OH NO... Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants'

[POM]

Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants' - RAIR


While it is understood that viruses mutate, causing variants, French Virologist and Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier contends that “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

 

[Manonthestreet]

Would not surprise me at all

 

[Dragonlady]

Would not surprise me at all

Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants' - RAIR


While it is understood that viruses mutate, causing variants, French Virologist and Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier contends that “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

If this is true, how did the variants come to exist before the vaccines?

 

[Burgermeister]

They have no idea what the long term effects of these vaccines are. A lot more variables with the mRNA approach than the old inject a deactivated virus routine.

 

[Resnic]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

 

[POM]

Would not surprise me at all

Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants' - RAIR


While it is understood that viruses mutate, causing variants, French Virologist and Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier contends that “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

If this is true, how did the variants come to exist before the vaccines?

ASK FAUCI AND THE WUHAN LAB

 

[munkle]

This is one of the now-vindicated scientists who last year said the virus was man-made, and was viciously attacked, Nobel Prize winner or not. Same with Dr. Judy Mikovits, who if you posted her here would get shunted to conspiracy theory. When do we stop listening to Fauci and FDA and listen to scientists who have lost everything for their love of truth? To warn us?

 

[munkle]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

 

[Dragonlady]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

Pray God deliver us from liars and fools such as yourself that keep posting shit about the virus and the vaccines.

 

[skookerasbil]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

Pray God deliver us from liars and fools such as yourself that keep posting shit about the virus and the vaccines.

Bennington stated, "In this world, there are two types of people......carnies and rubes. Dont be a rube"

Lady........100 million Americans think Fauci and his minions are full of sh*t.

 

[Papageorgio]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

Pray God deliver us from liars and fools such as yourself that keep posting shit about the virus and the vaccines.

Few months ago there was a group trying to shut down the lie that the virus came from a lab, now we are looking into the fact that the virus came from a lab.

When the virus first came out, we didn't need masks, then a couple months later, we needed masks.

What we do know is that we don't know. In 1918 & 1919 the Spanish flu killed millions and there was several waves. In all one third of the population or 500 million and 50 million people died, no vaccine was found until 1942 and not approved until 1946.
What was odd was the flu and deaths virtually disappeared after 1919. We hadn't attained herd immunity, we hadn't all become infected, it and it's variants just seemed to leave. Today that same H1N1 virus exists, it now kills 0.01% of all it infects.

That said, is they learned as they went and what they learned is they knew little to nothing. That is where we are today with Covid-19, we know little to nothing.

So don't be quick to rule in or rule out anything. The CDC is constantly changing and morphing their ideas. Remember 6ft? They had new studies they looked at CDC to Reconsider 6-Foot Student Spacing Guidelines in Response to New Studies

Then they came out with this: US CDC Updates Covid Guidelines on Airborne Transmission, Says Virus Can Spread Beyond 6 Ft

The Delta variant is growing in under vaccinated areas and the Gamma variant is growing in vaccinated areas and those that have been vaccinated.

Everyday we are learning, so to me, everything is on the table because no one can say what is going to happen, everyone is just guessing as we attain more information.

 

[Dragonlady]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

Pray God deliver us from liars and fools such as yourself that keep posting shit about the virus and the vaccines.

Few months ago there was a group trying to shut down the lie that the virus came from a lab, now we are looking into the fact that the virus came from a lab.

When the virus first came out, we didn't need masks, then a couple months later, we needed masks.

What we do know is that we don't know. In 1918 & 1919 the Spanish flu killed millions and there was several waves. In all one third of the population or 500 million and 50 million people died, no vaccine was found until 1942 and not approved until 1946.
What was odd was the flu and deaths virtually disappeared after 1919. We hadn't attained herd immunity, we hadn't all become infected, it and it's variants just seemed to leave. Today that same H1N1 virus exists, it now kills 0.01% of all it infects.

That said, is they learned as they went and what they learned is they knew little to nothing. That is where we are today with Covid-19, we know little to nothing.

So don't be quick to rule in or rule out anything. The CDC is constantly changing and morphing their ideas. Remember 6ft? They had new studies they looked at CDC to Reconsider 6-Foot Student Spacing Guidelines in Response to New Studies

Then they came out with this: US CDC Updates Covid Guidelines on Airborne Transmission, Says Virus Can Spread Beyond 6 Ft

The Delta variant is growing in under vaccinated areas and the Gamma variant is growing in vaccinated areas and those that have been vaccinated.

Everyday we are learning, so to me, everything is on the table because no one can say what is going to happen, everyone is just guessing as we attain more information.

So much disinformation, half truths and out right lies in your post, it’s pointless to go through them all.

But let’s be clear about one thing: The MNRA vaccines provide full protection against both the delta and the gamma variants. Stop spreading lies.

Vaccination, previous infection, protect against COVID-19 gamma/P.1 variant in animal model

In a new study using variant virus recovered from one of the original travelers, researchers in the US and Japan have found that vaccination with an mRNA vaccine induces antibody responses that would protect humans from infection with the gamma/P.1 variant.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[Papageorgio]

Of course it is. Even someone with a pedestrian knowledge of how a virus works know this. Nursing school students know this.

If a vaccine is introduced into a human host with the virus and by any numbers of means a virus survives the vaccine it will adapt to the vaccine and build its own immunity to it.

It's the reverse action of how a flu vaccine works. The reverse action is a flu vaccine is actually partially dead flu viruses, the body can easily defeat them being in a weakened state and thus the body configures itself to be able to defeat the virus at full strength. In this case we can strengthen a virus strain by it surviving the vaccine and it gets immunity against the vaccine.

That's why against a virus like say the general flu every year a new flu vaccine is used to target what they expect to be the most likely of strains.

covid vaccines will be an annual thing. I might take a year or so to get there but it will get there.

It's not a bombshell and doesn't require a prize winner to understand the very basic and simple mechanics of a viruses method of action.

All well and good in a natural progression except now they have thrown in mRNA X factor. May mean nothing. But we definitely don't know. Pray to God to deliver us with a miracle making the shot a dud.

Pray God deliver us from liars and fools such as yourself that keep posting shit about the virus and the vaccines.

Few months ago there was a group trying to shut down the lie that the virus came from a lab, now we are looking into the fact that the virus came from a lab.

When the virus first came out, we didn't need masks, then a couple months later, we needed masks.

What we do know is that we don't know. In 1918 & 1919 the Spanish flu killed millions and there was several waves. In all one third of the population or 500 million and 50 million people died, no vaccine was found until 1942 and not approved until 1946.
What was odd was the flu and deaths virtually disappeared after 1919. We hadn't attained herd immunity, we hadn't all become infected, it and it's variants just seemed to leave. Today that same H1N1 virus exists, it now kills 0.01% of all it infects.

That said, is they learned as they went and what they learned is they knew little to nothing. That is where we are today with Covid-19, we know little to nothing.

So don't be quick to rule in or rule out anything. The CDC is constantly changing and morphing their ideas. Remember 6ft? They had new studies they looked at CDC to Reconsider 6-Foot Student Spacing Guidelines in Response to New Studies

Then they came out with this: US CDC Updates Covid Guidelines on Airborne Transmission, Says Virus Can Spread Beyond 6 Ft

The Delta variant is growing in under vaccinated areas and the Gamma variant is growing in vaccinated areas and those that have been vaccinated.

Everyday we are learning, so to me, everything is on the table because no one can say what is going to happen, everyone is just guessing as we attain more information.

So much disinformation, half truths and out right lies in your post, it’s pointless to go through them all.

But let’s be clear about one thing: The MNRA vaccines provide full protection against both the delta and the gamma variants. Stop spreading lies.

Vaccination, previous infection, protect against COVID-19 gamma/P.1 variant in animal model

In a new study using variant virus recovered from one of the original travelers, researchers in the US and Japan have found that vaccination with an mRNA vaccine induces antibody responses that would protect humans from infection with the gamma/P.1 variant.

www.sciencedaily.com

On the Spanish flu or articles I have linked? Seems you will only believe what you want and are closed minded. You left wing nutters are intolerant, unless your government tells you what to think.

Thanks for proving what I said was correct.

 

[Dragonlady]

Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants' - RAIR


While it is understood that viruses mutate, causing variants, French Virologist and Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier contends that “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

Wow, that’s really fucking amazing! The vaccine created variants, even though there were already variants BEFORE they started testing the vaccines.

The strain which came into New York than the strain that came from China to the West Coast - before there were ANY vaccines at all.

Two of the variants came from countries where there were NO VACCINES - South Africa and Brazil. No vaccines were available in either country, nor was any testing done there.

Next stupid idea!!!!

 

[ninja007]

YEP

 

[ninja007]

YEP

 

[Turtlesoup]

Dragonlady It hasn't occured to you that the vaccines were being invented as the virus was being invented from the same wuhan lab?

 

[Turtlesoup]

CLARENCE_BIGSBY Basically we know,
1) that the vaccines wear off requiring boosters within months
2) That as the vaccines wear off, the virus (that the vaccines wasn't able to completely kill in the vaccinated body) is able to replicate more and more virus raising the viral load in the "vaccinated" that is immuned to the vaccines.
3) The "vaccinated" still have virus's that are more immuned to the vaccine and thusly become variants and spread easier.
4) In conclusion, the vaccines absolutely will lead to variants all over the place..The vaccinated will become petri dishes for these variants to develop and reproduce which inevitable spread as the viral loads shoot up.

You all want to know why Fauci and the others are telling the vaccinated to continue to wear masks? They are carriers for the new strains and thusly will be spreading them around.

 

[Dragonlady]

Dragonlady It hasn't occured to you that the vaccines were being invented as the virus was being invented from the same wuhan lab?

It hasn’t occurred to you that the vaccines were being developed in Germany, England, Russia and the United States. Or that the vaccines being used in the first world were all developed in the west starting in 2003 with the SARS outbreak.

Has it occurred to you that the information that you were spreading about the vaccine is coming directly from Russian and Chinese propaganda sites in an effort to undermine faith in the Western democracies?

Does it bother you in the slightest that the Republican Party has now adopted disinformation techniques and propaganda strategies developing in Russia under Stalin?

 

[Turtlesoup]

Dragonlady It occurs to me that you are a troll spreading propaganda.....nothing I have said comes from Russia or the CHINESE. Now, don't get me wrong---I have thought that you sounded like a chinese communist Troll, but your latest attempt is really very pathetic. My comment stands------pretty sure as the Chinese developed this bio chemical weapons called Covid, that they were also working on a vaccine to prevent their people from getting it. This is the logical thing for those playing with biochemical weapons to do------------and sorry to smear others pretending as they are the ones quoting Chinese/Russian propaganda is laughable coming from the resident sounding chinese troll.