Officer Who Shot Ashli Babbitt Revealing Identity in Interview

First, lemme confess....I'm a tad un-confident in this next commentary from my too often too independent avatar.
After all, since I last posted up in #705 there have been some really good posts with more gravitas than my stuff. So, a hat-tip where a hat-tip is earned....to poster 'Jim'H, to poster Woodwork, and poster Grump and Winco. Some good stuff in parts of their postings.

But still, all that has never stopped me from being petty and self-absorbed before.

So, let's scroll back up in the thread to post #706, by poster 'whale'.
He asserts the following in that post:

......there are lines our government isn't allowed to cross and what you have proposed is one of them." (emphasis by me)

OK, but.............
...but just exactly which uncrossable line did my avatar propose be crossed?
Am keenly interested, as sometimes my hired avatar is more independent than what I wish.

So, poster 'whale' which 'proposal' by my avatar concerns you?
And if can you quote him exactly, well, it will help in the disciplining.

Thanx in advance,
Chillicothe.
 
First, lemme confess....I'm a tad un-confident in this next commentary from my too often too independent avatar.
After all, since I last posted up in #705 there have been some really good posts with more gravitas than my stuff. So, a hat-tip where a hat-tip is earned....to poster 'Jim'H, to poster Woodwork, and poster Grump and Winco. Some good stuff in parts of their postings.

But still, all that has never stopped me from being petty and self-absorbed before.

So, let's scroll back up in the thread to post #706, by poster 'whale'.
He asserts the following in that post:


OK, but.............
...but just exactly which uncrossable line did my avatar propose be crossed?
Am keenly interested, as sometimes my hired avatar is more independent than what I wish.

So, poster 'whale' which 'proposal' by my avatar concerns you?
And if can you quote him exactly, well, it will help in the disciplining.

Thanx in advance,
Chillicothe.
I’m not going to bother looking up quotes. But the line is using deadly force for crowd control. The government has no right to kill its own citizens for protesting, it can’t even kill them out of hand for rioting.
 
"I’m not going to bother looking up quotes."
Ummm, poster 'whale'.....maybe you should look up quotes.

It may keep you from looking unprepared and irresponsible, and being someone who simply makes up merde' in order to say stuff.

Accordingly, whale, if you won't, don't, can't offer the board a quote, a link, a post number where that poor avatar of mine advocated that it's all good all the time to "use deadly force for crowd control"..... well, mon ami, let my avatar gently suggest of yours: "Do your friggin' homework, lest it makes one look dumb and lazy."

Just sayin'.
 
There would be zero illegals in there. As for gays and trans - very, very few. There are up to 6,600 US service personal who identify as trans (see link below). There are 1.4 million active. That is 0.47 per cent. Hardly 'many'. Barely meets the definitely of 'very few'.
How do you know they hate you? I think you need to modify the last part to 'They might hate me and you. I hate them'. That would be more accurate. And if you don't hate them, how dare you speak on their behalf. You have no idea who they hate and don't hate.


Yeah, ok.



If you serve honorably and on active duty with the U.S. Armed Forces during one of the wars or conflicts named below, the law allows you to apply for U.S. citizenship. You don't have to go through the usual step of applying for a green card first.

You must, however, enlist (sign up) while on U.S. territory, such as the Canal Zone, American Samoa, Swains Island, or a noncommercial U.S. ship.

The conflicts that qualify you for immediate U.S. citizenship include:

  • World War I (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)
  • World War II (September 1, 1939 to December 31, 1946)
  • the Korean hostilities (June 25, 1950 to July 1, 1955)
  • the Vietnam hostilities (February 28, 1961 to October 15, 1978)
  • the Persian Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to April 11, 1991)
  • "Operation Enduring Freedom" (otherwise known as the "War on Terrorism" or "Iraq Hostilities"), which began September 11, 2001 and will end by order of the U.S. President.
 
Yeah, ok.



If you serve honorably and on active duty with the U.S. Armed Forces during one of the wars or conflicts named below, the law allows you to apply for U.S. citizenship. You don't have to go through the usual step of applying for a green card first.

You must, however, enlist (sign up) while on U.S. territory, such as the Canal Zone, American Samoa, Swains Island, or a noncommercial U.S. ship.

The conflicts that qualify you for immediate U.S. citizenship include:

  • World War I (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)
  • World War II (September 1, 1939 to December 31, 1946)
  • the Korean hostilities (June 25, 1950 to July 1, 1955)
  • the Vietnam hostilities (February 28, 1961 to October 15, 1978)
  • the Persian Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to April 11, 1991)
  • "Operation Enduring Freedom" (otherwise known as the "War on Terrorism" or "Iraq Hostilities"), which began September 11, 2001 and will end by order of the U.S. President.
Semantics. If they serve, they get to stay. What's the beef?
 
Semantics. If they serve, they get to stay. What's the beef?
Don't change the subject. You said that there are no illegal aliens in the US Military. There are. The point is that the military is not made up with the same number of patriots that it was in the 70s and 80s. Today, it is significantly made up of woke Democrat voters who are, like you, trained in weapons and, to some degree, tactics.

People who make comments like "the right has all the guns" or other silly statements are going to wind up dead if there's ever a real fighting revolution.

The day may come when there is a real need for a fighting revolution. When that day comes, make no mistake; it will be a hard fight. Remember, though, that it's likely that neither side is defending the Constitution. Although the Declaration of Independence acknowledges that there are times when revolution is required, there are no provisions in our Constitution for creation or restoration of a government by revolution. If the right, or conservatives, were to engage in revolution against a leftist administration like the Biden one, then they, the right, can not assume power even if they win. They would be a completely illegitimate government and I would fight beside General Milley or even this guy against the conservatives with whom I otherwise agree because I will defend the Constitution to the death.

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Don't change the subject. You said that there are no illegal aliens in the US Military. There are. The point is that the military is not made up with the same number of patriots that it was in the 70s and 80s. Today, it is significantly made up of woke Democrat voters who are, like you, trained in weapons and, to some degree, tactics.

People who make comments like "the right has all the guns" or other silly statements are going to wind up dead if there's ever a real fighting revolution.

The day may come when there is a real need for a fighting revolution. When that day comes, make no mistake; it will be a hard fight. Remember, though, that it's likely that neither side is defending the Constitution. Although the Declaration of Independence acknowledges that there are times when revolution is required, there are no provisions in our Constitution for creation or restoration of a government by revolution. If the right, or conservatives, were to engage in revolution against a leftist administration like the Biden one, then they, the right, can not assume power even if they win. They would be a completely illegitimate government and I would fight beside General Milley or even this guy against the conservatives with whom I otherwise agree because I will defend the Constitution to the death.

Pretty-Gay-US-Soldier-84912.jpg
Surely when they sign up the swear allegiance to the flag. Also, hasn't that rule been around for decades - you can join the armed forces and get citizenship. Hardly new.

I haven't been trained in anything like that - well other than firearms training when I was a cop. But that was 30 years ago.
 
Surely when they sign up the swear allegiance to the flag. Also, hasn't that rule been around for decades - you can join the armed forces and get citizenship. Hardly new.

I haven't been trained in anything like that - well other than firearms training when I was a cop. But that was 30 years ago.

You're still changing the subject. I said the military isn't made up of as many conservatives as it was years ago - that there are illegal aliens and other groups known to be more leftists and Biden voters. To keep it on topic, the point is that you think the military vets are going to help win your fantasy revolution. Some will but many will not. And, in your fantasy revolution, the military will fight on the side of conservatives; that's another fantasy.

As I pointed out, the military is made up of a broader range of peop le. It's more "inclusive", to speak of it in woke terms. In reality terms, the military is made up of the products of our public schools and America's universities - the same places that produce Antifa and the 50+ percent of Americans voting for Biden. 40 or 50 years ago, they might have been on the side of the Constitution and at least conservative ideals. Today, they're on the side of General Milley - more concerned, as a whole, about white privilege than they are about protecting free speech or the 2nd Amendment. More concerned about wokism than defending the Constitution.

That's not to say that many would not fight to defend the Constitution or that many would not refuse to shoot our own people. But many would fight to defend socialism and many Americans in the military absolutely would shoot you and me to take our guns or to shut our mouths. Then, add in the foreign nationals in our military - both legal and illegal immigrants, foreigners enlisted in the US military from their home countries who know nothing of the United States before enlisting. They don't share our values and don't see us as their own people when it comes time to shoot. Then consider that their citizenship or permanent residency is based successful, honorable, completion of their service agreement, they're going to follow orders to kill you and me and never look back.

And they swear an oath to defend the Constitution, not the flag.

Lastly, to your diversion, I don't care if those who serve get citizenship; even those who are illegal immigrants who serve. What I do care about is that we let illegal immigrants serve at all. China could send a 100 thousand illegal immigrants across the border, Biden would take them all in the military, and we'd have our enemy deeply rooted behind our own lines.
 
You're still changing the subject. I said the military isn't made up of as many conservatives as it was years ago - that there are illegal aliens and other groups known to be more leftists and Biden voters. To keep it on topic, the point is that you think the military vets are going to help win your fantasy revolution. Some will but many will not. And, in your fantasy revolution, the military will fight on the side of conservatives; that's another fantasy.

As I pointed out, the military is made up of a broader range of peop le. It's more "inclusive", to speak of it in woke terms. In reality terms, the military is made up of the products of our public schools and America's universities - the same places that produce Antifa and the 50+ percent of Americans voting for Biden. 40 or 50 years ago, they might have been on the side of the Constitution and at least conservative ideals. Today, they're on the side of General Milley - more concerned, as a whole, about white privilege than they are about protecting free speech or the 2nd Amendment. More concerned about wokism than defending the Constitution.

That's not to say that many would not fight to defend the Constitution or that many would not refuse to shoot our own people. But many would fight to defend socialism and many Americans in the military absolutely would shoot you and me to take our guns or to shut our mouths. Then, add in the foreign nationals in our military - both legal and illegal immigrants, foreigners enlisted in the US military from their home countries who know nothing of the United States before enlisting. They don't share our values and don't see us as their own people when it comes time to shoot. Then consider that their citizenship or permanent residency is based successful, honorable, completion of their service agreement, they're going to follow orders to kill you and me and never look back.

And they swear an oath to defend the Constitution, not the flag.

Lastly, to your diversion, I don't care if those who serve get citizenship; even those who are illegal immigrants who serve. What I do care about is that we let illegal immigrants serve at all. China could send a 100 thousand illegal immigrants across the border, Biden would take them all in the military, and we'd have our enemy deeply rooted behind our own lines.
Only legal, documented immigrants are eligible for enlistment in the US military. Immigrants and Non-Citizens Serving in the US Military
 
Only legal, documented immigrants are eligible for enlistment in the US military. Immigrants and Non-Citizens Serving in the US Military
Really? You're going to quote "thebalancecareers" as your source? The DOD would disagree with them.

 
Really? You're going to quote "thebalancecareers" as your source? The DOD would disagree with them.

You're quoting msm--find a DOD source like this one--Prove you are U.S. citizen or permanent resident with a valid Green Card (officially known as a Permanent Resident Card). Army Eligibility Requirements and Waivers FAQ
or this one-- You must be a U.S. citizen or a resident alien.
There are more if you want to search. You're welcome for the education.
 
You're still changing the subject. I said the military isn't made up of as many conservatives as it was years ago - that there are illegal aliens and other groups known to be more leftists and Biden voters. To keep it on topic, the point is that you think the military vets are going to help win your fantasy revolution. Some will but many will not. And, in your fantasy revolution, the military will fight on the side of conservatives; that's another fantasy.

As I pointed out, the military is made up of a broader range of peop le. It's more "inclusive", to speak of it in woke terms. In reality terms, the military is made up of the products of our public schools and America's universities - the same places that produce Antifa and the 50+ percent of Americans voting for Biden. 40 or 50 years ago, they might have been on the side of the Constitution and at least conservative ideals. Today, they're on the side of General Milley - more concerned, as a whole, about white privilege than they are about protecting free speech or the 2nd Amendment. More concerned about wokism than defending the Constitution.

That's not to say that many would not fight to defend the Constitution or that many would not refuse to shoot our own people. But many would fight to defend socialism and many Americans in the military absolutely would shoot you and me to take our guns or to shut our mouths. Then, add in the foreign nationals in our military - both legal and illegal immigrants, foreigners enlisted in the US military from their home countries who know nothing of the United States before enlisting. They don't share our values and don't see us as their own people when it comes time to shoot. Then consider that their citizenship or permanent residency is based successful, honorable, completion of their service agreement, they're going to follow orders to kill you and me and never look back.

And they swear an oath to defend the Constitution, not the flag.

Lastly, to your diversion, I don't care if those who serve get citizenship; even those who are illegal immigrants who serve. What I do care about is that we let illegal immigrants serve at all. China could send a 100 thousand illegal immigrants across the border, Biden would take them all in the military, and we'd have our enemy deeply rooted behind our own lines.
Not off topic. I have taken aspects of your post(s) and queried them. Meh, dunno if the armed forces are more or less conservative these days. j

Where do you think I have said I want a revolution? Why would I want a revolution?

Your third paragraph is nothing by generic waffle, with nothing to back it up but your opinion. Zero facts.

As for you last paragraph - hyperbole much?
 

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