Obama: Teach 'em While They're Young

[PoliticalChic]

Big Hollywood has already posted a couple disturbing videos of young school children singing/speaking praises to President Obama, but when eleven more dropped in our email box it came as quite a shock. What seemed like an aberration now appears to be a troubling pattern.

Maybe “epidemic” is a better word.

Each one of the videos below is creepier than the last because the further down you go, the younger the children — brace yourself for kindergartners – except for the last and most disturbing video, which you have to see to believe.

Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

 

[Article 15]

As you should already know the first "incident" happened like 9 months ago and the lyrics were sent to the parents first, who all approved of them, and allowed their kids to participate. It wasn't until later when FOX News got a hold of it and turned it into a big deal that it became an issue.

And unless you can prove that Obama is directly responsible for your new list of possible indoctrinating events ...



(besides the nutty right wingers)

 

[PoliticalChic]

As you should already know the first "incident" happened like 9 months ago and the lyrics were sent to the parents first, who all approved of them, and allowed their kids to participate. It wasn't until later when FOX News got a hold of it and turned it into a big deal that it became an issue.

And unless you can prove that Obama is directly responsible for your new list of possible indoctrinating events ...



(besides the nutty right wingers)

"...turned it into a big deal that it became an issue."

Do I understand that you don't think it is a big deal?

Had there been right wing 'teachers' who felt it was their duty, or even appropriate, to have students learn adorations to President Bush, or better yet, President Nixon, whether told to do so, or merely believing that it would met with a pat on the head from the top, you-as a parent- would not find it objectionable?

I've seen you post. You're more level headed than that.

Now if you believe that the title implied a direct from the President, link, it did not.

It implied a milieu, a social setting in which something occurs or develops, that has enveloped our country since the current administration took office.

Should you require an example,

"EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda.."
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda - Blogrunner

It ain't right, bro.

 

[California Girl]

As you should already know the first "incident" happened like 9 months ago and the lyrics were sent to the parents first, who all approved of them, and allowed their kids to participate. It wasn't until later when FOX News got a hold of it and turned it into a big deal that it became an issue.

And unless you can prove that Obama is directly responsible for your new list of possible indoctrinating events ...



(besides the nutty right wingers)

"...turned it into a big deal that it became an issue."

Do I understand that you don't think it is a big deal?

Had there been right wing 'teachers' who felt it was their duty, or even appropriate, to have students learn adorations to President Bush, or better yet, President Nixon, whether told to do so, or merely believing that it would met with a pat on the head from the top, you-as a parent- would not find it objectionable?

I've seen you post. You're more level headed than that.

Now if you believe that the title implied a direct from the President, link, it did not.

It implied a milieu, a social setting in which something occurs or deveops, that has enveloped our country since the current administration took office.

Should you require an example,

"EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda.."
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda - Blogrunner

It ain't right, bro.

Interesting this NEA thing.... didn't they just get another £12m in government funding? Taxpayers money to push propoganda? Interesting use of public funds.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

As you should already know the first "incident" happened like 9 months ago and the lyrics were sent to the parents first, who all approved of them, and allowed their kids to participate. It wasn't until later when FOX News got a hold of it and turned it into a big deal that it became an issue.

And unless you can prove that Obama is directly responsible for your new list of possible indoctrinating events ...



(besides the nutty right wingers)

"...turned it into a big deal that it became an issue."

Do I understand that you don't think it is a big deal?

Had there been right wing 'teachers' who felt it was their duty, or even appropriate, to have students learn adorations to President Bush, or better yet, President Nixon, whether told to do so, or merely believing that it would met with a pat on the head from the top, you-as a parent- would not find it objectionable?

I've seen you post. You're more level headed than that.

Now if you believe that the title implied a direct from the President, link, it did not.

It implied a milieu, a social setting in which something occurs or deveops, that has enveloped our country since the current administration took office.

Should you require an example,

"EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda.."
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda - Blogrunner

It ain't right, bro.

That is an excellent point PoliticalChic and it is a disturbing pattern amoungst our public education system.

If they sang that crap about bush or clinton or reagan I would have been just as shocked.

Imagine if they actually were singing the praise jesus song that they used without changing the lyrics....that would be considered an indoctrination into christianity by many here on the forum.

 

[Article 15]

You know, back when the first video came out I jumped in the thread and that this crosses the line, etc. Then it turned out that the parents had read the lyrics and gave their go ahead for the kids to participate and it was all a bunch of faux outrage drummed up by FOX News.

So forgive me if I don't take this latest, "ZOMG they're indoctrinating the children," thread seriously.

And don't treat me like I'm naive ... putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him.

It's more nonsense trying to drum up fear about the administration and it goes right along with the wing nut theme that Obama is a dictator.

But you know what? If in 4 or 8 years when the time comes for Barack to leave and we don't have a smooth transition of power like we've had every time since our nations birth I will be one of the first to hit DC and make sure he's forced out.

 

[Article 15]

As you should already know the first "incident" happened like 9 months ago and the lyrics were sent to the parents first, who all approved of them, and allowed their kids to participate. It wasn't until later when FOX News got a hold of it and turned it into a big deal that it became an issue.

And unless you can prove that Obama is directly responsible for your new list of possible indoctrinating events ...



(besides the nutty right wingers)

"...turned it into a big deal that it became an issue."

Do I understand that you don't think it is a big deal?

Had there been right wing 'teachers' who felt it was their duty, or even appropriate, to have students learn adorations to President Bush, or better yet, President Nixon, whether told to do so, or merely believing that it would met with a pat on the head from the top, you-as a parent- would not find it objectionable?

I've seen you post. You're more level headed than that.

Now if you believe that the title implied a direct from the President, link, it did not.

It implied a milieu, a social setting in which something occurs or deveops, that has enveloped our country since the current administration took office.

Should you require an example,

"EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda.."
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda - Blogrunner

It ain't right, bro.

That is an excellent point PoliticalChic and it is a disturbing pattern amoungst our public education system.

If they sang that crap about bush or clinton or reagan I would have been just as shocked.

Imagine if they actually were singing the praise jesus song that they used without changing the lyrics....that would be considered an indoctrination into christianity by many here on the forum.

The did sing that crap about BOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

 

[shane]

Good thought Political chic,
This is a very big problem in public schools these days. Dispite belief by article 15 this is much bigger than he thinks. We can't be pushing these views, ideas, or songs on the youth of America. I have seen first hand the use of the classroom to pass political ideology and its not right. Let our kids learn about it when they are ready, and they can make their own formed opinion. None of this brainwashing techniques that are going on, wheather you know your doing it or not. And the sad fact is most of this nonesense is coming from the liberals.. Not ever did i see people singing out how amazing Bush was...
Just a thought.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You know, back when the first video came out I jumped in the thread and that this crosses the line, etc. Then it turned out that the parents had read the lyrics and gave their go ahead for the kids to participate and it was all a bunch of faux outrage drummed up by FOX News.

So forgive me if I don't take this latest, "ZOMG they're indoctrinating the children," thread seriously.

And don't treat me like I'm naive ... putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him.

It's more nonsense trying to drum up fear about the administration and it goes right along with the wing nut theme that Obama is a dictator.

But you know what? If in 4 or 8 years when the time comes for Barack to leave and we don't have a smooth transition of power like we've had every time since our nations birth I will be one of the first to hit DC and make sure he's forced out.

" putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him. "

Do you want to re-read what you wrote: of course it's happening because of him.

There is in this administration a new level, if not kind, of gutter-level thugginess, and if you do not see how it encourages over the bounds behavior in all areas, then I guess you are naive.

"This is the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet beg[ins] to heal. "
-an excerpt from Obama's victory speech

"In late August, the Obama campaign emailed an "Obama Action Wire" to thousands of supporters and liberal activists exhorting them to harass the offices of Chicago's WGN radio by flooding the station with angry phone calls and emails. Activists screamed insults to call-in screeners. "
The American Spectator : Obama's Enemies List


And-
"After the Democratic convention, Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer warned TV stations against airing a TV ad that was embarrassing to Barack Obama. The commercial focused on the longtime relationship between Obama and Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Bauer sent letters to the Justice Department imploring the agency to pursue criminal action against those behind the ads. It was not lost on anyone at that time that Bauer was considered a candidate to be the next U.S. Attorney-General."

And-
"A few weeks later, state prosecutors and top sheriffs in Missouri who were prominent Obama supporters responded to a chilling Obama campaign request. They styled themselves as a "truth squad" and threatened to prosecute anyone including media outlets that printed or broadcasted material they deemed to be inaccurate about the Illinois Senator. "


And-
"Democratic Ohio state officials scoured government data bases and confidential records in an effort to find embarrassing information on "Joe the Plumber" (e.g., he is divorced) that quickly found its way into the press. "

And-
"On Election Day, Senator Chuck Schumer likened conservative talk radio to pornography and argued it should be regulated. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi endorsed speech restrictions more than once during the election season. Senators Harry Reid, Dick Durbin and John Kerry have also advocated various limits to political speech. Senator Debbie Stabenow assured a liberal radio talk show host that regulating conservative speech is imminent."

Or do you agree with this:
" The public looks for leaders who are large-minded rather than petty and peevish, who engage in public arguments rather than in personal attacks, who want to solve problems rather than settle scores. Tone and approach are important not simply for the aesthetics of politics but also because of what they reveal about a person's predisposition and attitude, temperament and spirit.

President Obama's war on Fox News -- being carried out by him and his top aides -- is so unwise. One of the attractions of Obama during the election -- one of his attractions to me, who wrote favorably about him several times -- was his tone and countenance, his apparent interest in a serious engagement with issues, and his professed allergy to politics practiced by those who are bitter and brittle. We should, he said, "resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long." He went on to say, "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." All impressive and high-minded sentiments. And all, apparently, a ruse."
Obama's Enemies List

You must, of course, see the pattern endorsed, promulgated by this administrartion, and if you decline to condemn it, then as Theodore Roosevelt said of William McKinley, you have “no more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
__________________
People are most conservative on issues that they know most about. --Ann Coulter

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

"...turned it into a big deal that it became an issue."

Do I understand that you don't think it is a big deal?

Had there been right wing 'teachers' who felt it was their duty, or even appropriate, to have students learn adorations to President Bush, or better yet, President Nixon, whether told to do so, or merely believing that it would met with a pat on the head from the top, you-as a parent- would not find it objectionable?

I've seen you post. You're more level headed than that.

Now if you believe that the title implied a direct from the President, link, it did not.

It implied a milieu, a social setting in which something occurs or deveops, that has enveloped our country since the current administration took office.

Should you require an example,

"EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda.."
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda - Blogrunner

It ain't right, bro.

That is an excellent point PoliticalChic and it is a disturbing pattern amoungst our public education system.

If they sang that crap about bush or clinton or reagan I would have been just as shocked.

Imagine if they actually were singing the praise jesus song that they used without changing the lyrics....that would be considered an indoctrination into christianity by many here on the forum.

The did sing that crap about BOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

They did that in a public school? Thats freaking scary shit right there.

 

[Article 15]

That is an excellent point PoliticalChic and it is a disturbing pattern amoungst our public education system.

If they sang that crap about bush or clinton or reagan I would have been just as shocked.

Imagine if they actually were singing the praise jesus song that they used without changing the lyrics....that would be considered an indoctrination into christianity by many here on the forum.

The did sing that crap about BOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

They did that in a public school? Thats freaking scary shit right there.

They did it at the site of a national disaster singing praise for Bush while Brownie was doing a "heckuva job."

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The did sing that crap about BOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

They did that in a public school? Thats freaking scary shit right there.

They did it at the site of a national disaster singing praise for Bush while Brownie was doing a "heckuva job."

hmmmm....i'm not remembering that instance right now but it is seeming less scary to me if it wasn't a bunch of public schoolkids singing his praises. Typing "Sing Praises To Bush National Disater Site" into google.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

They did that in a public school? Thats freaking scary shit right there.

They did it at the site of a national disaster singing praise for Bush while Brownie was doing a "heckuva job."

hmmmm....i'm not remembering that instance right now but it is seeming less scary to me if it wasn't a bunch of public schoolkids singing his praises. Typing "Sing Praises To Bush National Disater Site" into google.

is this it? Think Progress » ‘Katrina Kids’ Sing to Laura Bush: ‘Congress, Bush and FEMA…Have Come to Rebuild Us’

That is a disturbing song in the link

 

[Article 15]

You know, back when the first video came out I jumped in the thread and that this crosses the line, etc. Then it turned out that the parents had read the lyrics and gave their go ahead for the kids to participate and it was all a bunch of faux outrage drummed up by FOX News.

So forgive me if I don't take this latest, "ZOMG they're indoctrinating the children," thread seriously.

And don't treat me like I'm naive ... putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him.

It's more nonsense trying to drum up fear about the administration and it goes right along with the wing nut theme that Obama is a dictator.

But you know what? If in 4 or 8 years when the time comes for Barack to leave and we don't have a smooth transition of power like we've had every time since our nations birth I will be one of the first to hit DC and make sure he's forced out.

" putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him. "

Do you want to re-read what you wrote: of course it's happening because of him.

There is in this administration a new level, if not kind, of gutter-level thugginess, and if you do not see how it encourages over the bounds behavior in all areas, then I guess you are naive.

"This is the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet beg[ins] to heal. "
-an excerpt from Obama's victory speech

"In late August, the Obama campaign emailed an "Obama Action Wire" to thousands of supporters and liberal activists exhorting them to harass the offices of Chicago's WGN radio by flooding the station with angry phone calls and emails. Activists screamed insults to call-in screeners. "
The American Spectator : Obama's Enemies List


And-
"After the Democratic convention, Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer warned TV stations against airing a TV ad that was embarrassing to Barack Obama. The commercial focused on the longtime relationship between Obama and Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Bauer sent letters to the Justice Department imploring the agency to pursue criminal action against those behind the ads. It was not lost on anyone at that time that Bauer was considered a candidate to be the next U.S. Attorney-General."

And-
"A few weeks later, state prosecutors and top sheriffs in Missouri who were prominent Obama supporters responded to a chilling Obama campaign request. They styled themselves as a "truth squad" and threatened to prosecute anyone including media outlets that printed or broadcasted material they deemed to be inaccurate about the Illinois Senator. "


And-
"Democratic Ohio state officials scoured government data bases and confidential records in an effort to find embarrassing information on "Joe the Plumber" (e.g., he is divorced) that quickly found its way into the press. "

And-
"On Election Day, Senator Chuck Schumer likened conservative talk radio to pornography and argued it should be regulated. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi endorsed speech restrictions more than once during the election season. Senators Harry Reid, Dick Durbin and John Kerry have also advocated various limits to political speech. Senator Debbie Stabenow assured a liberal radio talk show host that regulating conservative speech is imminent."

Or do you agree with this:
" The public looks for leaders who are large-minded rather than petty and peevish, who engage in public arguments rather than in personal attacks, who want to solve problems rather than settle scores. Tone and approach are important not simply for the aesthetics of politics but also because of what they reveal about a person's predisposition and attitude, temperament and spirit.

President Obama's war on Fox News -- being carried out by him and his top aides -- is so unwise. One of the attractions of Obama during the election -- one of his attractions to me, who wrote favorably about him several times -- was his tone and countenance, his apparent interest in a serious engagement with issues, and his professed allergy to politics practiced by those who are bitter and brittle. We should, he said, "resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long." He went on to say, "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." All impressive and high-minded sentiments. And all, apparently, a ruse."
Obama's Enemies List

You must, of course, see the pattern endorsed, promulgated by this administrartion, and if you decline to condemn it, then as Theodore Roosevelt said of William McKinley, you have “no more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
__________________
People are most conservative on issues that they know most about. --Ann Coulter

In most cases I see a candidate doing what he can to combat smear tactics. Is it dirty? Yes but so were the smears.

I think the "War on FOX" is foolish and only serves to further empower FOX but it is FAR from the first time an administration has been openly combative with the media.

So in summary, no, I'm not concerned.

 

[Article 15]

They did it at the site of a national disaster singing praise for Bush while Brownie was doing a "heckuva job."

hmmmm....i'm not remembering that instance right now but it is seeming less scary to me if it wasn't a bunch of public schoolkids singing his praises. Typing "Sing Praises To Bush National Disater Site" into google.

is this it? Think Progress » ‘Katrina Kids’ Sing to Laura Bush: ‘Congress, Bush and FEMA…Have Come to Rebuild Us’

That is a disturbing song in the link

Yes, that's it.

And until the full story comes out on what PC is reporting in the OP I'm highly skeptical of it as last time it turned out to be completely benign and done with parental consent.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

hmmmm....i'm not remembering that instance right now but it is seeming less scary to me if it wasn't a bunch of public schoolkids singing his praises. Typing "Sing Praises To Bush National Disater Site" into google.

is this it? Think Progress » ‘Katrina Kids’ Sing to Laura Bush: ‘Congress, Bush and FEMA…Have Come to Rebuild Us’

That is a disturbing song in the link

Yes, that's it.

And until the full story comes out on what PC is reporting in the OP I'm highly skeptical of it as last time it turned out to be completely benign and done with parental consent.

Those kids went to the W.H. to sing that to laura with their parents permission too. So I guess that Bush song was benign to you also?

I find both instances disturbing even if the Bush Singers and the Obama Singers had parental consent.

 

[Article 15]

is this it? Think Progress » ‘Katrina Kids’ Sing to Laura Bush: ‘Congress, Bush and FEMA…Have Come to Rebuild Us’

That is a disturbing song in the link

Yes, that's it.

And until the full story comes out on what PC is reporting in the OP I'm highly skeptical of it as last time it turned out to be completely benign and done with parental consent.

Those kids went to the W.H. to sing that to laura with their parents permission too. So I guess that Bush song was benign to you also?

I find both instances disturbing even if the Bush Singers and the Obama Singers had parental consent.

Yes. Personally, I don't care who sings what song about the POTUS. When I go to the voting booth the last thing that's on my mind is a song that I sang in first grade.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Yes, that's it.

And until the full story comes out on what PC is reporting in the OP I'm highly skeptical of it as last time it turned out to be completely benign and done with parental consent.

Those kids went to the W.H. to sing that to laura with their parents permission too. So I guess that Bush song was benign to you also?

I find both instances disturbing even if the Bush Singers and the Obama Singers had parental consent.

Yes. Personally, I don't care who sings what song about the POTUS. When I go to the voting booth the last thing that's on my mind is a song that I sang in first grade.

Good point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You know, back when the first video came out I jumped in the thread and that this crosses the line, etc. Then it turned out that the parents had read the lyrics and gave their go ahead for the kids to participate and it was all a bunch of faux outrage drummed up by FOX News.

So forgive me if I don't take this latest, "ZOMG they're indoctrinating the children," thread seriously.

And don't treat me like I'm naive ... putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him.

It's more nonsense trying to drum up fear about the administration and it goes right along with the wing nut theme that Obama is a dictator.

But you know what? If in 4 or 8 years when the time comes for Barack to leave and we don't have a smooth transition of power like we've had every time since our nations birth I will be one of the first to hit DC and make sure he's forced out.

" putting Obama in the thread title wasn't an accident and it implies that this happening because of him. "

Do you want to re-read what you wrote: of course it's happening because of him.

There is in this administration a new level, if not kind, of gutter-level thugginess, and if you do not see how it encourages over the bounds behavior in all areas, then I guess you are naive.

"This is the moment when the rise of the oceans begin to slow and our planet beg[ins] to heal. "
-an excerpt from Obama's victory speech

"In late August, the Obama campaign emailed an "Obama Action Wire" to thousands of supporters and liberal activists exhorting them to harass the offices of Chicago's WGN radio by flooding the station with angry phone calls and emails. Activists screamed insults to call-in screeners. "
The American Spectator : Obama's Enemies List


And-
"After the Democratic convention, Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer warned TV stations against airing a TV ad that was embarrassing to Barack Obama. The commercial focused on the longtime relationship between Obama and Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Bauer sent letters to the Justice Department imploring the agency to pursue criminal action against those behind the ads. It was not lost on anyone at that time that Bauer was considered a candidate to be the next U.S. Attorney-General."

And-
"A few weeks later, state prosecutors and top sheriffs in Missouri who were prominent Obama supporters responded to a chilling Obama campaign request. They styled themselves as a "truth squad" and threatened to prosecute anyone including media outlets that printed or broadcasted material they deemed to be inaccurate about the Illinois Senator. "


And-
"Democratic Ohio state officials scoured government data bases and confidential records in an effort to find embarrassing information on "Joe the Plumber" (e.g., he is divorced) that quickly found its way into the press. "

And-
"On Election Day, Senator Chuck Schumer likened conservative talk radio to pornography and argued it should be regulated. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi endorsed speech restrictions more than once during the election season. Senators Harry Reid, Dick Durbin and John Kerry have also advocated various limits to political speech. Senator Debbie Stabenow assured a liberal radio talk show host that regulating conservative speech is imminent."

Or do you agree with this:
" The public looks for leaders who are large-minded rather than petty and peevish, who engage in public arguments rather than in personal attacks, who want to solve problems rather than settle scores. Tone and approach are important not simply for the aesthetics of politics but also because of what they reveal about a person's predisposition and attitude, temperament and spirit.

President Obama's war on Fox News -- being carried out by him and his top aides -- is so unwise. One of the attractions of Obama during the election -- one of his attractions to me, who wrote favorably about him several times -- was his tone and countenance, his apparent interest in a serious engagement with issues, and his professed allergy to politics practiced by those who are bitter and brittle. We should, he said, "resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long." He went on to say, "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." All impressive and high-minded sentiments. And all, apparently, a ruse."
Obama's Enemies List

You must, of course, see the pattern endorsed, promulgated by this administrartion, and if you decline to condemn it, then as Theodore Roosevelt said of William McKinley, you have “no more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
__________________
People are most conservative on issues that they know most about. --Ann Coulter

In most cases I see a candidate doing what he can to combat smear tactics. Is it dirty? Yes but so were the smears.

I think the "War on FOX" is foolish and only serves to further empower FOX but it is FAR from the first time an administration has been openly combative with the media.

So in summary, no, I'm not concerned.

That will be all, Eclair 15.

 

[Article 15]

No problem, douche.