Obama proposes more executive actions on guns

[blackhawk]

Adam Lanza was mentally disturbed and got his guns from his mothers house not by buying them.

His mother should have been warned that guns and her son were not a good mix. She was already afraid of him.....having guns nearby was not wise

Probably so when someone is mentally disturbed they will find a way to carry out their crazy plans the only way I see to really stop someone like this is to be able to have them involuntarily committed which I don't see happening.

 

[rightwinger]

Adam Lanza was mentally disturbed and got his guns from his mothers house not by buying them.

His mother should have been warned that guns and her son were not a good mix. She was already afraid of him.....having guns nearby was not wise

Probably so when someone is mentally disturbed they will find a way to carry out their crazy plans the only way I see to really stop someone like this is to be able to have them involuntarily committed which I don't see happening.

My brother has a neighbor who adopted a daughter from Russia with "issues"

They are afraid to even keep knives in the house

 

[SwimExpert]

His mother should have been warned that guns and her son were not a good mix. She was already afraid of him.....having guns nearby was not wise

Probably so when someone is mentally disturbed they will find a way to carry out their crazy plans the only way I see to really stop someone like this is to be able to have them involuntarily committed which I don't see happening.

My brother has a neighbor who adopted a daughter from Russia with "issues"

They are afraid to even keep knives in the house

Please define "issues."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

White House announces two new 'executive actions' on guns - First Read


The Obama administration is proposing two more executive actions that it says will help prevent individuals who are prohibited from having a gun for mental health reasons from obtaining a firearm.
The Department of Justice, arguing that current federal law contains terminology about mental health issues that is too vague, *proposed a regulation that would clarify who is ineligible to possess a firearm for specific situations related to mental health, like commitment to a mental institution. “In addition to providing general guidance on federal law, these clarifications will help states determine what information should be made accessible to the federal background check system, which will, in turn, strengthen the system's reliability and effectiveness,” the administration said in a fact sheet distributed to reporters.
The second executive action, proposed by the Department of Health and Human Services, would allow some medical organizations more leeway to report “limited information necessary to help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands” to the federal background check system. “The proposed rule will not change the fact that seeking help for mental health problems or getting treatment does not make someone legally prohibited from having a firearm,” the White House added.

Fuck you, Barry

 

[Intense]

It's a start.

Let's see if it can help keep guns out of the hands of crazies and lets see how hard the NRA fights to keep guns in he hands of homicidal maniacs

NRA has historically been Law and Order. You know that, right?

 

[blackhawk]

His mother should have been warned that guns and her son were not a good mix. She was already afraid of him.....having guns nearby was not wise

Probably so when someone is mentally disturbed they will find a way to carry out their crazy plans the only way I see to really stop someone like this is to be able to have them involuntarily committed which I don't see happening.

My brother has a neighbor who adopted a daughter from Russia with "issues"

They are afraid to even keep knives in the house

That's disturbing.

 

[Intense]

His mother should have been warned that guns and her son were not a good mix. She was already afraid of him.....having guns nearby was not wise

Probably so when someone is mentally disturbed they will find a way to carry out their crazy plans the only way I see to really stop someone like this is to be able to have them involuntarily committed which I don't see happening.

My brother has a neighbor who adopted a daughter from Russia with "issues"

They are afraid to even keep knives in the house

Sorry to hear. Hopefully, they will work on that. Anything high risk like that, anything dangerous should be locked up securely.

 

[rightwinger]

It's a start.

Let's see if it can help keep guns out of the hands of crazies and lets see how hard the NRA fights to keep guns in he hands of homicidal maniacs

NRA has historically been Law and Order. You know that, right?

That was before they learned there was more money to be made by riling up the gun nuts

 

[SwimExpert]

Still not willing to define your grotesquely vague terms "crazies" and "issues" I see. This is quite disgusting. In the 50s it was blacks. In the 90s it was gays. In the 21st century, it's mental health. People just love to hate, I guess.

 

[1776]

I have no problem with a Federal database on crazy people being banned from guns, but the database needs to be created by mental health professionals not liberals in DC choosing people like they targeted the Tea Party with the IRS.

Nobody can trust the US GOV because of liberals being evil.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Absurd. Most gun crime is committed by blacks and inner city gang bangers. Let govt ban guns from that criminal demographic and put an end to progressives misguided , clueless whimpers regarding gun legislation....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The law is clear and an executive order can not make new law. In order for a mental defect to prevent ownership one must be ADJUDGED mentally incompetent by Competent authority, meaning a Judge. So unless they plan to flood the Local mental health authorities with claims this will do nothing.

 

[Immanuel]

Obviously, this is just another attempt by the Obama Administration to skirt the laws of the land and the will of the people.

Immie

 

[M14 Shooter]

I have no problem with a Federal database on crazy people being banned from guns, but the database needs to be created by mental health professionals not liberals in DC choosing people like they targeted the Tea Party with the IRS.

People adjudicated mentally unfit and therefore legally unable to own a gun are public record.
All you need is someone to collect and compile those records..

 

[Kosh]

Being far left is being mentally unstable so does that mean that Obama will ban guns for all his loyal far left followers?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

White House announces two new 'executive actions' on guns - First Read


The Obama administration is proposing two more executive actions that it says will help prevent individuals who are prohibited from having a gun for mental health reasons from obtaining a firearm.
The Department of Justice, arguing that current federal law contains terminology about mental health issues that is too vague, *proposed a regulation that would clarify who is ineligible to possess a firearm for specific situations related to mental health, like commitment to a mental institution. “In addition to providing general guidance on federal law, these clarifications will help states determine what information should be made accessible to the federal background check system, which will, in turn, strengthen the system's reliability and effectiveness,” the administration said in a fact sheet distributed to reporters.
The second executive action, proposed by the Department of Health and Human Services, would allow some medical organizations more leeway to report “limited information necessary to help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands” to the federal background check system. “The proposed rule will not change the fact that seeking help for mental health problems or getting treatment does not make someone legally prohibited from having a firearm,” the White House added.

There’s nothing new or different here, where it’s perfectly appropriate for a given administration to interpret Federal law as it sees fit, and implement that law accordingly. Also unchanged is the right of gun owners to due process, and to file suit in Federal court should a gun owner perceive his rights as enshrined in the Second Amendment have been violated.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Absurd. Most gun crime is committed by blacks and inner city gang bangers. Let govt ban guns from that criminal demographic and put an end to progressives misguided , clueless whimpers regarding gun legislation....

True,

but that is a issue of the family that the left can't admit to.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Being far left is being mentally unstable so does that mean that Obama will ban guns for all his loyal far left followers?

Being for a strong nws and nasa doesn't make you unstable. Makes you pretty damn smart On the other hand hating humanity and wanting us to stop eating meat may be a sign pointing to just that.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It's a start.

Let's see if it can help keep guns out of the hands of crazies and lets see how hard the NRA fights to keep guns in he hands of homicidal maniacs

NRA has historically been Law and Order. You know that, right?

That was before they learned there was more money to be made by riling up the gun nuts

Actually it's Obama's idiot crusade against American freedom that has sold more guns and added more members to the NRA than any organization has or ever has or could. On this issue he and you are your own worst enemies and are just too stupid to understand it.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I believe Obama should focus on the family and the importance of a strong father. Guns like knifes are just tools.