Obama makes it official: U.S. planning for full Afghan withdrawal

[High_Gravity]

Obama makes it official: U.S. planning for full Afghan withdrawal

Make it so baby!

After giving him the silent treatment for eight months, President Barack Obama on Tuesday called Afghan President Hamid Karzai. The message? A blunt warning that all U.S. troops will leave his war-torn country by 2015 unless Karzai or his successor sign a bilateral security agreement (BSA) with the United States.

The president had not spoken to Karzai since a June 25, 2013, video conference, and the two had had no contact since a Nov. 21, 2013, letter from Washington to Kabul.

Obama has said repeatedly that he hopes to leave a residual force of some 8,000-12,000 U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan to train local security forces and target extremists after most combat forces depart in 2014. But U.S. officials had warned that Obama would pull all American troops absent a BSA that gives American and allied forces immunity from local prosecution.

Karzai refused, saying his successor should be the one to make that commitment. He continued to say no even after Afghanistan’s “loya jirga” assembly of elders approved the agreement.

On Tuesday, Obama bluntly delivered that warning to Karzai himself, according to a White House statement on the call.

Obama told Karzai that he has “asked the Pentagon to ensure that it has adequate plans in place to accomplish an orderly withdrawal by the end of the year should the United States not keep any troops in Afghanistan after 2014.”

“Going after the remnants of core Al Qaeda could be in the interests of the United States and Afghanistan,” the White House readout continued. “Therefore, we will leave open the possibility of concluding a BSA with Afghanistan later this year.”

 

[TheOldSchool]

It's about damn time

 

[NoNukes]

Good for him, bring out soldiers home.

 

[High_Gravity]

We've been in that country almost 13 years, sure the war was neglected, pushed to the back pages and just mis managed for years but I just think we've done all we can, you can only win so many hearts and minds. Bring our men and women home.

 

[GISMYS]

ANOTHER "CUT AND RUN"!! The lives of our troops wasted in Iraq and Afgan. Terriorists allowed to win,they will regroup now and try for another 9/11 then we must start all over again=CLUELESS!!! CLUELESS,thanks to our clueless obama!!!

 

[Mr Natural]

As soon as we leave, that country is going to descend into chaos whether it's now or 100 years from now.

So it may as well be now.

 

[Stephanie]

It's already in Chaos thanks to Obama, Kerry and Hillary

All our sacrifices for their democracy wasted

 

[TheOldSchool]

ANOTHER "CUT AND RUN"!! The lives of our troops wasted in Iraq and Afgan.

 

[High_Gravity]

ANOTHER "CUT AND RUN"!! The lives of our troops wasted in Iraq and Afgan. Terriorists allowed to win,they will regroup now and try for another 9/11 then we must start all over again=CLUELESS!!! CLUELESS,thanks to our clueless obama!!!

Why don't you enlist and go over there and straighten them out tough guy? you arm chair generals who have never served a day in their life who want us to stay over there make me sick.

 

[GISMYS]

As soon as we leave, that country is going to descend into chaos whether it's now or 100 years from now.

So it may as well be now.

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

 

[Mr Natural]

As soon as we leave, that country is going to descend into chaos whether it's now or 100 years from now.

So it may as well be now.

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

So we should stay there indefinitely?

 

[GISMYS]

As soon as we leave, that country is going to descend into chaos whether it's now or 100 years from now.

So it may as well be now.

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

So we should stay there indefinitely?

How many more 9/11 attacks will it take??? the next attack may be a nuke or chemical or germ attack. we should fight terrorists on their homeland not ours!!! think!

 

[JakeStarkey]

GISMYS and the neo-cons of the left to the right argue that we cannot leave because of our investment in lives lost and treasure expended.

Theirs is the zero sum loss defense: let's keep on wasting lives and money though we can never achieve our goals in Afghanistan. Or Iraq for that matter.

 

[Mr Natural]

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

So we should stay there indefinitely?

How many more 9/11 attacks will it take??? the next attack may be a nuke or chemical or germ attack. we should fight terrorists on their homeland not ours!!! think!

Well, if you feel that strongly about the mission, why don't you sign up and go tough guy.

 

[High_Gravity]

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

So we should stay there indefinitely?

How many more 9/11 attacks will it take??? the next attack may be a nuke or chemical or germ attack. we should fight terrorists on their homeland not ours!!! think!

https://www.marines.com/home

Go sign up tough guy and go over there and show them what a big man you are.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is over. Our troops are coming home.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The only reason being that the Afghan Prez will not sign a security agreement. This is the same thing that happened in Iraq. If the prez of A. would allow it, we'd still be there. So, thank you president of Afghanistan for telling us to fuck off (if that actually happens).

After that?
SEND IN THE MERCS OF COURSE!!

 

[Mr Natural]

The only reason being that the Afghan Prez will not sign a security agreement. This is the same thing that happened in Iraq. If the prez of A. would allow it, we'd still be there. So, thank you president of Afghanistan for telling us to fuck off (if that actually happens).

After that?
SEND IN THE MERCS OF COURSE!!

Mercs and drones are the way to deal with terrorists.

 

[Sallow]

As soon as we leave, that country is going to descend into chaos whether it's now or 100 years from now.

So it may as well be now.

Terrorist will use afgan as their base of attacks on the west and we will be forced to figh there all over again. CUT AND RUN IS A NO WIN obama idea!!!

We have these things now that fly in the air.

And you can use them to lob bombs on your enemy.

They are called "airplanes". And we've got the best in the world. Why..we can fly these "airplanes" without pilots even. Those are called "drones".

Google it.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The only reason being that the Afghan Prez will not sign a security agreement. This is the same thing that happened in Iraq. If the prez of A. would allow it, we'd still be there. So, thank you president of Afghanistan for telling us to fuck off (if that actually happens).

After that?
SEND IN THE MERCS OF COURSE!!

Mercs and drones are the way to deal with terrorists.

Absolutely. I mean cave dwellers and goat fuckers can seriously cause harm over 5K miles away. What, with all their technology, etc..

And sending mercenariies into a country just screams both civilized and international law abiding!