Obama believes that Islam shares "common principals" with America...

[mal]

"America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." - Barack Obama

Saudi sentenced to jail, lashes over Twitter libel: report

^Yet another example of Islamic "Justice"...

Guy is convicted of Libel and not only his he Fined... Imprisoned... But also whipped 80 times.

Islam is progressive and tolerant, Barry... And they definitely understand the "dignity of all human beings".

Hell, just recently they Beheaded a Homosexual and then Crucified his Headless Body in Public.

It's one thing for Barry to be this Dishonest... It's yet another for Liberals to Excuse it.

Why does Barry say nice things about Islam?... Correction, why does he Lie for them?



peace...

 

[Katzndogz]

One of those common principles islam shares with the American left, is that Jews and Christians be killed

 

[Yurt]

i would like him to be specific...especially the tolerance part

he is dumber than bush

 

[mal]

One of those common principles islam shares with the American left, is that Jews and Christians be killed

Here's a Fact... The Liberal Media is more Outraged when and Abortion Clinic is Targeted than when Islamists are hacking up Christians anywhere in the World.

It's why they call the Islamist Terrorist at Ft. Hood "The Ft. Hood Shooter"...

And the Islamist Terrorists after 9/11 "The Beltway Snipers"

They don't speak Ill of Islam... It's Concerning.

It's one of two things...

1.) They are Cowards.

2.) They are Sympathetic.



peace...

 

[mal]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL-8vUrTvuA]July 23 2013 breaking news MUST SEE VIDEO does obama say he is a muslim? - YouTube[/ame]

^That Video is tweaked but most of clearly illustrates what Obama is...

How many times has he said "the Holy Bible"?...

Anyone got quotes?...



peace...

 

[Dot Com]

Last I heard, Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet. Has that changed?

Heres something else you might not have heard of: BBC News - Cameron unveils Islamic bond plan

 

[BlindBoo]

One of those common principles islam shares with the American left, is that Jews and Christians be killed

Remarks by the President at Cairo University, 6-04-09 | The White House

America's strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable. It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.

Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust. Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed -- more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today. Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful. Threatening Israel with destruction -- or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews -- is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people -- Muslims and Christians -- have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years they've endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations -- large and small -- that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own. (Applause.)

For decades then, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It's easy to point fingers -- for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.

 

[FJO]

Last I heard, Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet. Has that changed?

Heres something else you might not have heard of: BBC News - Cameron unveils Islamic bond plan

Muslims, by "Revering' Jesus, the Son of God, as a "prophet" are dragging Him down to the level of their prophet.

 

[mal]

One of those common principles islam shares with the American left, is that Jews and Christians be killed

Remarks by the President at Cairo University, 6-04-09 | The White House

America's strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable. It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.

Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust. Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed -- more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today. Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful. Threatening Israel with destruction -- or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews -- is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people -- Muslims and Christians -- have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years they've endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations -- large and small -- that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own. (Applause.)

For decades then, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It's easy to point fingers -- for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.

6 Islamic Nations went to War with Israel... And LOST.

Let the Palestinians take up their land issues with Jordan... They took 75% of that land.

And I can't remember... Is it Christian Palestinians who are Suicide Bombing the Jews?...



peace...

 

[BlindBoo]

One of those common principles islam shares with the American left, is that Jews and Christians be killed

Remarks by the President at Cairo University, 6-04-09 | The White House

America's strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable. It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.

Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust. Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed -- more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today. Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful. Threatening Israel with destruction -- or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews -- is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people -- Muslims and Christians -- have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years they've endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations -- large and small -- that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own. (Applause.)

For decades then, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It's easy to point fingers -- for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.

6 Islamic Nations went to War with Israel... And LOST.

Let the Palestinians take up their land issues with Jordan... They took 75% of that land.

And I can't remember... Is it Christian Palestinians who are Suicide Bombing the Jews?...



peace...

Then you agree that the American left has no shared principle with Islamic Radicals who wish to kill Jews and Christians?

 

[Dot Com]

mal getting involved in religious tussles? Mal!!! what happened to you man Get a fiery sermon on new years eve perchance?

As to the OP on punishment- try giving the OT a read sometime mal

 

[mal]

Remarks by the President at Cairo University, 6-04-09 | The White House

America's strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable. It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.

Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust. Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed -- more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today. Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful. Threatening Israel with destruction -- or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews -- is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people -- Muslims and Christians -- have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than 60 years they've endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations -- large and small -- that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own. (Applause.)

For decades then, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It's easy to point fingers -- for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.

6 Islamic Nations went to War with Israel... And LOST.

Let the Palestinians take up their land issues with Jordan... They took 75% of that land.

And I can't remember... Is it Christian Palestinians who are Suicide Bombing the Jews?...



peace...

Then you agree that the American left has no shared principle with Islamic Radicals who wish to kill Jews and Christians?

I am trying to figure out why Obama and the American Left Excuse Islam when it's "mainstream" Governments like Saudi Arabia are EXACTLY the Opposite of what Obama Describes them to be.

80 Lashes for Lible is NORMAL in Saudi Arabia... And you saw our President BOW to the King of that "tolerant" place.

Stop using words like "radical"... Outside of American non-Arab Converts, they are all Radical unless they Openly Denounce what places like the Kingdom do when Executing Homosexuals and everything else.

Why Barry insists on Catering to them and Excusing for them and Lying for them is what I don't understand.

It's either Cowardice or Sympathy.



peace...

 

[mal]

mal getting involved in religious tussles? Mal!!! what happened to you man Get a fiery sermon on new years eve perchance?

As to the OP on punishment- try giving the OT a read sometime mal

Try not Ignoring the New Testament and Christ's Blood sometime there Shitpack.

Muslims are still Operating on 15th Century Barbarism for their LAWS.

Why the FUCK do you run Static for it, Doltcum?...



peace...

 

[Dot Com]

ummm..... I'm an atheist mal so I don't run static. BTW- do you know which religions are monotheistic?

 

[BlindBoo]

6 Islamic Nations went to War with Israel... And LOST.

Let the Palestinians take up their land issues with Jordan... They took 75% of that land.

And I can't remember... Is it Christian Palestinians who are Suicide Bombing the Jews?...



peace...

Then you agree that the American left has no shared principle with Islamic Radicals who wish to kill Jews and Christians?

I am trying to figure out why Obama and the American Left Excuse Islam when it's "mainstream" Governments like Saudi Arabia are EXACTLY the Opposite of what Obama Describes them to be.

80 Lashes for Lible is NORMAL in Saudi Arabia... And you saw our President BOW to the King of that "tolerant" place.

Stop using words like "radical"... Outside of American non-Arab Converts, they are all Radical unless they Openly Denounce what places like the Kingdom do when Executing Homosexuals and everything else.

Why Barry insists on Catering to them and Excusing for them and Lying for them is what I don't understand.

It's either Cowardice or Sympathy.



peace...

Hummm yes, why would America support a full on dictatorship......just kidding, we've supported dictators all over the world for one good reason, commerce.

Company Level Imports

How do the Saudis feel about the negotiations with Iran?

That really doesn't go to show that the American left shares a belief, with anyone radical or not, in killing Christians or Jews.

 

[mal]

Then you agree that the American left has no shared principle with Islamic Radicals who wish to kill Jews and Christians?

I am trying to figure out why Obama and the American Left Excuse Islam when it's "mainstream" Governments like Saudi Arabia are EXACTLY the Opposite of what Obama Describes them to be.

80 Lashes for Lible is NORMAL in Saudi Arabia... And you saw our President BOW to the King of that "tolerant" place.

Stop using words like "radical"... Outside of American non-Arab Converts, they are all Radical unless they Openly Denounce what places like the Kingdom do when Executing Homosexuals and everything else.

Why Barry insists on Catering to them and Excusing for them and Lying for them is what I don't understand.

It's either Cowardice or Sympathy.



peace...

Hummm yes, why would America support a full on dictatorship......just kidding, we've supported dictators all over the world for one good reason, commerce.

Company Level Imports

How do the Saudis feel about the negotiations with Iran?

That really doesn't go to show that the American left shares a belief, with anyone radical or not, in killing Christians or Jews.

Look at my OP again... Read what Obama said about Islam... How is that Honest considering what the VAST majority of Islam is around the World?...



peace...

 

[Mojo2]

"America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." - Barack Obama

Saudi sentenced to jail, lashes over Twitter libel: report

^Yet another example of Islamic "Justice"...

Guy is convicted of Libel and not only his he Fined... Imprisoned... But also whipped 80 times.

Islam is progressive and tolerant, Barry... And they definitely understand the "dignity of all human beings".

Hell, just recently they Beheaded a Homosexual and then Crucified his Headless Body in Public.

It's one thing for Barry to be this Dishonest... It's yet another for Liberals to Excuse it.

Why does Barry say nice things about Islam?... Correction, why does he Lie for them?



peace...

Great thread!

Thanks for posting it!

Amir Taheri's remarks during the debate on " Islam Is Incompatible With Democracy"

[...]

To understand a civilisation it is important to understand its vocabulary.

If it was not on their tongues it is likely that it was not on their minds either.

There was no word in any of the Muslim languages for democracy until the 1890s. Even then the Greek word democracy entered Muslim languages with little change: democrasi in Persian, dimokraytiyah in Arabic, demokratio in Turkish.

Democracy as the proverbial schoolboy would know is based on one fundamental principle: equality.

The Greek word for equal isos is used in more than 200 compound nouns; including isoteos (equality) and Isologia (equal or free speech) and isonomia (equal treatment).

But againwe find no equivalent in any of the Muslim languages. The words we have such as barabari in Persian and sawiyah in Arabic mean juxtaposition or levelling.

Nor do we have a word for politics.

The word siassah, now used as a synonym for politics, initially meant whipping stray camels into line.( Sa'es al-kheil is a person who brings back lost camels to the caravan. )The closest translation may be: regimentation.

Nor is there mention of such words as government and the state in the Koran.

It is no accident that early Muslims translated numerous ancient Greek texts but never those related to political matters. The great Avicenna himself translated Aristotle's Poetics. But there was no translation of Aristotle's Politics in Persian until 1963.

Lest us return to the issue of equality.

The idea is unacceptable to Islam.

For the non-believer cannot be the equal of the believer.

Even among the believers only those who subscribe to the three so-called Abrahamic religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam ( Ahl el-Kitab) are regarded as fully human.

Here is the hierarchy of human worth in Islam:

At the summit are free male Muslims

Next come Muslim male slaves

Then come free Muslim women

Next come Muslim slave women.

Then come free Jewish and /or Christian men

Then come slave Jewish and/or Christian men

Then come slave Jewish and/or Christian women.

Each category has rights that must be respected.

The People of the Book have always been protected and relatively well-treated by Muslim rulers, but often in the context of a form of apartheid known as dhimmitude.

The status of the rest of humanity, those whose faiths are not recognised by Islam or who have no faith at all, has never been spelled out although wherever Muslim rulers faced such communities they often treated them with a certain measure of tolerance and respect ( As in the case of Hindus under the Muslim dynasties of India.)

Non-Muslims can, and have often been, treated with decency, but never as equals.

(There is a hierarchy even for animals and plants. Seven animals and seven plants will assuredly go to heaven while seven others of each will end up in Hell.)

Democracy means the rule of the demos, the common people, or what is now known as popular or national sovereignty.

In Islam, however, power belongs only to God: al-hukm l'illah. The man who exercises that power on earth is known as Khalifat al-Allah, the regent of God.

But even then the Khalifah or Caliph cannot act as legislator. The law has already been spelled out and fixed for ever by God.

The only task that remains is its discovery, interpretation and application.

That, of course, allows for a substantial space in which different styles of rule could develop.

But the bottom line is that no Islamic government can be democratic in the sense of allowing the common people equal shares in legislation.


Islam divides human activities into five categories from the permitted to the sinful, leaving little room for human interpretation, let alone ethical innovations.

What we must understand is that Islam has its own vision of the world and man's place in it.

To say that Islam is incompatible with democracy should not be seen as a disparagement of Islam.

On the contrary, many Muslims would see it as a compliment because they sincerely believe that their idea of rule by God is superior to that of rule by men which is democracy.

Amir Taheri: "Islam Is Incompatible With Democracy"

Like comparing apples and oranges.

They are both fruits and both sort of round shaped and sorta sweet, each one in a different way than the other.

But, essentially, they are completely different.

Obama needs to be emphasizing the differences between our society and Islam so that Islam can not get a greater foothold in America.

Instead, he is trying to conceal the salient fact about Islam.

It is a malignant force which is incompatible with Democracy and seeks to eliminate our system of Government and our freedoms.

He KNOWS full well what he is doing.

He needs to be peacefully and legally stopped as soon as possible or else our very nation is at stake!

 

[BlindBoo]

I am trying to figure out why Obama and the American Left Excuse Islam when it's "mainstream" Governments like Saudi Arabia are EXACTLY the Opposite of what Obama Describes them to be.

80 Lashes for Lible is NORMAL in Saudi Arabia... And you saw our President BOW to the King of that "tolerant" place.

Stop using words like "radical"... Outside of American non-Arab Converts, they are all Radical unless they Openly Denounce what places like the Kingdom do when Executing Homosexuals and everything else.

Why Barry insists on Catering to them and Excusing for them and Lying for them is what I don't understand.

It's either Cowardice or Sympathy.



peace...

Hummm yes, why would America support a full on dictatorship......just kidding, we've supported dictators all over the world for one good reason, commerce.

Company Level Imports

How do the Saudis feel about the negotiations with Iran?

That really doesn't go to show that the American left shares a belief, with anyone radical or not, in killing Christians or Jews.

Look at my OP again... Read what Obama said about Islam... How is that Honest considering what the VAST majority of Islam is around the World?...



peace...

How about a link to the speech where he said it? Do those few sentences you posted somehow prove that President Obama approves of 80 lashes for libel and execution for being Gay?

It is still a long way from proving the absurd notion that the American left want to kill Jews and Christians.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Yeah that piece of shit is a muslim piece of shit, Manchurian Candidate, we been had.
2. "We The People" should get him out.
3. Why we don't protest him is beyond me.
4. We do know where he lives.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. A peaceful protest is in order.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas