Nobody Knows What Was Taken from Mar-A-Lago

[BrokeLoser]

Yea, it's great. Historians, who consistently rank Trump as one of the worst presidents this country has ever had, love it too.

Everything is great in your little Trumplandia.

Hahaha…link us to the credentials of these “historians” you speak of….you can’t so you won’t

 

[Leo123]

Well, the hard core right wingers KNOW the Democrats are wrong, and the hard core left wingers KNOW the Republicans are wrong.

Had Trump pulled out of Afghanistan, the right would be praising the decision. As it is, the right seem to give a shit about women in Afghanistan for the first time ever.

Trump would not have pulled out with people hanging from the plane and he wouldn't have left Billions in munitions and military hardware behind, nor would he have left innocent people behind.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Most FBI agents are repubs. Have a nice day.

Not enough.

 

[Synthaholic]

Interesting thread:



1/ "This week in Trumpland has been wild. So I thought I'd put my FSO hat back on and talk about document classification. This is a long one. A sitting president cannot wave his magic wand and declare something declassified. "

2/ "He has the authority to read someone into classified programs whenever he wishes, but the documents themselves must go through a review process before being officially declassified."

3/ "Certain topics, like nuclear programs (including some communication programs that support nuclear deployment), cannot be declassified by anyone. The president included."

4/ "There was a lot of bruhaha when Trump included blatantly untrustworthy individuals in his planning. It was stupid of him, but also his prerogative as president."

/5 "When a president leaves office, they leave their security classification at the door of the White House. Some presidents may continue to receive national security briefs but that is at the discretion of their successor. "

6/ "Those that receive briefs are read in under the authority of the sitting president. They do not have a security clearance of their own that entitles them to classified information."

7/ "A former president cannot declassify anything. Once they leave office, they are civilians in the eyes of the law. It doesn't matter if the documents were generated when they were president or if they know the contents. NARA will not give them access. "

8/ "No former president can just go to the archives an open a classified file generated during his presidency."

9/ "He certainly cannot talk about sensitive information that he is aware of once out of office. This goes for any government employee. There are topics that I am not allowed to discuss with anyone."

10/ "Most of them are mundane, but they are still classified. Others could put me away for a few decades if I talk about them. Therefore, zipped lip."

11/ "Top Secret/SCI documents cannot be secured by a simple padlock. The National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual, or NISPOM, has strict guidelines on securing classified documents that must be followed. "

12/ "Including the construction of the room that TS/SCI documents are stored in. From the door frame to the thickness of the walls to the lighting fixtures. "

13/ "Inside, the documents must be contained within an accredited safe/file cabinet that declares the classification of its contents. Each cabinet must be secured with a unique combination or reinforced lock. "

14/ "TS/SCI cannot be stored with Secret, which cannot be stored with Confidential. Each classification must be stored only with similarly classified documents. Some SCI documents are so sensitive that they must be stored separately from all others."

15/ "Storing documents in a room locked with a padlock in cardboard boxes isn't even sufficient for Confidential. Removing any document from storage requires that it be checked out and then back in by the FSO. "

16/ "Entering certain parts of a building that stores classified documents requires an FSO escort."

17/ "Every facility that stores classified documents or works on classified projects falls under the aegis of a civilian Facility Security Officer. By law the FSO "owns" the documents. They are solely responsible for their safekeeping."

18/ " Go into a government office and look for a picture somewhere near the entrance. It will be a photo of the FSO along with their contact information."

19/ "DoD/DoE security audits are anal retentive to the extreme. You better believe the auditor will measure the width of your door frame and remove screws to make sure they meet minimum standards."

20/ "They'll test the drywall. Run fiber optics through the HVAC ducts to make sure no one could overhear something through them. God help you if a measurement is off by less than a quarter of an inch."

21/ "If you facility ONLY meets minimum standards, chances are good it's not going to be your facility anymore."

22/ "I have had people jailed for far, far less than what the FBI recovered at Mar-a-Lago. I've fired employees for taking a single Confidential document out of my facility by accident. Because at the end of the day, it's MY document and MY ass on the line in an audit. "

23/ "Put Trump in prison."

 

[Kondor3]

There was no 'Rump' running in 2020, dufus.

There was no stolen election on November 3, 2020, loser.

 

[Kondor3]

Because you say so as you hold your head in your ass and ignore the facts?

What facts would those be, that failed to overturn the results in any of sixty-one cases that were tossed out of court?

 

[The Duke]

From the left putting out absurd conspiracy theories about Trump stealing nuclear secrets to the right crying that the entire affair is politically motivated and Trump is a saint from the highest reaches of heaven, nobody other than those in the federal government involved in the raid know exactly what was taken. The warrant has broad language as to what they were searching for and it has been confirmed that some boxes taken had classified documents in them. That's it. That's all anyone knows yet it hasn't stopped the media, politicians, pundits, and sycophants of all stripes from making total fools of themselves over the past week.

Eleven sets of classified documents were among the materials seized in the raid, according to a receipt for property seized that was attached to the warrant. One group of files was marked “Various classified/TS/SCI documents,” which includes an abbreviation for top-secret/sensitive compartmented information.

The others were four sets of top-secret documents, three groups of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents.

The agents took at least 20 boxes of items, along with binders of photos, one handwritten note and an “executive grant of clemency” for Roger Stone, a Republican political operative whom Trump had pardoned, according to the document.

FBI search warrant reveals agents seized top-secret documents in raid of Trump's home

The FBI seized multiple sets of records marked top secret from former President Donald Trump's resort home Mar-a-Lago, a search warrant unsealed Friday shows.

www.cnbc.com

Something tells me the FBI knows. (what was taken)

 

[Kondor3]

The executed a warrant in June and inspected the documents.

The ones that they knew about at the time, certainly. Apparently, no information came to light in the interim.

This was nothing more than a raid to find any dirt they could find because it expanded the search beyond the documents.

Fun, ain't it? If there was no wrongdoing, then you need not worry.

 

[SweetSue92]

From the left putting out absurd conspiracy theories about Trump stealing nuclear secrets to the right crying that the entire affair is politically motivated and Trump is a saint from the highest reaches of heaven, nobody other than those in the federal government involved in the raid know exactly what was taken. The warrant has broad language as to what they were searching for and it has been confirmed that some boxes taken had classified documents in them. That's it. That's all anyone knows yet it hasn't stopped the media, politicians, pundits, and sycophants of all stripes from making total fools of themselves over the past week.

Eleven sets of classified documents were among the materials seized in the raid, according to a receipt for property seized that was attached to the warrant. One group of files was marked “Various classified/TS/SCI documents,” which includes an abbreviation for top-secret/sensitive compartmented information.

The others were four sets of top-secret documents, three groups of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents.

The agents took at least 20 boxes of items, along with binders of photos, one handwritten note and an “executive grant of clemency” for Roger Stone, a Republican political operative whom Trump had pardoned, according to the document.

FBI search warrant reveals agents seized top-secret documents in raid of Trump's home

The FBI seized multiple sets of records marked top secret from former President Donald Trump's resort home Mar-a-Lago, a search warrant unsealed Friday shows.

www.cnbc.com

You act as though we have not seen this movie before

 

[SweetSue92]

Lots of silly shit from both ends, as usual.

Lots of "reports" and assumptions and conspiracy theories that mean nothing. Partisan masturbation.

Imma start a thread called "non partisan bragging here". All the self-satisfied third party types (but I repeat myself) can write their dissertations about why Parties are Evil (Part One) and their superiority made them a natural choice for non-partisanship (Part Two and optional, but most will choose it). Then, maybe instead of cluttering every thread with comments as illuminating as this one, they can just post a link to their dissertation.

Who's in?

 

[OKTexas]

I know

Crooked Donnie gets caught compromising Top Secret Information

But…But…Clinton got a blow job 30 years ago

Really, prove anything was compromised.

.

 

[OKTexas]

If they were declassified and not the only copy, " what at this point, difference does it make?". You fucking commie propagandist are so predictable.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump would not have pulled out with people hanging from the plane and he wouldn't have left Billions in munitions and military hardware behind, nor would he have left innocent people behind.

And he wasn't going to abandon Bagram, like the idiot xiden did.

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[Mac1958]

Imma start a thread called "non partisan bragging here". All the self-satisfied third party types (but I repeat myself) can write their dissertations about why Parties are Evil (Part One) and their superiority made them a natural choice for non-partisanship (Part Two and optional, but most will choose it). Then, maybe instead of cluttering every thread with comments as illuminating as this one, they can just post a link to their dissertation.

Who's in?

I realize how obedient nutters loathe those of us who choose to eschew the tribes and think for themselves.

You're free to keep reminding me, but it just makes you look more weak, Karen. And more boring. If possible.

 

[rightwinger]

Really, prove anything was compromised.

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Top Secret Information stored with a box of “stuff” in a locked room in compromised.

 

[eagle1462010]

I realize how obedient nutters loathe those of us who choose to eschew the tribes and think for themselves.

You're free to keep reminding me, but it just makes you look more weak, Karen. And more boring. If possible.

You are a member of the Lefts tribe. You fool no one Chief Taliking Bull.

 

[JimH52]

There was no stolen election on November 3, 2020, loser.

That Big Lie will haunt the nation for generations to come. Trump is beyond evil. He is a Monster.

 

[postman]

If they were declassified and not the only copy, " what at this point, difference does it make?". You fucking commie propagandist are so predictable.

Because they weren't declassified. Or they would have been stamped with the declassified stamp, dated, and and initialed by the declassification authority.

 

[JimH52]

Because they weren't declassified. Or they would have been stamped with the declassified stamp, dated, and and initialed by the declassification authority.

Trump is flailing in desperation. Everyone knows that he is lying.

 

[Nostra]

Weird how Merrick Gestapoland won’t release the affidavit.

What is he hiding?