No More Foreign Wars

[Mushroom]

So you are a warmonger. I thought so.

Actually most of us are not. We simply are not so self-absorbed that the only thing we care about is ourselves.

 

[Mushroom]

Vietnam was a civil war between the North and the South

When you have two different countries, that is not a "Civil War".

No more than the Korean War was a Civil War. Or the current invasion of Ukraine is a Civil War.

 

[Stryder50]

It is time to stay out of the foreign war zones and giving money and weapons to fight proxy wars. The money should be spent helping American people and not foreign countries. America first.

You will need to start with a drastic redo of the USA economy.
No more foreign resources and products coming into here.
No more foreign markets for our goods and service, for investments, for trade, etc.

The planet is a sphere and the USA is as much up-wind and up-stream of everyone else as we are also down-wind and down-stream of them.

The only effective way to isolate the USA from the rest of the world, would be to construct a huge airtight and watertight dome over the whole of our nation.

I'd suggest you consider a more informed and realistic view of the world and history.

 

[Blaster]

You will need to start with a drastic redo of the USA economy.
No more foreign resources and products coming into here.
No more foreign markets for our goods and service, for investments, for trade, etc.

The planet is a sphere and the USA is as much up-wind and up-stream of everyone else as we are also down-wind and down-stream of them.

The only effective way to isolate the USA from the rest of the world, would be to construct a huge airtight and watertight dome over the whole of our nation.

I'd suggest you consider a more informed and realistic view of the world and history.

I am not a globalist.

 

[Mushroom]

You will need to start with a drastic redo of the USA economy.
No more foreign resources and products coming into here.

Most seem to forget that traditionally we have had a strong Navy for the exact same reason the British did. From our very start, we were a mercantile nation and were highly dependent on trade.

And we are still one today, so maintain our strong navy in order to guarantee our trade routes.

This is something most of the "Isolationists" do not seem to realize. I would love to go through their homes, and remove everything from them that came from another country we do not share a land border with. We can always trade with Mexico and Canada by land, so that is allowable. But for anywhere else (especially from nations south of Panama), that trade has to come via sea or air.

In other words, I wish them a hell of a lot of luck getting their coffee if we can't guarantee the sea routes to and from our nation are safe. Because that is the only way their coffee is getting here, via ships. It sure as hell is not coming via trucks or trains.

 

[ESay]

Most seem to forget that traditionally we have had a strong Navy for the exact same reason the British did. From our very start, we were a mercantile nation and were highly dependent on trade.

And we are still one today, so maintain our strong navy in order to guarantee our trade routes.

This is something most of the "Isolationists" do not seem to realize. I would love to go through their homes, and remove everything from them that came from another country we do not share a land border with. We can always trade with Mexico and Canada by land, so that is allowable. But for anywhere else (especially from nations south of Panama), that trade has to come via sea or air.

In other words, I wish them a hell of a lot of luck getting their coffee if we can't guarantee the sea routes to and from our nation are safe. Because that is the only way their coffee is getting here, via ships. It sure as hell is not coming via trucks or trains.

Yeah, it is really unbelievable how Germany and India and Egypt and Mexico and a ton of other countries get their coffee without that huge fleet and meddling into other countries.

 

[Stryder50]

I am not a globalist.

Your lifestyle depends upon being a globalist nation.
Your use of a computer and the internet underscore that.
You may not want to consciously participate, but you are doing so at this moment.

Perhaps as a reluctant parasite, but until you move off planet Earth, you are a globalist.

 

[TNHarley]

You will need to start with a drastic redo of the USA economy.
No more foreign resources and products coming into here.
No more foreign markets for our goods and service, for investments, for trade, etc.

The planet is a sphere and the USA is as much up-wind and up-stream of everyone else as we are also down-wind and down-stream of them.

The only effective way to isolate the USA from the rest of the world, would be to construct a huge airtight and watertight dome over the whole of our nation.

I'd suggest you consider a more informed and realistic view of the world and history.

We have to kill people, or pay people to kill people, to be able to trade?
What kind of horseshit is this?

 

[Stryder50]

Yeah, it is really unbelievable how Germany and India and Egypt and Mexico and a ton of other countries get their coffee without that huge fleet and meddling into other countries.

Yeah, a lot of the world benefits from the USA's largess.

Meddling in other countries is a two way event.

We have many countries meddling in our nation and affairs.
CCP China is a major player in that regard.
Many other nations also meddle into USA affairs.

Who do you think is paying the way for transit, food, lodging of those hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants traveling hundreds to thousands of mile to cross our borders against the law, illegally ???

They certainly aren't getting here hoofing it for weeks with only a sack lunch to feed off.

 

[Stryder50]

We have to kill people, or pay people to kill people, to be able to trade?
What kind of horseshit is this?

Your horseshit because I didn't say that.
About 99% of our trade is done peacefully.
Our big stick is used mostly on those who threaten us or have already harmed us.

 

[TNHarley]

Your horseshit because I didn't say that.
About 99% of our trade is done peacefully.
Our big stick is used mostly on those who threaten us or have already harmed us.

Hey dumbass, you are sitting there saying if we dont keep paying people to bomb people, we cant trade and will have to do everything completely isolated. Which is complete horseshit.
Lie again.

 

[ESay]

Yeah, a lot of the world benefits from the USA's largess.

Meddling in other countries is a two way event.

We have many countries meddling in our nation and affairs.
CCP China is a major player in that regard.
Many other nations also meddle into USA affairs.

Who do you think is paying the way for transit, food, lodging of those hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants traveling hundreds to thousands of mile to cross our borders against the law, illegally ???

They certainly aren't getting here hoofing it for weeks with only a sack lunch to feed off.

No one benefits from the USA's largess except of American financial syndicate. Worldwide racketeering is their main export and the biggest source of revenue.

 

[Stryder50]

Hey dumbass, you are sitting there saying if we dont keep paying people to bomb people, we cant trade and will have to do everything completely isolated. Which is complete horseshit.
Lie again.

Dufus!
I was explaining what is required if one wants to truly isolate from world affairs.
History of the past century plus shows the USA has been embroiled in foreign wars, started by foreign powers, because we are involved in global trade and relations and we get drugged into such.

Recent history also shows that when we try to put off, or delay becoming entangled, that the conflicts have grown in scale and in costs to resolve.

This is usually because the USA repeatedly listens to appeasers like you and a few others here who don't care about the lives of other humans on this planet, only your own worthless selfish lives, and when your non-solutions fail, then the mess is larger to clean up.

 

[Stryder50]

No one benefits from the USA's largess except of American financial syndicate. Worldwide racketeering is their main export and the biggest source of revenue.

More ignorant bullshit. Komrade!
Check the ownership of the world's largest banks and you'll see that the USA is a minor player in such.

Clearest example, which history ignoramuses like your self fail to understand or grasp, is the case of World War Two where the USA was a minor military power during the 1930's, especially in size of our Army. We started our build-up during the process of helping nations resisting German, Italian, and Japanese (Axis) aggression and conquest via providing weapons, food, and other equipment to them; United Kingdom, France, China (Allies) primarily.

Combined with increased tariffs and embargoes towards the Axis' only resulted in them defying and taken more aggressive stance against the USA. Eventually it grew to point of the USA being attacked by the Axis and dragged into another 'European' war.

This kicked in the "Arsenal of Democracy"; a production growth that lifted the USA out of the Depression, and eventual victory in that war.
When the war was over, there was surplus of USA merchant ships available to the world at reduced cost, tens of thousands trucks and jeeps left overseas (build up local motor transport) and through our international air transport efforts, hundreds of airfield/paved runways around the world, along with increased navigation routes with radio direction and radar guidance systems, and thousands of transport aircraft also surplussed at reduced costs that helped start many international airlines.

After a war of destruction, the USA then paid to rebuild, the Marshall Plan, plus took on defending the decimated nations from Soviet aggression and expansion.

We called a lot of this "Lend-Lease"; but never got much of it back or paid for.
Even though a huge amount of money and material went out, one way, the USA was still able to rise to a global power and protector of the recovering nations of the world.

 

[TNHarley]

Dufus!
I was explaining what is required if one wants to truly isolate from world affairs.
History of the past century plus shows the USA has been embroiled in foreign wars, started by foreign powers, because we are involved in global trade and relations and we get drugged into such.

Recent history also shows that when we try to put off, or delay becoming entangled, that the conflicts have grown in scale and in costs to resolve.

This is usually because the USA repeatedly listens to appeasers like you and a few others here who don't care about the lives of other humans on this planet, only your own worthless selfish lives, and when your non-solutions fail, then the mess is larger to clean up.

You responded to this
It is time to stay out of the foreign war zones and giving money and weapons to fight proxy wars. The money should be spent helping American people and not foreign countries. America first.
So you are delusional. Explains a lot. Thanks.

 

[Stryder50]

You responded to this
It is time to stay out of the foreign war zones and giving money and weapons to fight proxy wars. The money should be spent helping American people and not foreign countries. America first.
So you are delusional. Explains a lot. Thanks.

No, you are delusional.
I've given clues how the "America First" ideology has failed repeatedly over the last century plus.
When one repeatedly does something that fails to work several times already, what do you call that ???

 

[TNHarley]

No, you are delusional.
I've given clues how the "America First" ideology has failed repeatedly over the last century plus.
When one repeatedly does something that fails to work several times already, what do you call that ???

Failing miserably. Like you are doing.

 

[Stryder50]

It is time to stay out of the foreign war zones and giving money and weapons to fight proxy wars. The money should be spent helping American people and not foreign countries. America first.

According to latest from US Debt Clock, real-time, USA spends the following;
Interest on Debt = @ $ 957 billion
Social Security = @ $ 1,480 Trillion
Medicare/Medicaid = @ $ 1,816 Trillion
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TOTAL = @ $ 4,253 Trillion

Defense/War = @ $ 931 Billion

We spend about 4.57 times as much on those first three as we do on Defense, yet only the military/defense is a Constitutional mandate for the Federal Government. Those other three huge expenses could be seen as extra-legal per Constitution.

Federal Spending is @ $ 7,140 Trillion; with
Debt @ $2, 217 Trillion

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Slight reductions in Defense spending are not going to solve the larger problems.

 

[Stryder50]

Failing miserably. Like you are doing.

Yet you and others here want to repeat the frequently failed "America First" policy.

 

[TNHarley]

Yet you and others here want to repeat the frequently failed "America First" policy.

LOL
Being the worlds police and instigating, participating in, and funding wars over the globe is awesome right? The world loves and respects us. We havent ruined entire countries because we are nosey assholes.
Nope all is peachy.
"failed" LMFAO