No criminal convictions for illegals in NYC

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Four migrants who were busted for allegedly shoplifting at a Long Island Macy’s after being bused to the Big Apple from Texas won’t face deportation — unless they’re convicted, sources and legal experts said Tuesday.

The men, who are charged with stealing more than $12,000 in merchandise from Macy’s Roosevelt Field earlier this month, are getting a break because they are asylum seekers, not illegal immigrants who crossed the US border.

The accused thieves — Wrallan Cabezas Meza, 19, Miguel Angel Rojas, 21, Rafael Rojas, 27, and Jose Garcia Escobar, 30 — are accused of driving from Manhattan to the Nassau County mall on Jan. 9 and walking off with the goods.

They were caught when cops pulled over their 2006 BMW, which had bogus plates, according to criminal complaints filed in the case.

In court the following day, Rafael Rojas and Escobar were released without bail, while Miguel Rojas had bail set at $1,000 and Meza at $1,500, authorities said.

Nicho said the Empire State’s immigration “sanctuary” status also plays a role.

Migrants busted for shoplifting in NY won’t be deported — unless they’re convicted

“The New York City attitude comes with the territory of them being overburdened and not wanting to cooperate with the feds,” he said. “But they will when it’s a serious enough crime.”



The attorney added, “Without an actual criminal conviction, you’re asking the local police to enforce civil immigration laws.”

“The sanctuary city status helps, with so many advocates in the city for them,” Nicho said.

I'm sure the owner of the BMW was happy to lend it to them, too.

But, but, but.....Those fighting age males are so "oppressed" in their home country.
 
Of course they are going to steal, when they dont have jobs. They are not uninformed idiots, all migrants coming into the U.S. are aware of how lax our laws are. They dont respect us.
These are not like migrants of the past ... too many gang members and people with criminal history coming in the mix.
What a joke. Wait until they do something worse?
 
Four migrants who were busted for allegedly shoplifting at a Long Island Macy’s after being bused to the Big Apple from Texas won’t face deportation — unless they’re convicted, sources and legal experts said Tuesday.

The men, who are charged with stealing more than $12,000 in merchandise from Macy’s Roosevelt Field earlier this month, are getting a break because they are asylum seekers, not illegal immigrants who crossed the US border.

The accused thieves — Wrallan Cabezas Meza, 19, Miguel Angel Rojas, 21, Rafael Rojas, 27, and Jose Garcia Escobar, 30 — are accused of driving from Manhattan to the Nassau County mall on Jan. 9 and walking off with the goods.

They were caught when cops pulled over their 2006 BMW, which had bogus plates, according to criminal complaints filed in the case.

In court the following day, Rafael Rojas and Escobar were released without bail, while Miguel Rojas had bail set at $1,000 and Meza at $1,500, authorities said.

Nicho said the Empire State’s immigration “sanctuary” status also plays a role.

Migrants busted for shoplifting in NY won’t be deported — unless they’re convicted

“The New York City attitude comes with the territory of them being overburdened and not wanting to cooperate with the feds,” he said. “But they will when it’s a serious enough crime.”



The attorney added, “Without an actual criminal conviction, you’re asking the local police to enforce civil immigration laws.”

“The sanctuary city status helps, with so many advocates in the city for them,” Nicho said.

I'm sure the owner of the BMW was happy to lend it to them, too.

But, but, but.....Those fighting age males are so "oppressed" in their home country.

A little late ... the United States Constitution explicitly states that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has exclusive rights of deportation ...

How this would have worked in Oregon is simple ... shoplifting is a violation of State Law, they'd be arrested and ICE notified ... get that, the Feds are asked to check immigration status ... unfortunately, our jails are full and to incarcerate these four we'd have to turn loose four ... ha ha ... so, no, we're not putting shoplifters in jail ... if the Feds want them, they have to come get them ... it is illegal to spend Oregon tax dollars on enforcement of Federal laws ...

Why are the Feds letting criminals in under the "asylum seekers" rules? ... and why should Oregon, or New York, taxes pay for any of it? ... use Federal tax dollars ...
 
A little late ... the United States Constitution explicitly states that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has exclusive rights of deportation ...

How this would have worked in Oregon is simple ... shoplifting is a violation of State Law, they'd be arrested and ICE notified ... get that, the Feds are asked to check immigration status ... unfortunately, our jails are full and to incarcerate these four we'd have to turn loose four ... ha ha ... so, no, we're not putting shoplifters in jail ... if the Feds want them, they have to come get them ... it is illegal to spend Oregon tax dollars on enforcement of Federal laws ...

Why are the Feds letting criminals in under the "asylum seekers" rules? ... and why should Oregon, or New York, taxes pay for any of it? ... use Federal tax dollars ...
Why?.....If you set yourself up as a "sanctuary" state or locality then it's on your taxpayers to foot the bill.....Lawless virtue-signaling should have it's consequences.

BTW....OR is such a state.

There are 7 Sanctuary States: California, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Mexico, Oregon and Vermont.



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Sanctuary States 2023
 
Mexico isn't sending their best and brightest.

Don't tell Biden.
Were they Mexicans? Nope.

They will be deported, after due process.... though it seems they should be deported now, like an undocumented illegal but because they are documented as asylum seekers, they are under our jurisdiction and afforded due process is how it appears?
 
Were they Mexicans? Nope.

They will be deported, after due process.... though it seems they should be deported now, like an undocumented illegal but because they are documented as asylum seekers, they are under our jurisdiction and afforded due process is how it appears?

Were they Mexicans? Nope.

Where were they from?

but because they are documented as asylum seekers,

"Our shithole country doesn't have any good stuff to steal" isn't grounds for asylum.
 
Were they Mexicans? Nope.

Where were they from?

but because they are documented as asylum seekers,

"Our shithole country doesn't have any good stuff to steal" isn't grounds for asylum.
The law is the law....

They were from one of the central or south American countries designated as asylum seeker allowed countries by the US, or Haiti, or the Ukraine also designated as such by the U.S.
 
NYC was once a nice place to visit but it has gone downhill.
 
The law is the law....

They were from one of the central or south American countries designated as asylum seeker allowed countries by the US, or Haiti, or the Ukraine also designated as such by the U.S.

The law is silly.

Coming from a shithole isn't grounds for asylum.
 
Why?.....If you set yourself up as a "sanctuary" state or locality then it's on your taxpayers to foot the bill.....Lawless virtue-signaling should have it's consequences.

BTW....OR is such a state.

There are 7 Sanctuary States: California, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Mexico, Oregon and Vermont.



:oops8:

Sanctuary States 2023

You didn't say why State tax money should be spent on Federal responsibilities ... are you stupid or something ... oops ... no, Oregon State Taxes don't pay for border security ... only United States taxes pay for that ... why would Oregon guard her border with Idaho? ... we like potatoes ... and onions ... we just don't want her untaxed cigarettes ...

If you'd read the article you posted with comprehension, you'd note that New York will be prosecuting these folks for the crime of shoplifting ... that's a STATE LAW, and State tax dollars will be spent convicting these individuals for that crime ... that has nothing to do with being a sanctuary state ...

What isn't prosecuted in STATE COURTS is immigration violations ... that's strictly FEDERAL COURTS ... stupid ... New Mexico doesn't actually have laws against entered the state ... Some have argued New Mexico can't stop Texans from entering ... why should they, that's The I-8 running there, why shouldn't US citizens be able to use it to get to Arizona ...
 
You didn't say why State tax money should be spent on Federal responsibilities ... are you stupid or something ... oops ... no, Oregon State Taxes don't pay for border security ... only United States taxes pay for that ... why would Oregon guard her border with Idaho? ... we like potatoes ... and onions ... we just don't want her untaxed cigarettes ...

If you'd read the article you posted with comprehension, you'd note that New York will be prosecuting these folks for the crime of shoplifting ... that's a STATE LAW, and State tax dollars will be spent convicting these individuals for that crime ... that has nothing to do with being a sanctuary state ...

What isn't prosecuted in STATE COURTS is immigration violations ... that's strictly FEDERAL COURTS ... stupid ... New Mexico doesn't actually have laws against entered the state ... Some have argued New Mexico can't stop Texans from entering ... why should they, that's The I-8 running there, why shouldn't US citizens be able to use it to get to Arizona ...
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