Nice going President Trump

[Mac1958]

you forgot to include the word FORMER president trump.

They just don't believe it. It's a fuckin' psychosis.

 

[freyasman]

...Decent people are always shocked and surprised at the depths to which folks like you will sink.

Whatever-in-the-world are you babbling about?

Which word don't you understand?

 

[jknowgood]

Everything listed in the TIME article was perfectly legal. It was just a coordinated get out the vote effort. Of course he didn't like it--the effort was for Biden, and it worked.

No ma'am, It was not just a get out the vote effort. It was a conspiracy to manipulate the election for Biden and if we had a true justice system I doubt it would be deemed legal. From the article: That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information." That you can see the effort was for Biden gives lie to their statement that they weren't trying to control the outcome. That this happened should terrify people on both sides of political ideology.

The Secret Bipartisan Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | Time

What do you call the concerted effort across media and tech to broadcast The Big Lie? They were just combatting the most dishonest hoax ever foisted on the American people by T**** and the Republican party.

 

[Faun]

Trump knows he won the election - American Thinker

During his speech at CPAC on Sunday afternoon, Donald Trump made no bones about the fact that he won the 2020 election. The reason he's not in the White House is because of a system that was reconfigured for fraud and a cowardly Supreme Court. He also warned Americans worried about future elections that HR1, a bill the Congressional Democrats are pushing, will permanently ensconce election fraud.


Trump noted that he got 12 million more votes than in 2016; carried Florida, Ohio, and Iowa by large margins; and won 18 of America's 19 bellwether counties. "There's never been anything like that. And yet, did Biden win? No!" The election, Trump rightly said, was "a disgrace to our country."

Trump had a laundry list of ways to make the elections fair:

• Hold them on a single day, not over weeks;
• Limit absentee ballots to those who prove they cannot make it to the polls;
• Demand voter ID, universal signature-matching, and citizenship verification; and
• Enforce stringent chain of custody requirements.

Using COVID as an excuse, the Democrats ignored all the systems that ensure fair elections. The result was an "election process [that] is worse than that in many cases of a third-world country." And the Democrats, he said, are so proud of what they did, they "admitted [it] in Time Magazine[.] ... They just couldn't hold it in. They had to brag about it."

 

[Crepitus]

Trump knows he won the election - American Thinker

During his speech at CPAC on Sunday afternoon, Donald Trump made no bones about the fact that he won the 2020 election. The reason he's not in the White House is because of a system that was reconfigured for fraud and a cowardly Supreme Court. He also warned Americans worried about future elections that HR1, a bill the Congressional Democrats are pushing, will permanently ensconce election fraud.


Trump noted that he got 12 million more votes than in 2016; carried Florida, Ohio, and Iowa by large margins; and won 18 of America's 19 bellwether counties. "There's never been anything like that. And yet, did Biden win? No!" The election, Trump rightly said, was "a disgrace to our country."

Trump had a laundry list of ways to make the elections fair:

• Hold them on a single day, not over weeks;
• Limit absentee ballots to those who prove they cannot make it to the polls;
• Demand voter ID, universal signature-matching, and citizenship verification; and
• Enforce stringent chain of custody requirements.

Using COVID as an excuse, the Democrats ignored all the systems that ensure fair elections. The result was an "election process [that] is worse than that in many cases of a third-world country." And the Democrats, he said, are so proud of what they did, they "admitted [it] in Time Magazine[.] ... They just couldn't hold it in. They had to brag about it."

Hey mods, why are we letting the wack-jobs post conspiracy theories in the wrong forums?

 

[Vel]

unelected cabal " controlling the flow of information "

What do you call the Big Lie? There was bigtime control of an unbelievable flow of dishonest wheedling and misinformation and escalating violent rhetoric for two months. I'd sure love to know the masterminds behind it; they belong in prison for the rest of their lives. There was a cabal alright. You're just confused about who was operating it.

I'm not at all confused. If you haven't, READ the TIME article. They lay out exactly how they worked to affect the election. They openly tell you. You should really try to set your partisanship aside and see the 1984 hiding in plain site in that article. The next time, that cabal might not be working for your desired result. NO ONE should be controlling the free flow of information in this country. It's scary that so many are willing to cede the first amendment if doing so will offer them a perceived short term political gain. The following paragraphs from the article should jangle alarm bells for EVERYONE that values free speech.

"

According to Ball, a biographer of Nancy Pelosi, this was the result of “a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both [timely] curtailed the [Black Lives Matter] protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.” It came from “an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans.”

She described these groups who worked together for many months before the election as a “well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.”

“Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding,” she wrote. “They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.”

“They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation,” she continued, “and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction.” And, after election day, “they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result.”

Ian Bassin, who is identified in the column as the co-founder of Protect Democracy, is quoted as basically affirming Giuliani’s assertion, stating “it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally.”

Thanks, I DID read it, but the refresher was helpful.
You really, honestly can't see it, can you? Do you think if they were being open and honest that the perpetrators of the Big Lie would say anything different? This past election was a war for the hearts and souls of the American people, Vel. An autocrat was trying to sieze an election he lost, aided by the political party in control. It was the most massive propaganda campaign I've ever witnessed.

But it was all just as legal as T**** and Co. lying to the American people and whining to every court in the land, who all told him to go fly a kite.

I think you're misunderstanding the timing here. You seem to be focused on the aftermath of November 3rd. This article primarily details the events in the year prior leading to the election. We did not have a free and fair election if information was being withheld or distorted from the American public in the run up to the election. We did not have a free and fair election when a "well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.” prior to the election. This is indeed propaganda. It was targeted against the public before the election in order to influence the election. It's sad that you don't recognize that the reigns of power have literally been seized by the self named "cabal". Step back from the personalities and look at the policies and you'll understand why freedom loving Americans are rightly horrified and outraged. We are being used as pawns in a game and people can't stop cheering "their" team long enough to realize it. Even the so called insurrection at the Capital. News is out that Nancy Pelosi REFUSED the 10,000 National Guard troops for the Capital in the days prior to November 6th. The excuse given was the optics however, given that everything else in the election was gamed, I guess we'll see.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats who is involved in the case,,,

And that’s how people reference them.

At least, that’s how educated people reference them. You’re just a useful idiot.

not in the legal community,,,

its all about the numbers,,,

Yes, in the legal community. No one memorizes case numbers.

of course people memorize the case numbers,, the USC is in numerical order not alphabetical order dumbass,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Trump knows he won the election - American Thinker

During his speech at CPAC on Sunday afternoon, Donald Trump made no bones about the fact that he won the 2020 election. The reason he's not in the White House is because of a system that was reconfigured for fraud and a cowardly Supreme Court. He also warned Americans worried about future elections that HR1, a bill the Congressional Democrats are pushing, will permanently ensconce election fraud.


Trump noted that he got 12 million more votes than in 2016; carried Florida, Ohio, and Iowa by large margins; and won 18 of America's 19 bellwether counties. "There's never been anything like that. And yet, did Biden win? No!" The election, Trump rightly said, was "a disgrace to our country."

Trump had a laundry list of ways to make the elections fair:

• Hold them on a single day, not over weeks;
• Limit absentee ballots to those who prove they cannot make it to the polls;
• Demand voter ID, universal signature-matching, and citizenship verification; and
• Enforce stringent chain of custody requirements.

Using COVID as an excuse, the Democrats ignored all the systems that ensure fair elections. The result was an "election process [that] is worse than that in many cases of a third-world country." And the Democrats, he said, are so proud of what they did, they "admitted [it] in Time Magazine[.] ... They just couldn't hold it in. They had to brag about it."

Hey mods, why are we letting the wack-jobs post conspiracy theories in the wrong forums?

where else would you post if they stopped allowing you to do it here???

 

[progressive hunter]

Everything listed in the TIME article was perfectly legal. It was just a coordinated get out the vote effort. Of course he didn't like it--the effort was for Biden, and it worked.

It was legal, although it shows that it's a joke. Corporations have the legal means to manipulate elections to their liking, so voting doesn't really matter.

It wasn't enough for them to buy all the candidates. They had to make sure that they got the candidate they wanted most.

I do wish corporations couldn't contribute, but they'd find some way around it.

where do you think dems get most of their money???

 

[colfax_m]

thats who is involved in the case,,,

And that’s how people reference them.

At least, that’s how educated people reference them. You’re just a useful idiot.

not in the legal community,,,

its all about the numbers,,,

Yes, in the legal community. No one memorizes case numbers.

of course people memorize the case numbers,, the USC is in numerical order not alphabetical order dumbass,,,

Ever read a SCOTUS decision?

 

[progressive hunter]

thats who is involved in the case,,,

And that’s how people reference them.

At least, that’s how educated people reference them. You’re just a useful idiot.

not in the legal community,,,

its all about the numbers,,,

Yes, in the legal community. No one memorizes case numbers.

of course people memorize the case numbers,, the USC is in numerical order not alphabetical order dumbass,,,

Ever read a SCOTUS decision?

yep,,,

 

[my2¢]

Trump knows he won but his separation from reality was one of the reasons I went with Biden in the past election.

 

[colfax_m]

yep,,,

What does it look like when they reference prior cases?

 

[progressive hunter]

yep,,,

What does it look like when they reference prior cases?

what do you use when you look up a case in the USC numbers or letters??

 

[colfax_m]

what do you use when you look up a case in the USC numbers or letters??

Answer my question. Stop dodging.

 

[progressive hunter]

what do you use when you look up a case in the USC numbers or letters??

Answer my question. Stop dodging.

so you dont know???

 

[colfax_m]

so you dont know???

Answer my question. Stop dodging.

Then I will answer yours.

 

[progressive hunter]

so you dont know???

Answer my question. Stop dodging.

Then I will answer yours.

doesnt matter how they refer to it cause they still look it up by the numbers,,,

 

[colfax_m]

doesnt matter how they refer to it cause they still look it up by the numbers,,,

How do they refer to it in the decisions?

 

[progressive hunter]

doesnt matter how they refer to it cause they still look it up by the numbers,,,

How do they refer to it in the decisions?

I am sure it varies,,,

but if someone wants to discuss a case they need the number to look it up,,,