NHS fails to save life of Islamic bombing victim...failing in the most basic emergency care procedures...

[JoeB131]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

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According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

.


According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

That we piss away Hundreds of billions on a bloated military industrial complex isn't their problem. We spend 30 billion on an aircraft carrier and our roads and schools are crumbling, that's kind of messed up.

Nor is medical innovation really an American thing. The Covid Vaccine was developed in Germany, for instance.

And the Brits are doing a better job of distributing it than we are.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

We pay a small amount of tax every month and that covers us for all treatment, drugs the lot.The time it takes varies depending on the treatment and sometimes where you live.
I have no idea what each treatment costs because it is not something I need to worry about. The UK is still waiting for its first medical bankruptcy which is scheduled to happen in the year - never.

What do you mean? What medical bankruptcy?

They have too many people wanting too many services and they don't have enough money to pay for them.....

You have to dig deep since the first pages of any search all you get is praise for the NHS...you have to punch in "NHS Failing," "NHS Collapsing," to get to the real story......

For example....

Single-Payer in Crisis: Britain's NHS Cancels 50,000 Surgeries Amid Long Waits For Care, 'Third World' Conditions


Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials. The instructions on Tuesday night - which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed - followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades. Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space. Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS medical director, on Tuesday ordered NHS trusts to stop taking all but the most urgent cases, closing outpatients clinics for weeks as well as cancelling around 50,000 planned operations. Trusts have also been told they can abandon efforts to house male and female patients in separate wards, in an effort to protect basic safety, as services become overwhelmed...By Tuesday night 12 NHS trusts - including two ambulance services covering almost nine million people - had declared they had reached the maximum state of emergency...

East of England Ambulance Service, also at maximum capacity, said some patients were being sent taxis to get them to hospital, with paramedics stuck in ambulances queuing at hospitals for more than 500 hours in the last four days...A number of NHS trust chief executives described the pressure as “relentless” with several on Tuesday saying they had never seen such pressure during 30 years in the health service. Dr Nick Scriven, president of the Society for Acute Medicine, said: "The position at the moment is as bad as I've ever known. We are simply not coping, we were at full capacity before the sorts of pressures that we should be able to manage - like a rise in flu - is pushing us over the edge. “Things are terrible now, but I am fearful the next few weeks will be horrendous."


A blanket, nationwide ban on all "non-urgent" until at least next month, with overcrowded state hospitals leaving sick and elderly patients in hallways, and treatment in some areas deteriorating to "third world" levels. Wait times for care have hit 12 hours, with ambulances forming long lines outside hospitals (hardly unprecedented over there) lasting hundreds of combined hours, forcing vulnerable citizens to travel to emergency in taxis and private vehicles, due to a chronic ambulance backlog. This is single-payer healthcare, operating in an advanced Western nation that has had their system in place for decades. A fundamentally flawed system, insufficient resources and an aging population are proving to be a recipe for disaster.

And that disaster is exactly what Bernie Sanders and a bevy of Democratic presidential hopefuls have in mind for the American people -- this, despite the stunning fiscal realities that have blocked far-left states like Vermont and Californiafrom implementing "universal healthcare" fantasies.
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Single-Payer Health Care Is A Terrible Option

What has been the response to the public outcry about unacceptable waits for care in virtually all single-payer systems? First, a growing list of European governments—including Denmark, England, Finland, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, and Sweden—have issued dozens of decrees and “guarantees” of timely care with notably lax targets, even as those guarantees continue to be unmet. Second, many single-payer systems now funnel taxpayer money to private care to solve their systems’ inadequacies, just as we now do in our own VA system, and use taxpayer money for care in other countries, as codified in Section 3A of the NHS Constitution, as well. In one year alone, £901 million targeted for medical services by the UK government was used to buy care from private and other non-NHS providers, according to research by the Financial Times in March 2017.
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NHS problems 'at their worst since 1990s'


Services in the NHS in England are deteriorating in a way not seen since the early 1990s, according to a leading health think tank.
The King's Fund review said waiting times for A&E, cancer care and routine operations had all started getting worse, while deficits were growing.
It said such drops in performance had not been seen for 20 years.
But the think tank acknowledged the NHS had done as well as could be expected, given the financial climate.
Professor John Appleby, chief economist at the King's Fund, which specialises in health care policy, said: "The next government will inherit a health service that has run out of money and is operating at the very edge of its limits.
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And yet we still get better outcomes than your system that lets poor people die.The whole civilised world gets better outcomes as you would expect.
Any healthcare system based on your ability to pay is uncivilised and an affront to Christian sensibilities.

The main question is how long such a system can exist. In my opinion, due to demographic and changes in economy most European countries get to 'americanization' of their healthcare.

It will exist as long as folk want it.As a percentage we spend a lot less on health than the US. There is plenty of scope there.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

.


According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

We are not beholden to you for anything. Spend your own money on bombs and dont dictate to us what we spend our money on.

 

[Unkotare]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.
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However, neither the ambulance crew nor the accident and emergency (A&E) department at the hospital applied tourniquets or splints to stem the bleeding, and trauma doctors did not perform a “thoracotomy” procedure to help with the blood loss for reasons which are unclear.

“Our medical experts have suggested that there were procedures that Saffie could have had and she didn’t. She was losing that much blood. And there wasn’t a successful procedure in place to get that blood into Saffie – even in A&E. Why?” demanded Mr Roussos.

UK: 8-year-old Islamic Terror Bombing Victim Could Have Survived

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the Ariana Grande concert bombing, could have survived with better care, say experts.

www.breitbart.com

And mistakes can happen. You are so lucky in the US that medical negligence doesnt exist.

Hmmm...defensive...

 

[Unkotare]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

.


According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

We are not beholden to you for anything. Spend your own money on bombs and dont dictate to us what we spend our money on.

And now you don't have the EU ordering you to spend money the way they dictate. Good for you!

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

Well, I don't know about 'Bill' but I can give you a 'first-hand' account of my own personal experience of how my diagnosis was acted upon and treated.
On the 28 Aug 2014, I was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 months without treatment and no more than 6 months with treatment to live. The cancer that had started in my bowel had spread to my liver of which 85% was infected with hundreds of thousands of tumors. Also my lungs were infected in two areas and there as also two areas's in my left arm infected with cancer.

I saw an oncology consultant on 16 Sept. My treatment started on 22 Sept. 2014.
Since then I have had 118 chemotherapy treatments over six and a half years.
I once asked my consultant how much each treatment would have cost me if had to pay privately?
He said each would have cost me £6000 approx for just the actual treatment meaning without including his consultancy fees.
So let's do the maths - 118 x £6000 = £708,000 (without consultancy fees) .

On top of that, I've had an operation for a strangulated hernia and on another occasion, I spent a month in hospital being treated with a sepsis infection.

At the time I was diagnosed I was a self-employed businessman.

So what would have happened had I lived in the US?

 

[ESay]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

We pay a small amount of tax every month and that covers us for all treatment, drugs the lot.The time it takes varies depending on the treatment and sometimes where you live.
I have no idea what each treatment costs because it is not something I need to worry about. The UK is still waiting for its first medical bankruptcy which is scheduled to happen in the year - never.

What do you mean? What medical bankruptcy?

They have too many people wanting too many services and they don't have enough money to pay for them.....

You have to dig deep since the first pages of any search all you get is praise for the NHS...you have to punch in "NHS Failing," "NHS Collapsing," to get to the real story......

For example....

Single-Payer in Crisis: Britain's NHS Cancels 50,000 Surgeries Amid Long Waits For Care, 'Third World' Conditions


Every hospital in the country has been ordered to cancel all non-urgent surgery until at least February in an unprecedented step by NHS officials. The instructions on Tuesday night - which will see result in around 50,000 operations being axed - followed claims by senior doctors that patients were being treated in “third world” conditions, as hospital chief executives warned of the worst winter crisis for three decades. Hospitals are reporting growing chaos, with a spike in winter flu leaving frail patients facing 12-hour waits, and some units running out of corridor space. Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS medical director, on Tuesday ordered NHS trusts to stop taking all but the most urgent cases, closing outpatients clinics for weeks as well as cancelling around 50,000 planned operations. Trusts have also been told they can abandon efforts to house male and female patients in separate wards, in an effort to protect basic safety, as services become overwhelmed...By Tuesday night 12 NHS trusts - including two ambulance services covering almost nine million people - had declared they had reached the maximum state of emergency...

East of England Ambulance Service, also at maximum capacity, said some patients were being sent taxis to get them to hospital, with paramedics stuck in ambulances queuing at hospitals for more than 500 hours in the last four days...A number of NHS trust chief executives described the pressure as “relentless” with several on Tuesday saying they had never seen such pressure during 30 years in the health service. Dr Nick Scriven, president of the Society for Acute Medicine, said: "The position at the moment is as bad as I've ever known. We are simply not coping, we were at full capacity before the sorts of pressures that we should be able to manage - like a rise in flu - is pushing us over the edge. “Things are terrible now, but I am fearful the next few weeks will be horrendous."


A blanket, nationwide ban on all "non-urgent" until at least next month, with overcrowded state hospitals leaving sick and elderly patients in hallways, and treatment in some areas deteriorating to "third world" levels. Wait times for care have hit 12 hours, with ambulances forming long lines outside hospitals (hardly unprecedented over there) lasting hundreds of combined hours, forcing vulnerable citizens to travel to emergency in taxis and private vehicles, due to a chronic ambulance backlog. This is single-payer healthcare, operating in an advanced Western nation that has had their system in place for decades. A fundamentally flawed system, insufficient resources and an aging population are proving to be a recipe for disaster.

And that disaster is exactly what Bernie Sanders and a bevy of Democratic presidential hopefuls have in mind for the American people -- this, despite the stunning fiscal realities that have blocked far-left states like Vermont and Californiafrom implementing "universal healthcare" fantasies.
=====

Single-Payer Health Care Is A Terrible Option

What has been the response to the public outcry about unacceptable waits for care in virtually all single-payer systems? First, a growing list of European governments—including Denmark, England, Finland, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, and Sweden—have issued dozens of decrees and “guarantees” of timely care with notably lax targets, even as those guarantees continue to be unmet. Second, many single-payer systems now funnel taxpayer money to private care to solve their systems’ inadequacies, just as we now do in our own VA system, and use taxpayer money for care in other countries, as codified in Section 3A of the NHS Constitution, as well. In one year alone, £901 million targeted for medical services by the UK government was used to buy care from private and other non-NHS providers, according to research by the Financial Times in March 2017.
-----

NHS problems 'at their worst since 1990s'


Services in the NHS in England are deteriorating in a way not seen since the early 1990s, according to a leading health think tank.
The King's Fund review said waiting times for A&E, cancer care and routine operations had all started getting worse, while deficits were growing.
It said such drops in performance had not been seen for 20 years.
But the think tank acknowledged the NHS had done as well as could be expected, given the financial climate.
Professor John Appleby, chief economist at the King's Fund, which specialises in health care policy, said: "The next government will inherit a health service that has run out of money and is operating at the very edge of its limits.
================

And yet we still get better outcomes than your system that lets poor people die.The whole civilised world gets better outcomes as you would expect.
Any healthcare system based on your ability to pay is uncivilised and an affront to Christian sensibilities.

The main question is how long such a system can exist. In my opinion, due to demographic and changes in economy most European countries get to 'americanization' of their healthcare.

It will exist as long as folk want it.As a percentage we spend a lot less on health than the US. There is plenty of scope there.

Yes, I have heard that the US spends more money on healthcare than the UK does (in percentage). I dont understand the reason, if it is so.

 

[ESay]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

Well, I don't know about 'Bill' but I can give you a 'first-hand' account of my own personal experience of how my diagnosis was acted upon and treated.
On the 28 Aug 2014, I was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 months without treatment and no more than 6 months with treatment to live. The cancer that had started in my bowel had spread to my liver of which 85% was infected with hundreds of thousands of tumors. Also my lungs were infected in two areas and there as also two areas's in my left arm infected with cancer.

I saw an oncology consultant on 16 Sept. My treatment started on 22 Sept. 2014.
Since then I have had 118 chemotherapy treatments over six and a half years.
I once asked my consultant how much each treatment would have cost me if had to pay privately?
He said each would have cost me £6000 approx for just the actual treatment meaning without including his consultancy fees.
So let's do the maths - 118 x £6000 = £708,000 (without consultancy fees) .

On top of that, I've had an operation for a strangulated hernia and on another occasion, I spent a month in hospital being treated with a sepsis infection.

At the time I was diagnosed I was a self-employed businessman.

So what would have happened had I lived in the US?

I am glad that the UK health care system has helped you, really. I think that the vast majority of people would afford such treatment if they were to pay for it.

I cant say about the US. I don't live there.

 

[2aguy]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

Well, I don't know about 'Bill' but I can give you a 'first-hand' account of my own personal experience of how my diagnosis was acted upon and treated.
On the 28 Aug 2014, I was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 months without treatment and no more than 6 months with treatment to live. The cancer that had started in my bowel had spread to my liver of which 85% was infected with hundreds of thousands of tumors. Also my lungs were infected in two areas and there as also two areas's in my left arm infected with cancer.

I saw an oncology consultant on 16 Sept. My treatment started on 22 Sept. 2014.
Since then I have had 118 chemotherapy treatments over six and a half years.
I once asked my consultant how much each treatment would have cost me if had to pay privately?
He said each would have cost me £6000 approx for just the actual treatment meaning without including his consultancy fees.
So let's do the maths - 118 x £6000 = £708,000 (without consultancy fees) .

On top of that, I've had an operation for a strangulated hernia and on another occasion, I spent a month in hospital being treated with a sepsis infection.

At the time I was diagnosed I was a self-employed businessman.

So what would have happened had I lived in the US?

That depends...but you are welcome.....because the United States protects Australia and New Zealand, they can afford to spend money on their social welfare system...that is also collapsing...

Waiting for better care: why Australia’s hospitals and health care are failing

Australians are waiting too long for elective surgery, dental care and treatment for mental health. It’s no wonder health is a vote-changer.

theconversation.com

 

[2aguy]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

.


According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

We are not beholden to you for anything. Spend your own money on bombs and dont dictate to us what we spend our money on.

Then build your own military and float your own ships.......and pay up for NATO too...

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

Well, I don't know about 'Bill' but I can give you a 'first-hand' account of my own personal experience of how my diagnosis was acted upon and treated.
On the 28 Aug 2014, I was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 months without treatment and no more than 6 months with treatment to live. The cancer that had started in my bowel had spread to my liver of which 85% was infected with hundreds of thousands of tumors. Also my lungs were infected in two areas and there as also two areas's in my left arm infected with cancer.

I saw an oncology consultant on 16 Sept. My treatment started on 22 Sept. 2014.
Since then I have had 118 chemotherapy treatments over six and a half years.
I once asked my consultant how much each treatment would have cost me if had to pay privately?
He said each would have cost me £6000 approx for just the actual treatment meaning without including his consultancy fees.
So let's do the maths - 118 x £6000 = £708,000 (without consultancy fees) .

On top of that, I've had an operation for a strangulated hernia and on another occasion, I spent a month in hospital being treated with a sepsis infection.

At the time I was diagnosed I was a self-employed businessman.

So what would have happened had I lived in the US?

I am glad that the UK health care system has helped you, really. I think that the vast majority of people would afford such treatment if they were to pay for it.

I cant say about the US. I don't live there.

The vast majority of people in the UK would not be able to pay £708,000 plus consultancy costs plus their living expenses for six and half years. Most live on credit.
The point is everybody is entitled to the same treatment whether they are a low-paid gig economy worker or someone who is unemployed.

 

[ESay]

You should adopt our system so that you join the civilised group of nations

If say Bill needs a medical treatment that is worth 10 thousand pounds, will the UK provide that to him? And how long should he wait?

Well, I don't know about 'Bill' but I can give you a 'first-hand' account of my own personal experience of how my diagnosis was acted upon and treated.
On the 28 Aug 2014, I was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 months without treatment and no more than 6 months with treatment to live. The cancer that had started in my bowel had spread to my liver of which 85% was infected with hundreds of thousands of tumors. Also my lungs were infected in two areas and there as also two areas's in my left arm infected with cancer.

I saw an oncology consultant on 16 Sept. My treatment started on 22 Sept. 2014.
Since then I have had 118 chemotherapy treatments over six and a half years.
I once asked my consultant how much each treatment would have cost me if had to pay privately?
He said each would have cost me £6000 approx for just the actual treatment meaning without including his consultancy fees.
So let's do the maths - 118 x £6000 = £708,000 (without consultancy fees) .

On top of that, I've had an operation for a strangulated hernia and on another occasion, I spent a month in hospital being treated with a sepsis infection.

At the time I was diagnosed I was a self-employed businessman.

So what would have happened had I lived in the US?

I am glad that the UK health care system has helped you, really. I think that the vast majority of people would afford such treatment if they were to pay for it.

I cant say about the US. I don't live there.

The vast majority of people in the UK would not be able to pay £708,000 plus consultancy costs plus their living expenses for six and half years. Most live on credit.
The point is everybody is entitled to the same treatment whether they are a low-paid gig economy worker or someone who is unemployed.

Yes, of course, they wouldn't. It was a misspelling. Sorry.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

.


According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

We are not beholden to you for anything. Spend your own money on bombs and dont dictate to us what we spend our money on.

Then build your own military and float your own ships.......and pay up for NATO too...

Dickhead, the rest of the world does not share your military ambitions.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The child must have belonged to a class of persons to have medical care withheld.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.......the NHS is getting worse and worse, and now that the U.S. won't be paying their bills, the U.K. is about to really see what government healthcare is all about...

8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, the youngest victim of the jihadist terror bombing of an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, could have survived with better care, according to medical experts.

The US isn't paying the UK's bills.

On top of the 25% who can't afford medical care in for profit health care in this country, hundreds of thousands die from medical mistakes here.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

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According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.

Moron....the British can't field an army, can't float their ships.....we protect them. It is American innovation and medical innovation that gives them their standard of living.......without the U.S. paying their bills they would have folded the NHS decades ago.

We are not beholden to you for anything. Spend your own money on bombs and dont dictate to us what we spend our money on.

Then build your own military and float your own ships.......and pay up for NATO too...

Dickhead, the rest of the world does not share your military ambitions.

We don't have military ambitions...we simply pay to keep you and the other Europeans from killing each other, and we used to keep Russia and China from stomping on you........you are on your own now...you might want to invest in a Russian and Chinese language book.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The child must have belonged to a class of persons to have medical care withheld.

Or somebody made an error you fucking clown.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The child must have belonged to a class of persons to have medical care withheld.

Or somebody made an error you fucking clown.

Nope. Britian has thrown its honor to ravening wolves.

 

[JoeB131]

Dickhead, the rest of the world does not share your military ambitions.

DickTiny never signed up for the military... he's just happy to send other people off to war.