New House GOP Rule Lets Lawmakers Fire Individual Federal Workers

[hadit]

you have to be able to keep going, until that happens or doesn't happen.

I've owned a business for 32 years. I'll keep going.

good for you; why do, less capital Capitalists, complain so much?

I don't get the question. First off, it's you that are making the noise, you asked and I've answered.

why do some fellow capitalists whine so much about regulations and taxes, instead of making like Good capitalists.

Why do you ask so many goddamn questions?

Because he doesn't have any depth beyond slogans.

 

[danielpalos]

Yet, businesses get started all the time. Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages, and realized gains from efficiency.

He was able to afford raising pay that much because he was already making a lot of money. Companies operating on a 3% profit margin cannot do that, but you knew that already because I already told you that.

Businesses get started all the time and fail all the time. I'll let you look up how many business startups fail in the first year.

Most startups fail due to under capitalization. just high hopes and pipe dreams and even hard work, may not be enough.

You've taken a good first step by acknowledging that your statement about businesses starting all the time is not a good foundation for your argument.

Yes, it is; businesses get started all the time. only lousy capitalists whine they can't make it.

Only capitalists start businesses. Socialists wait for someone else to do it, then demand a piece of action.

we have collectives, in California.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The PRIVATE sector.....Fewer public sector workers means revenue actually is spent on essentials.

I thought all people deserve jobs.

I hear McDonald's is hiring.

We need smaller government.

there is no unemployment problem, only underpayment under Any form of capitalism.

Ha ha.. the type of socialism that makes you orgasm is NEVER going to happen here. That is because your version of socialism is nothing more than THEFT

it isn't socialism. it is capitalism.

there is no unemployment problem, only underpayment under Any form of capitalism.

There is no such thing as "underpaid".....One accepts the terms and conditions at the onset of the employer/employee agreement.
Your premise states that the employee gets to say "do over"....

 

[danielpalos]

I thought all people deserve jobs.

I hear McDonald's is hiring.

We need smaller government.

there is no unemployment problem, only underpayment under Any form of capitalism.

Ha ha.. the type of socialism that makes you orgasm is NEVER going to happen here. That is because your version of socialism is nothing more than THEFT

it isn't socialism. it is capitalism.

there is no unemployment problem, only underpayment under Any form of capitalism.

There is no such thing as "underpaid".....One accepts the terms and conditions at the onset of the employer/employee agreement.
Your premise states that the employee gets to say "do over"....

yes, there is. underpayment is why not all jobs are filled, all the time. CEO jobs don't usually have that problem.

 

[hadit]

He was able to afford raising pay that much because he was already making a lot of money. Companies operating on a 3% profit margin cannot do that, but you knew that already because I already told you that.

Businesses get started all the time and fail all the time. I'll let you look up how many business startups fail in the first year.

Most startups fail due to under capitalization. just high hopes and pipe dreams and even hard work, may not be enough.

You've taken a good first step by acknowledging that your statement about businesses starting all the time is not a good foundation for your argument.

Yes, it is; businesses get started all the time. only lousy capitalists whine they can't make it.

Only capitalists start businesses. Socialists wait for someone else to do it, then demand a piece of action.

we have collectives, in California.

Are they for-profit businesses that meet a payroll, hire and fire people?

 

[danielpalos]

Most startups fail due to under capitalization. just high hopes and pipe dreams and even hard work, may not be enough.

You've taken a good first step by acknowledging that your statement about businesses starting all the time is not a good foundation for your argument.

Yes, it is; businesses get started all the time. only lousy capitalists whine they can't make it.

Only capitalists start businesses. Socialists wait for someone else to do it, then demand a piece of action.

we have collectives, in California.

Are they for-profit businesses that meet a payroll, hire and fire people?

not-for-profit business that meet a payroll and create jobs for gun lovers, as well.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Trump’s transition team has been asking for names of specific government employees.

WASHINGTON ― House Republicans resurrected a decades-old provision in their new rules package that allows lawmakers to lower the salary or eliminate the job of individual federal employees.

Rep. Morgan Griffith (R-Va.), a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, championed the arcane provision, called the Holman Rule for the Indiana congressman who created it in 1876, as a tool to allow lawmakers to make targeted spending reductions or eliminate positions they deem unnecessary. In an interview with The Washington Post, Griffith said he would like members to use the Holman Rule like a sniper rifle instead of like a shotgun.

Democratic lawmakers representing districts in the Capitol region, where many federal employees work, said in a statement that the rule would “undermine civil service employee protections by stripping away necessary safeguards.” Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) called the measure “the Armageddon Rule,” and said it’s “a backdoor way for Republicans to dismantle the federal workforce.”

Democrats also said they feared the rule gives Republicans the tools to root out individual federal workers who hold views or perform work that is not favored by the incoming administration. President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team reportedly asked for the names of individual Department of Energy employees who worked on the Paris climate accord.

“The Republican Rules package provides them with the surgical tools necessary to reach into the inner workings of the federal government and cut away each part and employee that runs afoul of their ideological agenda,” Connolly said in a statement. “This, coupled with the President-elect’s proposed federal hiring freeze and the nomination of individuals to head agencies they openly oppose, could be devastating to the critical mission of the federal government.”

Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) called the rule “political theatre.”

“With the inclusion of the Holman Rule in the House rules package, House Republicans have made it clear that they plan to continue their assault on our nation’s civil servants and to subject hardworking federal employees to the ideological and political whims of Congress,” Sarbanes said in a statement.

Congress has always held the power to appropriate or cut funds for executive-branch agencies. What makes the Holman Rule unique is that it allows individual members of Congress to cut the salaries or entirely eliminate the jobs of individual workers. These targeted cuts would override existing federal workplace protections.

More: New House GOP Rule Lets Lawmakers Fire Individual Federal Workers

I feel sorry for government workers who will now be subjected to this McCarthyism bullshit.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Better to do things by attrition.

The GOP should realize that one day...the tables will be turned.

 

[FA_Q2]

Better to do things by attrition.

The GOP should realize that one day...the tables will be turned.

And?

There is no tit for tat in this measure. Only one party expresses that they want a smaller, more efficient government (though I have seen no proof that they will do such a thing). This rule change does not help the democrats and it use would not be an issue for the right.

 

[Dschrute3]

More flooding from this OP. How many 'I hate Donald Trump' thread-starter posts is he or she up to today? Come on USMB, gotta put some limits on this flooding stuff. It's killing the Board.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Better to do things by attrition.

The GOP should realize that one day...the tables will be turned.

And?

There is no tit for tat in this measure. Only one party expresses that they want a smaller, more efficient government (though I have seen no proof that they will do such a thing). This rule change does not help the democrats and it use would not be an issue for the right.

The demos could wipe out gop held positions and create new ones.