National ID

[Shawnee_b]

If I remember right, when Asscrotches Patriot Act took effect we were ALL supposed to have a national ID. I asked officials about that "for now your driver lic is your ID." How long ago was that?

What do you think? I don't like govt at all but good or bad idea. I have read alot on both sides the issue

Unfortunately, It's time for a National ID | | The Federalist Press | Reliable Online Political News Service

WERE YOU AWARE THAT MOST NATIONS HAVE A NATIONAL ID?
It’s true. For a quick lesson in how many countries issue a National ID for their citizens, do a Google search for “national id” and click on images. Hundreds of nations issue ID cards for their citizens, to differentiate them from non-citizens and ensure that national benefits and rights are extended to their citizens, and that they are not removed as non-citizens.

 

[Coyote]

What are the arguments against it?

 

[Natural Citizen]

With National ID, freedom as we know it is officially dead.

Do yourselves a favor and read past legislation.

 

[Coyote]

With National ID, freedom as we know it is officially dead.

Do yourselves a favor and read past legislation.

How exactly?

 

[Coyote]

I should add - I have no strong opinion either way. I just don't see why it's so contentious.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What are the arguments against it?

It is not a presenter of an arguments job to list both for and against, just their position.

 

[Natural Citizen]

With National ID, freedom as we know it is officially dead.

Do yourselves a favor and read past legislation.

How exactly?

I've posted on the topic rather thoroughly and extensively during my time here. And I recall specifically saying that it'd be sold to the electorate in a bipartisan manner.

I'm not doing it again. My previous thought on it in the thread is pretty much all I have to say about it these days.

Democrats and Republicans are effectively on the same team when it comes to pumping out anti-liberty legislation and immigration is what they're gonna use to usher it in.

 

[skye]

I'm all for a National ID.

I have zero problems with it.

 

[progressive hunter]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

 

[Coyote]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

But I am already with my drivers license.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

SOOOO getting a drivers license, signing up for medicare or signing up to vote all make you NOT free?

 

[Jitss617]

Just Latino and black new immigrants

 

[skye]

I also have zero problems with ID to vote.

It's all good!

 

[progressive hunter]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

SOOOO getting a drivers license, signing up for medicare or signing up to vote all make you NOT free?

none of those are required,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

But I am already with my drivers license.

thats a choice,,,

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

SOOOO getting a drivers license, signing up for medicare or signing up to vote all make you NOT free?

none of those are required,,,

You said registering would make you not free. So I guess you don't vote and drive illegally?

 

[Coyote]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

But I am already with my drivers license.

thats a choice,,,

Not really...you need either a driver's license or a state issued non-drivers license as an ID for almost anything.

 

[progressive hunter]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

SOOOO getting a drivers license, signing up for medicare or signing up to vote all make you NOT free?

none of those are required,,,

You said registering would make you not free. So I guess you don't vote and drive illegally?

those are not required,,,

 

[skye]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

SOOOO getting a drivers license, signing up for medicare or signing up to vote all make you NOT free?

Exactly!

What's the problem? none

 

[progressive hunter]

What are the arguments against it?

when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,

But I am already with my drivers license.

thats a choice,,,

Not really...you need either a driver's license or a state issued non-drivers license as an ID for almost anything.

not to just exist,,,