My Rotti Diamond, for the first time seen her reflection in a mirror!

[ThatDude30]

it didn't take her to realize that it was her.

You're anthropomorphizing. Household pets lack the acuity it takes to recognize it is they which they see in a mirror. They do, however, have the sentience to realize the image in the mirror is not reacting to them and is no threat to them, thus why they stop "fussing" about the image they see there. They realize it makes no sound and has no smell that indicates it's a creature about which they need be concerned.

• What Do Animals See in the Mirror?
  
• List of Animals That Have Passed the Mirror Test - Animal Cognition
  
• https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/mirror_test.htm
  
• What Mirrors Tell Us About Animal Minds

To be sure, Diamond does see something in the mirror. To tell whether Diamond realizes she's seeing herself, shave a small patch of the hair on the top of her head and then observe whether she uses the mirror so she can see that part of her head in it. She will surely be aware that she's less warm on the spot you shaved, but will she realize that it's she she's seeing in the mirror is wholly different matter and level of cognition. Can you train her to look in the mirror to see the shaved spot? Perhaps, dogs can be taught to do quite a lot of things, but that's not the same thing as their abstractly knowing what they're doing and why, to say nothing of using tools, which is what a mirror and its reflections are to creatures that are self-recognizing.

Whatever dude, I used to have two dogs that played with the floor mirror every morning. Seeing each other in it, playing around.

And in what respect is that anecdote probative about the nature and extent of canine cognition, specifically their capacity for ocular self-recognition?

It has been established that canines have olfactory self-recognition capability, but it's not been established they are ocularly self-aware, which is what they'd need to have to recognize that it is themselves, not something other than themselves, they see in a mirror.

It's not surprising that they self-cognizant in one sensory dimension and not in another. Most people would not, for instance, know themselves by smell or auditorily, though humans often recognize others by sound or smell.

They know it's themselves and play like some do shadow-boxing you over-wordy so-and-so.

So you say.....

I understand there really isn't any way to prove that they actually know its themselves they see in the mirror, but by their actions I think she knows. I will stand right next to her in front of the mirror and she looks at me through the mirror and understands I am what she sees next to her. I always catch looking at herself in the mirror and while she is looking at the mirror if someone or another pet becomes visible in the mirror she reacts and looks back and back at the mirror. So I do think that they know.

 

[strollingbones]

my dobie did that...saw himself in the dishwasher and went nuts...he was only 8 or so weeks old...he barked and wiggled then he puppy peed

 

[ThatDude30]

my dobie did that...saw himself in the dishwasher and went nuts...he was only 8 or so weeks old...he barked and wiggled then he puppy peed

Puppies get so excited they puppy pee. lol

 

[ThatDude30]

my dobie did that...saw himself in the dishwasher and went nuts...he was only 8 or so weeks old...he barked and wiggled then he puppy peed

Puppies get so excited they puppy pee. lol

I always wanted a dobie, how much do they go for? I want one that got its papers stating its full blooded and shows blood line.

 

[strollingbones]

Dude as much as you want ...a solid stock from Germany can run ten or more...my last one was a blue a fucking bag of recessive genes...popped a knee that ran three...but I am too old too start over with a pup...I lost Thor a few years ago..spinal issues one day he fell and would even try to get up...I knew it was over then..I now have a jack / Satan mix..small but fierce

 

[ThatDude30]

Dude as much as you want ...a solid stock from Germany can run ten or more...my last one was a blue a fucking bag of recessive genes...popped a knee that ran three...but I am too old too start over with a pup...I lost Thor a few years ago..spinal issues one day he fell and would even try to get up...I knew it was over then..I now have a jack / Satan mix..small but fierce

Aw sorry bout thor man. But I know they can get expensive. I paid 3,400 for Diamond she is a solid germen rotti.y

 

[strollingbones]

germans do it right...when the hip thing came know they put down all dobies with it..

 

[strollingbones]

i just dont have the stamina for the first two years of training....

 

[ThatDude30]

germans do it right...when the hip thing came know they put down all dobies with it..

What exactly went wrong with the hip? I heard bigger dogs like dobies, and rottis could have hip problems?