What's new
US Message Board 🦅 Political Discussion Forum

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Must-pass defense policy legislation hit a fresh snag as GOP blocked the bill, with no clear path to resolving a partisan dispute over amendments

Crepitus

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2018
Messages
57,599
Reaction score
19,398
Points
2,260
So, the way I understand it, the hold up is not about what is in it, but what riders for sanction should be added to it, so the riders have become a poison pill, just to keep it from being passed. Typical :spank:

In case any of the partisans around here on either side, actually give a damn what's actually in it, here is a link to it. It's about 40 pages if reading scares anybody.
It does everything from set troop levels to oay for maintenance on the nuclear stockpile.

You know what it doesn't do?

Set sanctions.
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
I am not angry at all, what ever gave you that idea?
So calling people morons is just your usual manner of speech?

Plus you didnt answer my question

Is the bill that perfect to you?
 

Golfing Gator

Diamond Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2017
Messages
59,006
Reaction score
11,120
Points
2,070
Location
Midwest of America
So calling people morons is just your usual manner of speech?

Pretty much. I call it like I see it. Not really one to mince words.

Plus you didnt answer my question

Is the bill that perfect to you?

No bill is every prefect. Sanctions for a pipeline do not belong in the NDAA. As has been pointed out the NDAA has been used by the duopoly for far too long to include things that have nothing to do with National Defense.
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
Pretty much. I call it like I see it. Not really one to mince words.
Then you must be pretty sure of yourself as the infallible and all-knowing Tweener

Lucky you, huh?
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
No bill is every prefect. Sanctions for a pipeline do not belong in the NDAA. As has been pointed out the NDAA has been used by the duopoly for far too long to include things that have nothing to do with National Defense.
Its how the sausage is made in the swamp

Washington will never meet your impossible standards

But there are more than 20 amendments having nothing to do with the pipeline that schumer does not want to have a vote on

He has cleverly fooled you by waiting till the last possible minute so that you will demand action NOW!

And call anyone that does not agree with you a moron
 

Golfing Gator

Diamond Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2017
Messages
59,006
Reaction score
11,120
Points
2,070
Location
Midwest of America
And call anyone that does not agree with you a moron

Not at all. A lot of people disagree with me and are quite intelligent.

I only call morons a moron. You know like the people that thinks the US has the right to tell other countries how to run their country
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
I only call morons a moron. You know like the people that thinks the US has the right to tell other countries how to run their country
You do know that the pipeline is not universally supported by the Euro’s?

Or do you?

My guess is you spent about 3 minutes studying the bill and the issues surrounding the pipeline

And that's not nearly enough time to be so sure of yourself as to be calling people names
 

g5000

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2011
Messages
100,145
Reaction score
19,992
Points
2,180
So, the way I understand it, the hold up is not about what is in it, but what riders for sanction should be added to it, so the riders have become a poison pill, just to keep it from being passed. Typical :spank:

In case any of the partisans around here on either side, actually give a damn what's actually in it, here is a link to it. It's about 40 pages if reading scares anybody.
I'm not a Trumpie, so links which are longer than a tweet don't bother me. :D

There is nothing about the amendments in that link. I'll see if I can find something.

But here's an interesting line item in the Executive Summary which should stir some shit:

Requires defense contractors to publicly disclose employee training materials for review and identification of Critical Race Theory or similar theoretical instruction.
 

Golfing Gator

Diamond Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2017
Messages
59,006
Reaction score
11,120
Points
2,070
Location
Midwest of America
You do know that the pipeline is not universally supported by the Euro’s?

Or do you?

I do not care who supports it. The countries that it is going between support it, that is all that matters. What right do we have to tell a different country where they can and cannot by their NG?

Would you be ok with a different country trying to do that to us?

And it is not just this one pipeline, we do this same shit all the time.

My guess is you spent about 3 minutes studying the bill and the issues surrounding the pipeline

And you would be wrong as normal. I know all about the pipe line.
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
Requires defense contractors to publicly disclose employee training materials for review and identification of Critical Race Theory or similar theoretical instruction.
That is interesting

What does that have to do with equipping the troops for combat?
 

Mac-7

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2019
Messages
34,527
Reaction score
23,903
Points
2,865
Would you be ok with a different country trying to do that to us?
I think they would if they could

If the germans dont have enough energy why dont they just build more of those magical windmills that we hear so much about?

To me it makes sense to limit russian influence in the region
 

g5000

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2011
Messages
100,145
Reaction score
19,992
Points
2,180
This link contains all the amendments submitted for FY22 NDAA: H.R. 4350–National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022

Some interesting bits:

Burgess (TX), Posey (FL), Rice, Tom (SC), Hice (GA), Boebert, Lauren (CO), Balderson (OH), Davidson (OH), Van Duyne (TX) - Republican
Requires the Commission on Afghanistan to include in its report all advice or counsel provided to the President by DoD personnel or other relevant Administration advisors on the withdrawal of Armed Forces from Afghanistan.


Greene (GA), Biggs (AZ), Good (VA), Rosendale (MT), Miller, Mary (IL), Harshbarger (TN), Mooney (WV), Babin (TX) - Republican
Strikes sections (b), (d), and (g) of Section 513, language redefining the purpose of the selective service and expanding the draft to women. Keeps remaining sections of 513 on solemnity of military service, maintaining the health of the selective service system, and due process rights.


Payne, Jr. (NJ), Brown (MD) - Democrat
Prevents any veteran convicted of a felony related to the January 6 insurrection from receiving veteran funerary honors.


Roy (TX), Posey (FL), Boebert, Lauren (CO), Davidson (OH), Grothman (WI) - Republican
Prohibits federal funds from being used to require a member of the Armed Forces to receive the COVID-19 vaccine.



Roy (TX), Posey (FL), Van Duyne (TX) - Republican
Prohibits the purchase of public or private real estate located in the United States by members of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).


Roy (TX), Boebert, Lauren (CO), Van Duyne (TX), Grothman (WI), Steube (FL) - Republican
Prohibits federal funds from being used to establish the position of Chief Diversity Officers or Senior Advisors for Diversity and Inclusion.


There are 860 damned amendments submitted. The ones I quoted above were in the first 60. Then I jumped to the amendment (number 631) which is the subject of this thread:

McCaul (TX), Kaptur (OH), Kinzinger (IL), Gallego (AZ), Wilson, Joe (SC), Quigley (IL), Fitzpatrick (PA), Levin, Andy (MI), Turner (OH), Cohen (TN), Pfluger (TX), Jackson Lee (TX), Meijer (MI), Harris (MD), McKinley (WV), Costa (CA), Van Duyne (TX) - Republican
Authorizes new mandatory sanctions on foreign entities and individuals responsible for the planning, construction, and operation of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Repeals the national interest waiver for sanctions required by existing law related to the pipeline project.
 

busybee01

Gold Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2017
Messages
23,924
Reaction score
5,720
Points
290
1. Xiden approved the Nord Stream 2 pipeline so Putin could sell gas to Germany.
2. That gave Putin a ton of cash to modernize his military, much of which is sitting on the Ukraine's border.
3. That's what this has to do with our military. Do you want to face a more powerful Russian military, or a less powerful Russian military?

Putin got a boatload of cash when Trump brokered a deal with OPEC+ to cut oil production and raise oil prices. Russia is a member of OPEC+. Nord Stream was mostly done while Trump was in office.

As usual you place the blame for Trump's failures on Biden.
 

theHawk

Registered Conservative
Joined
Sep 20, 2005
Messages
39,544
Reaction score
30,682
Points
2,905
Location
Arizona

theHawk

Registered Conservative
Joined
Sep 20, 2005
Messages
39,544
Reaction score
30,682
Points
2,905
Location
Arizona
You are worse than lame. You are plain stupid. Using our troops for political pawns for unrelated amendments.
How are troops being used as “political pawns”?
 

kyzr

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 14, 2009
Messages
21,550
Reaction score
13,265
Points
1,405
Location
The AL part of PA
Putin got a boatload of cash when Trump brokered a deal with OPEC+ to cut oil production and raise oil prices. Russia is a member of OPEC+. Nord Stream was mostly done while Trump was in office.

As usual you place the blame for Trump's failures on Biden.
Link please proving your 1st sentence. Sounds like a lie or TDS to me. Xiden is one disaster after another. He is always wrong. 2022 can't come fast enough.
 

White 6

Platinum Member
Gold Supporting Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2019
Messages
19,223
Reaction score
11,105
Points
1,140
I'm not a Trumpie, so links which are longer than a tweet don't bother me. :D

There is nothing about the amendments in that link. I'll see if I can find something.

But here's an interesting line item in the Executive Summary which should stir some shit:

Requires defense contractors to publicly disclose employee training materials for review and identification of Critical Race Theory or similar theoretical instruction.
Yes, I'm not a critical race training fan either.
 

USMB Server Goals

Total amount
$80.00
Goal
$350.00

Most reactions - Past 7 days

Forum List

Top