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This is the left's line on the Civil War, and why southerners fought. It is pure bullshit mixed with ignorance. 90% of southerners fought for ONE REASON >> because they found themselves under attack.Confederacy fought to maintain slavery and because they hated the USA.
As ignorant Tom Paine shows he knows nothing about the 19th century southerner, maybe I need to ask him again >> "What would you do with these blue suited guys shooting at YOU, blowing up your houses, and burning down your churches ? Offer them lollipops ?"
And I guess I need to repeat another earlier post too >> Most of what was fought by southerners in the Civil War has absolutely nothing to do with race. Many southerners in southern mountain states (VA, NC, SC, TN, GA, AL, AK), where slavery did not exist. They were many miles from slave-worked plantations, on the coastal plains of the South. They had no TV, radio, computers or much of any communication, and may have not even known that black people existed, let alone about slavery. You're not well informed, Tom Paine. Hope you're learning now.
You little conception of the Civil War is nothing but a tool painting, painted by liberals who want to hang a label of racist on every conservative, and/or anyone wearing a confederate flag hat, jacket etc. Some of these liberals are pushing an agenda. Other are duped suckers who eat up the propaganda.
Meanwhile, the real racists in 2020, are those supporting race-based Affirmative Action malicious, racial discrimination against whites. Here is the flag of RACISM >>
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Affirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
And racially discriminated, and continues to racially, illegally and immorally discriminate against Asians and Whites (including women).Affirmative Action WORKED
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
Which day will be lynching day?
BLM has nothing to do with Affirmative Action.Affirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
Well IF Affirmative Action worked then WHY are BLM bitching 24/7? Obviously if you go by them then Affirmative Action FAILED, the thing is completely racist anyhow, from what I have read about it it's weighted totally toward the Blacks to the exclusion of say Asians and Native Americans.
Prior to Affirmative Action, women were relegated to primarily teaching, nurses, secretarial, bank cashiers and beautician type jobs.And racially discriminated, and continues to racially, illegally and immorally discriminate against Asians and Whites (including women).Affirmative Action WORKED
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
AA has taken job opportunities away form WOMEN 100 times as much as it has ever helped them. With almost every discriminated against white man, there is discriminated against white wives, daughters, mothers.
Sure, AA works FOR BLACKS being the beneficiaries, while others are the victims - including Asians, Hispanics, Indians, etc. (like when I was racistly denied an assistantship at Memphis State University) All white WOMEN were denied, all Hispanics were denied, all Asians were denied. Only ones who got them, were blacks. Pure 100% racial discrimination.
Affirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
Confederacy fought to maintain slavery and because they hated the USA.Excellent one-way explanation defending censorship.You repeatedly misrepresent history and are repeatedly exposed doing so, so now your crybaby argument is that Southerners are “not being allowed“ to celebrate the “heritage of their ancestors.” First of all, even Americans raised in the Deep South are by no means all whites, and the heritage of white Southerners is not at all primarily embodied in the Confederacy.Or are you a faggot?
We Americans are lucky. We are free to choose and forge our own identities. Even outside the U.S. cultured people individually and collectively can and do make choices. Germans did not choose to define their heritage by the Third Reich, which lasted 3x longer than the Confederate Rebellion. Why are so many whites still attached to the Confederacy and the Confederate Flag? Mainly because for historical reasons it became associated with a hundred years of Jim Crow apartheid, and racism, and white supremacy, because it was tolerated — even supported — by our whole country.
Today, decades after the Civil Rights Movement forced the end of Jim Crow, it is perfectly natural that miopic reactionary “celebrations” of Confederate heritage be banned from our public squares, courtrooms, State Capitols, and from our military. State by state and county by county public authorities have voted to remove Confederate symbols and particularly controversial statues from public arenas. This is part of the democratic process and it is overwhelmingly appropriate and legitimate.
Personally, I look forward to the day when nobody “celebrates” the Confederate rebellion, or sees it as central to his identity. But that of course is up to each individual.
P.S. It would also be nice if you didn’t feel you have to end your “arguments” by asking opponents if they are “faggots.” Not very mature.
The confederacy fought for states’ rights and military officers led nobly.
Marxists like yourself only wish to apply selective views in order to justify consorship, revise history and thereby make Marxism easier to employ.
BLM has nothing to do with Affirmative Action.Affirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
Well IF Affirmative Action worked then WHY are BLM bitching 24/7? Obviously if you go by them then Affirmative Action FAILED, the thing is completely racist anyhow, from what I have read about it it's weighted totally toward the Blacks to the exclusion of say Asians and Native Americans.
It has to do with the senseless killing of unarmed blacks
Affirmative Action opened up OPPORTUNITYAffirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
I don't think you realize how degrading affirmative action is.
First, because you yourself are in fact engaging in bigotry. You are openly saying that black people are mentally incapable of achieving things without the help of you white people.
You do realize that you are engaging in Racism when you say that?
You are saying these lessor pathetic incompetent beings, need your help to succeed in life. That's about as racist as it gets.
Second, Affirmative Actions removes dignity from Black people. Because people who get jobs only because they are black, know it, and so does everyone else.
I've worked about 2 jobs where we had the token black, and everyone knew they were the token black, and the token blacks knew they were the token black.
There is nothing more humiliating than knowing that you are considered a necessary incompetent worker.
It's part of the reason why blacks have progressed economically at a slower rate after the civil rights movement, than they did before the civil rights movement.
Because even Blacks that are competent, now are viewed with suspicions.... are they actually good at what they do, or did they get here because of their skin?
That's just a fact. You can't really change it. Go read Thomas Sowells book, where he overheard students talking about professors, and saying the only reason a couple of them were on staff, is because they were black, not because they could teach.
That's reality. Affirmative action has damaged blacks in the work place. Not helped.
They HATED the USAConfederacy fought to maintain slavery and because they hated the USA.Excellent one-way explanation defending censorship.You repeatedly misrepresent history and are repeatedly exposed doing so, so now your crybaby argument is that Southerners are “not being allowed“ to celebrate the “heritage of their ancestors.” First of all, even Americans raised in the Deep South are by no means all whites, and the heritage of white Southerners is not at all primarily embodied in the Confederacy.Or are you a faggot?
We Americans are lucky. We are free to choose and forge our own identities. Even outside the U.S. cultured people individually and collectively can and do make choices. Germans did not choose to define their heritage by the Third Reich, which lasted 3x longer than the Confederate Rebellion. Why are so many whites still attached to the Confederacy and the Confederate Flag? Mainly because for historical reasons it became associated with a hundred years of Jim Crow apartheid, and racism, and white supremacy, because it was tolerated — even supported — by our whole country.
Today, decades after the Civil Rights Movement forced the end of Jim Crow, it is perfectly natural that miopic reactionary “celebrations” of Confederate heritage be banned from our public squares, courtrooms, State Capitols, and from our military. State by state and county by county public authorities have voted to remove Confederate symbols and particularly controversial statues from public arenas. This is part of the democratic process and it is overwhelmingly appropriate and legitimate.
Personally, I look forward to the day when nobody “celebrates” the Confederate rebellion, or sees it as central to his identity. But that of course is up to each individual.
P.S. It would also be nice if you didn’t feel you have to end your “arguments” by asking opponents if they are “faggots.” Not very mature.
The confederacy fought for states’ rights and military officers led nobly.
Marxists like yourself only wish to apply selective views in order to justify consorship, revise history and thereby make Marxism easier to employ.
They didn't like being dictated to, by the Federal Government, and they believed correctly, that they had a right to leave the Union.
What you call "the South", was hundreds of thousands of human beings, mostly CIVILIANS. mostly dirt poor, didn't own a slave, never saw one, and lucky if they owned a horse. Civil war battlefield photos show southern, barefoot civilians lying next to their rifles. They knew NOTHING WHATSOEVER about slavery or the Confederacy, and probably didn't even know black people existed.The South fought to defend the Confederacy
A nation formed to preserve slavery in their new nation forever.
This nation had 40 percent of its population in slavery. The Confederacy was built out of HATRED of the USA.
Why would any loyal American defend it?
BLM has nothing to do with Affirmative Action.Affirmative Action WORKEDAffirmative Action was a major success. All American families benefitted from it
ABSURD! Affirmative Action has been perhaps the # 1 ABOMINATION in American economics for 56 years. It is the # 1 racist discrimination, victimizing, by far, the largest number of people in America, and many, if not most, lives have been partially destroyed by it.
And just look at the hypocrisy of the despicable left, who supports this # 1 racism in America, all the while chanting against racism. To them, malicious racism is perfectly OK, as long as blacks are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims. This is America's # 1 DISGRACE, since the Vietnam War.
All whites and Asians who have had the lives ruined by this disaster, should be paid reparations$$$, directly from the pockets of all those who are guilty of pushing and supporting AA.
You are either the biggest LIAR or the biggest IDIOT in this forum.
It provided previously unobtainable job opportunities to minorities and WOMEN
Well IF Affirmative Action worked then WHY are BLM bitching 24/7? Obviously if you go by them then Affirmative Action FAILED, the thing is completely racist anyhow, from what I have read about it it's weighted totally toward the Blacks to the exclusion of say Asians and Native Americans.
It has to do with the senseless killing of unarmed blacks
No, they defended themselves from guys who were shooting at them. Would you say 1960's Vietnamese hated the USA ? They hardly knew of its existence, but they knew somebody was shooting at them. GET IT ?They HATED the USA
Why should we celebrate that?
What you call "the South", was hundreds of thousands of human beings, mostly CIVILIANS. mostly dirt poor, didn't own a slave, never saw one, and lucky if they owned a horse. Civil war battlefield photos show southern, barefoot civilians lying next to their rifles. They knew NOTHING WHATSOEVER about slavery or the Confederacy, and probably didn't even know black people existed.The South fought to defend the Confederacy
A nation formed to preserve slavery in their new nation forever.
This nation had 40 percent of its population in slavery. The Confederacy was built out of HATRED of the USA.
Why would any loyal American defend it?
The only thing they were defending, was their families, their homes, their towns. How many times does this need to be said, to get that into your dense heads ?
Some civilians in coastal plain areas (a small %) who managed to find out about the Confederacy, and joined it, upon receiving their uniforms (boots & all), were often heard saying" This is the best suit of clothes I've ever owned."
When leftists talk about the Civil War, all they do is repeat the mantra their masters program into them, and dupe them to. Lots of examples right here in this thread. Displays of ignorance.
No there isn't. And it's time whites like yourself stopped lying about it. So enjoy celebrating racism history month.I am sorry IM 2. Thereare other versions of the War between the States.The confederacy was not the United States so it did not have US political parties. And so we now have a republican deciding to honor racism with racist history month.
Np longer could white males GET ANY POSITIONS. AA closed up opportunity for them.Affirmative Action opened up OPPORTUNITY
No longer could you claim women or minorities were unsuited for certain positions because of who they were.
No longer could you reserve certain positions for white males
What you call "the South", was hundreds of thousands of human beings, mostly CIVILIANS. mostly dirt poor, didn't own a slave, never saw one, and lucky if they owned a horse. Civil war battlefield photos show southern, barefoot civilians lying next to their rifles. They knew NOTHING WHATSOEVER about slavery or the Confederacy, and probably didn't even know black people existed.The South fought to defend the Confederacy
A nation formed to preserve slavery in their new nation forever.
This nation had 40 percent of its population in slavery. The Confederacy was built out of HATRED of the USA.
Why would any loyal American defend it?
The only thing they were defending, was their families, their homes, their towns. How many times does this need to be said, to get that into your dense heads ?
Some civilians in coastal plain areas (a small %) who managed to find out about the Confederacy, and joined it, upon receiving their uniforms (boots & all), were often heard saying" This is the best suit of clothes I've ever owned."
When leftists talk about the Civil War, all they do is repeat the mantra their masters program into them, and dupe them to. Lots of examples right here in this thread. Displays of ignorance.
What I call “The South” had 40 percent of its population in bondage. The Confederacy was created to keep those people in bondage.
Not something worth celebrating
Nobody asked that 40 percent of that population or their descendants whether celebrating the Confederacy was appropriate. Nor did anyone in power care
They chose to wear the uniform of a nation formed out of HATRED of the USANo, they defended themselves from guys who were shooting at them. Would you say 1960's Vietnamese hated the USA ? They hardly knew of its existence, but they knew somebody was shooting at them. GET IT ?They HATED the USA
Why should we celebrate that?
BLM are airheads who are being duped by the Democratic party. Donations$$ being sent to BLM, are being diverted to the Democratic Party.BLM has ZERO to do with "the senseless killing of unarmed blacks" BLM are USING these random incidents as a means to an end OR what they THINK will be a means to an end. They do NOT give a SHIT about Blacks being gunned down or killed in other ways IF BLM DID then they would IMMEDIATELY and URGENTLY turn their FULL attention to address the SENSELESS killings of Blacks by OTHER Blacks WHICH is the cause of the MAJORITY of Blacks getting killed to begin with.
