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Misremembering Pearl Harbor

DudleySmith

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Just because you know nothing about the event other than what the government told you in fourth grade, doesn’t make it lunacy.

Ststists are a dumb lot.

Keep trying to appear sane for your peer group; we wouldn't want you to be a lonely nutjob.
 

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In this week's conversation with The International Forecaster, Bob Chapman reflects on the upcoming 70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor and discusses what that incident tells us about the world we are living in today. We also discuss the future of Europe, and the Ron Paul campaign.



Declassified Memo Hinted of 1941 Hawaii Attack​

Blockbuster book also reveals FDR scuttled war announcement against axis powers.
Yes, just ignore the other thousands of messages that didn't indicate any such thing and Wa La, some nutjoobs can twist maybe 8 of them into a Big Giant Conspiracy N Stuff 60 years after the fact.
 

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If you want to read a short but eye-opening book about Pearl Harbor, read General Henry Dozier Russell's book Pearl Harbor Story (Mercer University Press, 2001). General Russell was one of the members of the Army Pearl Harbor Board (APHB). He wrote the book in 1946, but it was not published until after he died, after the manuscript was discovered and submitted to Mercer University Press with the permission of Russell's surviving family members.

General Russell provided an inside, up-close look at the shameful machinations of FDR and his War Department cronies to scapegoat General Short and Admiral Kimmel, to suppress the APHB's evidence and findings, and to protect General Marshall from facing the condemnation that he so richly deserved for his lies and actions that directly contributed to the Pearl Harbor disaster.
 

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If you want to read a short but eye-opening book about Pearl Harbor, read General Henry Dozier Russell's book Pearl Harbor Story (Mercer University Press, 2001). General Russell was one of the members of the Army Pearl Harbor Board (APHB). He wrote the book in 1946, but it was not published until after he died, after the manuscript was discovered and submitted to Mercer University Press with the permission of Russell's surviving family members.

General Russell provided an inside, up-close look at the shameful machinations of FDR and his War Department cronies to scapegoat General Short and Admiral Kimmel, to suppress the APHB's evidence and findings, and to protect General Marshall from facing the condemnation that he so richly deserved for his lies and actions that directly contributed to the Pearl Harbor disaster.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.

You do know of course, dummies like DudleyDud and those like him refuse to learn. They think what they learned in third grade government school is the truth. They think learning is wrong. The state knows best.
 

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Thanks. I’ll check it out.

You do know of course, dummies like DudleyDud and those like him refuse to learn. They think what they learned in third grade government school is the truth. They think learning is wrong. The state knows best.

Dribbling again. Call your nurse.
 

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Thanks. I’ll check it out.

You do know of course, dummies like DudleyDud and those like him refuse to learn. They think what they learned in third grade government school is the truth. They think learning is wrong. The state knows best.

Interestingly, General Russell notes that the APHB's chairman, General Grunert, began the investigation with a strong bias against General Short because he accepted the Roosevelt administration's claim that Short had been derelict in his duty. But, as the investigation proceeded and clear evidence of foul play in Washington emerged, Grunert changed his mind.
 

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Another valuable piece of information from General Russell's book is Russell's observations about what a lying snake Henry Clausen was. Clausen later wrote the book that has become the bible of traditionalists, Pearl Harbor: Final Judgment. In his book, Clausen, among other things, denies that FDR saw the 24 September bomb-plot message (the JCC established that he saw it) and denies the very existence of the "East Wind Rain" execute message (even though three senior officers confirmed they saw it, and even though Costello and Pineau discovered message no. 7001, which is identified in the message annotation as having been the Winds execute message).
 

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