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[2aguy]

Picking the definition doesn't change how many mass shootings occurred.

This is an outright lie.

Mother Jones:
Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

Using this standard, there has been nowhere near 400+ mass shootings in the US since 1776, much less in 2019.

Obama had to lower it to 3 killed in order to create a bigger number...and even with that.....10 in 2019.......in a country of over 320 million people....

 

[M14 Shooter]

Picking the definition doesn't change how many mass shootings occurred.

This is an outright lie.

Mother Jones:
Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

Using this standard, there has been nowhere near 400+ mass shootings in the US since 1776, much less in 2019.

Obama had to lower it to 3 killed in order to create a bigger number...and even with that.....10 in 2019.......in a country of over 320 million people....

It should be no surprise anti-gun loons want the largest number they can come up with.

 

[okfine]

Your anecdotal whining cant disguise the fact that Germany is still a lot safer than the US. All of Western Europe is safer. Why is that gun nut ?

No, actually, it isn't........your immigrant drug gangs are becoming more and more dangerous.....and if you stay out of democrat party controlled cities....you are as safe if not safer here in the United States....

You keep mistaking guns with values and culture......German culture in the 1930s and 40 murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children...more than our criminals have murdered with guns......you guys just liked having goverment do the murdering for you.

And Britain...again, more illegal guns flooding your country, the drug gangs are becoming more violent......you are facing more violence yet sit there and pretend you are immune to it.

Germany would need about a dozen of these atrocities a day to match the US . Of course you have your freedom to get shot every day.

No......in 2019 we had 10 mass public shootings...in a country of over 320 million people with over 600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense....

10

Meanwhile...those armed citizens save lives 1.1 million times a year, according to our Centers for Disease Control Research....

Can you do that math?

Britain....didn't have many mass public shootings before they banned guns.....and they still don't have that many. Banning guns didn't change the rate of mass public shootings in Britain.....it was a pointless act.

Meanwhile...in the United States...

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

And good luck isn't gun control working.........

Britain......

Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.

Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

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.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

The 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
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Here is the updat, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?


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British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.

Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.

As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.

According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.

Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.

The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”

He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.

====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'


15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.

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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.

10 mass shootings? You are SO WRONG.

"There were 434 mass shootings in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averaged 1.19 mass shootings per day. In these shootings, 1,643 people were injured and 517 died, for a total of 2,160 victims"

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

The difference...the Wikidpedia link doesn't even exclude shootings where no one was killed...that is how bogus that source is...

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

--Five people were wounded by gunfire outside a night club, with an additional three injured by the resulting building damage and chaos. The shooting occurred after an altercation escalated out onto the street.[17]

--One person was killed and three injured in a shooting outside a bar, after an earlier argument in a restaurant.[19]

No one was killed....and it was crime related...

Now...gang related.....for sure..

--Thirteen people were shot at a party that was held to memorialize a victim of an earlier shooting, at least one was a teenager.[23]

--One person was killed and six injured in an apartment complex after a drive-by shooting.[25]

As I pointed out.......you are listing gang and other criminal activity, even when no one is killed, as mass public shootings......intentionally lying to uninformed people, trying to make it look like mass public shootings are common...when they are the rarest of rare events.

If you are not a criminal...if you do not have a criminal in your family...if you do not live in a democrat party controlled voting district...you do not have to fear these shootings......

10 actual mass public shootings in a country of over 320 million people...that is a number you can't use to push gun control...which is why you mix up gang shootings with mass public shootings.

Open the link provided and listen to Fat Donnie talk about shootings. It was in 2019. Do you agree with him, or his telling a lie? About 15 seconds into the video, listen to the the number he says.

This Is The Number Of U.S. Mass Shootings So Far In 2019 | HuffPost

 

[2aguy]

No, actually, it isn't........your immigrant drug gangs are becoming more and more dangerous.....and if you stay out of democrat party controlled cities....you are as safe if not safer here in the United States....

You keep mistaking guns with values and culture......German culture in the 1930s and 40 murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children...more than our criminals have murdered with guns......you guys just liked having goverment do the murdering for you.

And Britain...again, more illegal guns flooding your country, the drug gangs are becoming more violent......you are facing more violence yet sit there and pretend you are immune to it.

Germany would need about a dozen of these atrocities a day to match the US . Of course you have your freedom to get shot every day.

No......in 2019 we had 10 mass public shootings...in a country of over 320 million people with over 600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense....

10

Meanwhile...those armed citizens save lives 1.1 million times a year, according to our Centers for Disease Control Research....

Can you do that math?

Britain....didn't have many mass public shootings before they banned guns.....and they still don't have that many. Banning guns didn't change the rate of mass public shootings in Britain.....it was a pointless act.

Meanwhile...in the United States...

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

And good luck isn't gun control working.........

Britain......

Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.

Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

---------------------------




.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

The 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
=======



Here is the updat, the original is below..

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?


-------------

British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.

Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.

As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.

According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.

Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.

The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”

He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.

====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'


15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.

=======




'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.

10 mass shootings? You are SO WRONG.

"There were 434 mass shootings in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averaged 1.19 mass shootings per day. In these shootings, 1,643 people were injured and 517 died, for a total of 2,160 victims"

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

The difference...the Wikidpedia link doesn't even exclude shootings where no one was killed...that is how bogus that source is...

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019 - Wikipedia

--Five people were wounded by gunfire outside a night club, with an additional three injured by the resulting building damage and chaos. The shooting occurred after an altercation escalated out onto the street.[17]

--One person was killed and three injured in a shooting outside a bar, after an earlier argument in a restaurant.[19]

No one was killed....and it was crime related...

Now...gang related.....for sure..

--Thirteen people were shot at a party that was held to memorialize a victim of an earlier shooting, at least one was a teenager.[23]

--One person was killed and six injured in an apartment complex after a drive-by shooting.[25]

As I pointed out.......you are listing gang and other criminal activity, even when no one is killed, as mass public shootings......intentionally lying to uninformed people, trying to make it look like mass public shootings are common...when they are the rarest of rare events.

If you are not a criminal...if you do not have a criminal in your family...if you do not live in a democrat party controlled voting district...you do not have to fear these shootings......

10 actual mass public shootings in a country of over 320 million people...that is a number you can't use to push gun control...which is why you mix up gang shootings with mass public shootings.

Open the link provided and listen to Fat Donnie talk about shootings. It was in 2019. Do you agree with him, or his telling a lie? About 15 seconds into the video, listen to the the number he says.

This Is The Number Of U.S. Mass Shootings So Far In 2019 | HuffPost

Why do you think I would take Trump's word on shootings, most of his life he was a democrat.......and he doesn't pay attention to the actual issues for the 2nd Amendment.....

You are using gang shootings because you can't stand the fact that there were only 10 mass public shootings in 2019...it is hard to push gun control with that number...so you lie, and add in every other criminal shooting you can find...as do your links......

Mother Jones uses the actual definition of Mass Public Shooting....and there were 10 in 2019 with a total of 73 killed.....and when ladders kill more people than mass public shooters do, you have to lie about mass public shootings for them to be useful in your gun grabbing...