Military-Industrial Complex | Schiff & Co. Making Bank In Ukraine

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

He can investigate whenever he likes. Why hasn't he? Could it be...this is a steaming pile of bullshit?

 

[iceberg]

time for all that to end, don't you think?

wishful thinking, we're the world's police ,and cater to both sides of any conflict, since WW2, despite Ike's warning.

or is trump so evil you'd rather he goes and the very core of assholes stealing our tax dollars keep on as usual?

DJT is merely a bit player , powerless puppet like all past potus' juxtaposed to the 'aholes' you speak of , who are apolitical globalists who've no allegiance to the USA, yet have every incumbent congresscritter on a choke leash

~S~

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

it's not that i DISAGREE - i just don't want to do a "sigh, oh well" and take it as the way it always will be.

 

[evenflow1969]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

hey, if any R's are in on this, take 'em down also. but so far the harder the left pushes to get to trump, the more we see the real reasons why they are doing the full court press. they WERE laundering money for blimps never intended to be produced.

i simply don't understand how anyone on the left regardless of their emotional state on trump, can see all this and still think trump has done MORE than everything we're finding out.

if anyone is going to continue to force this onto trump then please explain this scenario with more than "fake news" as well.

LOL!!!!!! Wow what a dumbfuck!!!!!!! The chairman of that commitee was Hal Rogers a republican from kentucky and the retard repugs held a majority on the commitee. It was your party that did the whole thing!!!!!!!!! hilarious

So. . . your contention is. . .when it comes to war for imperial ambition, that there is somehow a qualitative difference between a neo-con and a neo-lib, is that it?

My contention is that the author of this op blames this horrible legislation on the left when in fact it was the right that cast the votes and passed it !!!!!1 That is hillarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where the fuck you came up with your comeback IDK but I am laughing hard!

 

[iceberg]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

hey, if any R's are in on this, take 'em down also. but so far the harder the left pushes to get to trump, the more we see the real reasons why they are doing the full court press. they WERE laundering money for blimps never intended to be produced.

i simply don't understand how anyone on the left regardless of their emotional state on trump, can see all this and still think trump has done MORE than everything we're finding out.

if anyone is going to continue to force this onto trump then please explain this scenario with more than "fake news" as well.

LOL!!!!!! Wow what a dumbfuck!!!!!!! The chairman of that commitee was Hal Rogers a republican from kentucky and the retard repugs held a majority on the commitee. It was your party that did the whole thing!!!!!!!!! hilarious

great - then take them down also. i'm not after left vs right and GO. i'm after right vs. wrong. legal vs illegal. if someone on either side broke laws, laundered money and so forth, take 'em down. the protections for criminals needs to end and i'm not going after ONE SIDE.

i want 'em all gone if possible.

 

[evenflow1969]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

hey, if any R's are in on this, take 'em down also. but so far the harder the left pushes to get to trump, the more we see the real reasons why they are doing the full court press. they WERE laundering money for blimps never intended to be produced.

i simply don't understand how anyone on the left regardless of their emotional state on trump, can see all this and still think trump has done MORE than everything we're finding out.

if anyone is going to continue to force this onto trump then please explain this scenario with more than "fake news" as well.

LOL!!!!!! Wow what a dumbfuck!!!!!!! The chairman of that commitee was Hal Rogers a republican from kentucky and the retard repugs held a majority on the commitee. It was your party that did the whole thing!!!!!!!!! hilarious

great - then take them down also. i'm not after left vs right and GO. i'm after right vs. wrong. legal vs illegal. if someone on either side broke laws, laundered money and so forth, take 'em down. the protections for criminals needs to end and i'm not going after ONE SIDE.

i want 'em all gone if possible.

Thank you I agree!!! Fuck left and right! Wrong is wrong. That being said what they did was not illegal it was done in the light of day according to the law. What we need to do is vote them out and change the law so stupid shit like that can not happen again. Then when the law sais you can not do that then we send them to jail for it. Lets try and take the time to figure out those realy responsible before casting stones and act accordingly. The people who voted for this should be unemployed! It gives my heart joy to see some one willing to for go the R or D in front of the name and look at the legislation it self. Fuck R or D

 

[iceberg]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

hey, if any R's are in on this, take 'em down also. but so far the harder the left pushes to get to trump, the more we see the real reasons why they are doing the full court press. they WERE laundering money for blimps never intended to be produced.

i simply don't understand how anyone on the left regardless of their emotional state on trump, can see all this and still think trump has done MORE than everything we're finding out.

if anyone is going to continue to force this onto trump then please explain this scenario with more than "fake news" as well.

LOL!!!!!! Wow what a dumbfuck!!!!!!! The chairman of that commitee was Hal Rogers a republican from kentucky and the retard repugs held a majority on the commitee. It was your party that did the whole thing!!!!!!!!! hilarious

great - then take them down also. i'm not after left vs right and GO. i'm after right vs. wrong. legal vs illegal. if someone on either side broke laws, laundered money and so forth, take 'em down. the protections for criminals needs to end and i'm not going after ONE SIDE.

i want 'em all gone if possible.

Thank you I agree!!! Fuck left and right! Wrong is wrong. That being said what they did was not illegal it was done in the light of day according to the law. What we need to do is vote them out and change the law so stupid shit like that can not happen again. Then when the law sais you can not do that then we send them to jail for it. Lets try and take the time to figure out those realy responsible before casting stones and act accordingly. The people who voted for this should be unemployed! It gives my heart joy to see some one willing to for go the R or D in front of the name and look at the legislation it self. Fuck R or D

pretty sure money laundering is illegal regardless of their balls to do it in the light of day.

 

[sparky]

Fuck R or D

start reading up on the CFR (thx Mr B) , and you'll find how insignificant 'party' really can be here ~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

hey, if any R's are in on this, take 'em down also. but so far the harder the left pushes to get to trump, the more we see the real reasons why they are doing the full court press. they WERE laundering money for blimps never intended to be produced.

i simply don't understand how anyone on the left regardless of their emotional state on trump, can see all this and still think trump has done MORE than everything we're finding out.

if anyone is going to continue to force this onto trump then please explain this scenario with more than "fake news" as well.

LOL!!!!!! Wow what a dumbfuck!!!!!!! The chairman of that commitee was Hal Rogers a republican from kentucky and the retard repugs held a majority on the commitee. It was your party that did the whole thing!!!!!!!!! hilarious

So. . . your contention is. . .when it comes to war for imperial ambition, that there is somehow a qualitative difference between a neo-con and a neo-lib, is that it?

My contention is that the author of this op blames this horrible legislation on the left when in fact it was the right that cast the votes and passed it !!!!!1 That is hillarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where the fuck you came up with your comeback IDK but I am laughing hard!

If you really knew what was going on in D.C., this response would make perfect sense.

 

[MisterBeale]

time for all that to end, don't you think?

wishful thinking, we're the world's police ,and cater to both sides of any conflict, since WW2, despite Ike's warning.

or is trump so evil you'd rather he goes and the very core of assholes stealing our tax dollars keep on as usual?

DJT is merely a bit player , powerless puppet like all past potus' juxtaposed to the 'aholes' you speak of , who are apolitical globalists who've no allegiance to the USA, yet have every incumbent congresscritter on a choke leash

~S~

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

it's not that i DISAGREE - i just don't want to do a "sigh, oh well" and take it as the way it always will be.

Best we can do is observe, point out the corruption, and educate our fellow citizens. Someday, perhaps, a change will come.

It is dreadfully hard to compete with the propaganda organs of mass corporate media and the social conditioning of public education and social media.

Only when what folks are taught, is completely not in accordance with what they observe, will things begin to change.

 

[sparky]

I can be taught......even my wife sezs so....~S~

 

[iceberg]

time for all that to end, don't you think?

wishful thinking, we're the world's police ,and cater to both sides of any conflict, since WW2, despite Ike's warning.

or is trump so evil you'd rather he goes and the very core of assholes stealing our tax dollars keep on as usual?

DJT is merely a bit player , powerless puppet like all past potus' juxtaposed to the 'aholes' you speak of , who are apolitical globalists who've no allegiance to the USA, yet have every incumbent congresscritter on a choke leash

~S~

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

it's not that i DISAGREE - i just don't want to do a "sigh, oh well" and take it as the way it always will be.

Best we can do is observe, point out the corruption, and educate our fellow citizens. Someday, perhaps, a change will come.

It is dreadfully hard to compete with the propaganda organs of mass corporate media and the social conditioning of public education and social media.

Only when what folks are taught, is completely not in accordance with what they observe, will things begin to change.

people get so long in emotional rage they lose sight of what i feel anyway they should be mad at. we're way beyond a person to blame this on. this one is on all of us for allowing ourselves to be played so easily and led around by our "Feelz".

 

[kyzr]

Here's hoping that Barr can investigate these real crimes and issue indictments.

He can investigate whenever he likes. Why hasn't he? Could it be...this is a steaming pile of bullshit?

The Grand Jury is out on that charge.
If Barr, Huber, Durham, and Horowitz all strike out with zero indictments, then I agree with you.

 

[kyzr]

time for all that to end, don't you think?

wishful thinking, we're the world's police ,and cater to both sides of any conflict, since WW2, despite Ike's warning.

or is trump so evil you'd rather he goes and the very core of assholes stealing our tax dollars keep on as usual?

DJT is merely a bit player , powerless puppet like all past potus' juxtaposed to the 'aholes' you speak of , who are apolitical globalists who've no allegiance to the USA, yet have every incumbent congresscritter on a choke leash

~S~

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

I disagree with your context that Trump went "begging and pleading" to neo-cons asking what he needs to do to stay in power. The article says that Trump met with (40) Republican senators to explain to them why he needs to be supported.
Trump is the strong independent that you seem to be wishing for. Just look at his list of accomplishments. What's not to like?

I also like that Trump makes mistakes and shows vulnerability. Not that it matters, the democrats keep saying "we have Trump now" and poof, the "road runner" escapes again. The swamp hates Trump, just look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the rest of the Hillary supporters in the FBI & DOJ, as well as the Departments of State and Defense. Look at Schiff's witnesses from State, and the irate generals who criticized Trump's pulling back in Syria. Trump was right in every instance. Especially giving Ukraine lethal "Javelin" anti-tank weapons when Obama sent them blankets.

I know who I'm voting for in 2020, and it not any of the democrat socialists. The deep state needs to be rooted out as much as possible.

.

So you can't dispute my post. Thanks for playing.

 

[MisterBeale]

wishful thinking, we're the world's police ,and cater to both sides of any conflict, since WW2, despite Ike's warning.



DJT is merely a bit player , powerless puppet like all past potus' juxtaposed to the 'aholes' you speak of , who are apolitical globalists who've no allegiance to the USA, yet have every incumbent congresscritter on a choke leash

~S~

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

I disagree with your context that Trump went "begging and pleading" to neo-cons asking what he needs to do to stay in power. The article says that Trump met with (40) Republican senators to explain to them why he needs to be supported.
Trump is the strong independent that you seem to be wishing for. Just look at his list of accomplishments. What's not to like?

I also like that Trump makes mistakes and shows vulnerability. Not that it matters, the democrats keep saying "we have Trump now" and poof, the "road runner" escapes again. The swamp hates Trump, just look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the rest of the Hillary supporters in the FBI & DOJ, as well as the Departments of State and Defense. Look at Schiff's witnesses from State, and the irate generals who criticized Trump's pulling back in Syria. Trump was right in every instance. Especially giving Ukraine lethal "Javelin" anti-tank weapons when Obama sent them blankets.

I know who I'm voting for in 2020, and it not any of the democrat socialists. The deep state needs to be rooted out as much as possible.

.

So you can't dispute my post. Thanks for playing.

I believe I did.

As to the article, it is all a matter of POV.

What you see as "accomplishments," I see as flip flops.

I have always seen him as doing pretty much the same things as Hillary would have done.

I see what the talk radio show hosts and what Hannity say about him now, and I remember what AJ and they used to say about him. I just don't buy it all.

It has become a cult of personality. I see through it all. It is a right wing version of Obama. Folks are miserable and need hope. It is a false hope though.

He has about as many, "accomplishments" as Obama had. Wake up already.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Grand Jury is out on that charge.

No it osnt. There is no investigation, and no grand jury. And even Barr the toadie isnt touching it. I imagine he's getting tired of getting burnt.

 

[kyzr]

so you choose to believe nothing can be done and this is how it is and/or should be.

sorry. i reject that. we need to get the gov back under control somehow, some way. and yes, they are going to kick and scream the entire time it's being attempted.

I agree with Sparky.

Trump is just part of the stage show.

When Clinton and the elder Bush got together and kicked the League of Women voters out of hosting the televised debates in favor of having the corporate press do it? It was all over for America. The DNC and GOP saw the threat to their power that an upstart like Perot posed. Someone that truly diagnosed their corruption and could be a threat to their stranglehold on power.

What this amounts to, is a monopoly on power for the two parties.

DJT is controlled by the neo-cons.

He went to the neo-cons begging, and pleading, to find out what he had to do in order to stay in power, to guarantee they would not convict if this went to the Senate.

The two parties are corporate entities, and they both meet and collude with each other at the CFR & with the corporate media, Wall Street, and all the biggest entities in the nation. That is what make up the establishment.

Meanwhile, some folks put their hope in independents or third parties. This too will never work as long as all independents, moderates, and third parties are divided on different assorted issues. And the two parties will continue to make sure that they are. The DNC will fund and promote the libertarians, and the GOP will fund and promote the Greens. Count on it.

Only when everyone gets sick of it and unites, a coalition of ALL independents focused on just one thing, freedom, will it ever end. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader tried once, but no one was listening. I guess things weren't bad enough.

I disagree with your context that Trump went "begging and pleading" to neo-cons asking what he needs to do to stay in power. The article says that Trump met with (40) Republican senators to explain to them why he needs to be supported.
Trump is the strong independent that you seem to be wishing for. Just look at his list of accomplishments. What's not to like?

I also like that Trump makes mistakes and shows vulnerability. Not that it matters, the democrats keep saying "we have Trump now" and poof, the "road runner" escapes again. The swamp hates Trump, just look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the rest of the Hillary supporters in the FBI & DOJ, as well as the Departments of State and Defense. Look at Schiff's witnesses from State, and the irate generals who criticized Trump's pulling back in Syria. Trump was right in every instance. Especially giving Ukraine lethal "Javelin" anti-tank weapons when Obama sent them blankets.

I know who I'm voting for in 2020, and it not any of the democrat socialists. The deep state needs to be rooted out as much as possible.

.

So you can't dispute my post. Thanks for playing.

I believe I did.

As to the article, it is all a matter of POV.

What you see as "accomplishments," I see as flip flops.

I have always seen him as doing pretty much the same things as Hillary would have done.

I see what the talk radio show hosts and what Hannity say about him now, and I remember what AJ and they used to say about him. I just don't buy it all.

It has become a cult of personality. I see through it all. It is a right wing version of Obama. Folks are miserable and need hope. It is a false hope though.

He has about as many, "accomplishments" as Obama had. Wake up already.

Thanks for the clarification.

Agree that Trump was a NY democrat for many years, as well as a major democrat donor. I don't know what triggered Trump to become a Republican?! Maybe it was the realization that the US was in economic decline, and that the US policy makers were selling us out to China? Whatever it was, I'm glad it happened.

Please don't say that Hillary would have done the same accomplishments as Trump. No fucking way.
Here is the list of her "campaign promises" I collated from wiki and other sites:
women's rights
campaign finance reform
Expanding Obamacare
Increasing collective bargaining rights
Place an "exit tax" for companies moving HQ overseas
A constitutional amendment to overturn "citizens united"
Universal pre-school
A constitutional amendment to enshrine LGBTQ rights
Give all illegals a path to citizenship (aka "open borders")
Common Core (WTF is it??)
Regulating Wall Street

So we disagree that Trump and Hillary have the same "campaign promises".