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Mexico condemns fatal shooting by police in Washington state - Yahoo News

Lets see, rocks can kill. The man was throwing rocks at the police and hitting them and tried to throw more after a stun gun failed to stop him. Nothing disproportional about this, the cops were in danger of lethal force against them.

Of course you can bet President Obama and Kerry will say nothing and do nothing except blame the cops.
 

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The video shows him stopped, with his hands up but these days, being not-white is a killing offense.
 
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The video shows him stopped, with his hands up but these days, being not-white is a killing offense.
The video shows him preparing to throw another rock. But then you would claim otherwise as you believe the ignorant pap about out of control cops.
 

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As the story states it only shows like 27 seconds and at the end, it does not include the man throwing stones and hitting the cops at all, it does show him run across the street and begin to throw another stone according to the story. Stones can kill, that was a proper response when the stun gun failed.
 

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These pigs belong in jail. We're quickly approaching a day when "fearing for your life" can mean anything. "He looked at me funny, I was in fear for my life when I put 10 bullets in him."
That's a nice jump from being assaulted. looked at me wrong is a long way from having things thrown at you and then failing to stop after deployment of a tazer.

You really think that the cops cannot use deadly force after failing to stop an assailant with non-lethal tools at their disposal?

That is asinine. Why is it that every time a shooting occurs the reflexive response from some is to demand that the cops are wrong and evil.
 

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These pigs belong in jail. We're quickly approaching a day when "fearing for your life" can mean anything. "He looked at me funny, I was in fear for my life when I put 10 bullets in him."
That's a nice jump from being assaulted. looked at me wrong is a long way from having things thrown at you and then failing to stop after deployment of a tazer.

You really think that the cops cannot use deadly force after failing to stop an assailant with non-lethal tools at their disposal?

That is asinine. Why is it that every time a shooting occurs the reflexive response from some is to demand that the cops are wrong and evil.
3 armed and supposedly fully trained police officers versus a crazy person throwing rocks. Oh shit the tazer didn't work??? Kill him!!!

Nvm that if 3 police officers are incapable of tackling an unarmed person to the ground and handcuffing him they're not fit to wear the damn uniform in the first place. For being incompetent morons. Yeah nvm that. :cool:
 

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Granny says, "Dat's right - it's the end times - all hell breakin' loose in Mexico...

Mexico Suffers Deadliest Month on Record
November 21, 2017 — There were more killings in October in Mexico than in any other month in at least 20 years, according to official data. It's the latest grim milestone in 2017, a year on course to register the highest homicide tally since modern records began.
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's failure to tackle growing drug violence is seen as a major weakness ahead of next July's presidential election, where he faces an uphill battle to keep his centrist Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) in power. The data, published by Mexico's Interior Ministry on Monday, showed there were 2,371 homicide investigations opened in October. With 20,878 slayings nationwide in the first 10 months of 2017, this year is on track to overtake 2011 as the most violent since the government began publishing such data in 1997.

There were an average of 69 killings a day so far this year, putting Mexico on track to overtake the 2011 homicide tally before the end of November. In 2011, there were an average of 63 slayings per day, according to Reuters' calculations. In a speech this month, Pena Nieto acknowledged that crime and violence had been rising. "It has to be said, we're still not satisfied, and we still have lots more to achieve," he said. "Security needs to remain an utmost priority for the government."


Police and forensics experts secure the area where six people were killed, in Acapulco, Mexico​

However, he also added that certain sectors of society are engaged in "bullying" Mexico's institutions, belittling the work of the police and military. Those comments were ridiculed online, where many criticized the rising violence and graft that have stained his administration.

In further bad news for Pena Nieto's unpopular government, Silvestre de la Toba, the head of the Baja California Sur state human rights commission, was shot dead on Monday. His killing drew criticism from U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Roberta Jacobson, who tweeted that his death should be fully investigated. Baja California Sur, which includes the popular resort of Los Cabos, is one of the states that have seen the sharpest rise in killings. There were 409 in the first 10 months of 2017, up 178 percent from the same period last year.

Mexico Suffers Deadliest Month on Record
 

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Mexico too dangerous to visit...

State Department Warns Americans Not To Travel To Five Mexican States
January 11, 2018 - The highest-level alert cites deadly violence and widespread crime. The frequency of attacks has "limited the U.S. government's ability to provide emergency services to citizens."
The U.S. State Department is warning Americans not to travel to five Mexican states, issuing a "do not travel" advisory. "Violent crime, such as homicide, kidnapping, carjacking, and robbery, is widespread," the State Department said in the notice Thursday. As a result, the department says the frequency of the attacks by criminal organizations in the states of Sinaloa, Colima, Michoacan, Guerrero and Tamaulipas has "limited the U.S. government's ability to provide emergency services to citizens in the states." And, in many cases, not even Mexican officials can do much to protect or prevent the widespread scourge of lawlessness against American travelers.


Mexican journalist Javier Valdez lies on the street after he was shot dead in Sinaloa, Mexico, on May 15, 2017. The U.S. State Department is telling Americans to completely avoid five Mexican states because of rising crime and violence.​

Armed groups frequently maintain roadblocks in many areas of Guerrero. A number of Mexico's most violent criminal organizations are based in and operate out of Sinaloa. The streets of Tamualipas are often the scene of gang-led gun battles, while armed criminal groups target public and private passenger buses, often taking passengers hostage and demanding ransom payments. But not all parts of Mexico are covered under the warning. Sixteen of the country's 32 states received a level-two "exercise caution" warning, the department's second-lowest advisory. Citizens were told to "reconsider travel" to another 11 states.

Mexico reached record levels of deadly violence in 2017, making it the bloodiest year in the country's modern history, notes The Guardian. The first 11 months of the year brought 23,101 murder investigations, surpassing the 22,409 registered in the whole of 2011, when the country was in the depths of rampant inter-cartel warfare, says Business Insider. And as NPR's Carrie Kahn reports, outside of global conflict zones, Mexico takes the No. 1 spot for journalists murdered in 2017. The Paris-based Reporters Without Borders says Mexico is the "Western Hemisphere's deadliest country for the media."

State Department Warns Americans Not To Travel To Five Mexican States
 

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Mexican drug war is a killing war...

Mexico Registers Its Highest Homicides On Record
January 25, 2018 - More than a decade after Mexican soldiers deployed in the streets and mountains to fight a U.S.-backed drug war, Mexico has something to show for it: more killings than ever.
Mexico recorded 29,168 homicides last year, according to preliminary government data published this week. While the tally won't be finalized for several months, security experts are already certain the 2017 figure will mark the country's highest murder rate at least since official statistics began in 1997 — and potentially the highest in the nation's modern history. "It comes back to a failed security strategy that has been completely exhausted," says Francisco Rivas, director of the Mexican research group the National Citizens' Observatory. The Mexican government has so far not commented on the statistics.

Not the 'most dangerous'

High as they may be, however, the new figures don't square with President Trump's tweet on Jan. 18 about the extreme state of violence in Mexico. There is no metric by which Mexico could be considered the "most dangerous country in the world." Figuring out the deadliest place on the planet is tricky: Some countries don't release comprehensive numbers, citizens don't always report killings, and police don't always investigate them. Ongoing wars in countries like Syria add a host of other complications.


Spent bullet casings litter a road after authorities reported a gunbattle outside Mazatlan, Mexico, in July 2017, a year marked by the highest homicides in at least decades.​

Outside of war zones, El Salvador recorded the highest homicide rate of any country — 109 per 100,000 inhabitants — in 2015, the last year for which the United Nations provides global data. The U.N. still lacks totals for certain countries in that data set. That year, Mexico registered 16 homicides per 100,000 people, behind other Latin American countries like Honduras, Venezuela and Brazil. With the new statistics from 2017, analysts estimate Mexico's rate climbed to roughly 24 per 100,000 inhabitants.

Another metric could be the Global Peace Index, a study by the Institute for Economics and Peace, a Sydney-based think tank that grades countries on additional factors like access to firearms, victims of internal conflicts and citizen perception. Of 163 countries studied, 21 were considered less peaceful than Mexico in 2017. Still, the country's levels of violence have sparked serious concern in Mexico and abroad.

American warnings
 

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As the story states it only shows like 27 seconds and at the end, it does not include the man throwing stones and hitting the cops at all, it does show him run across the street and begin to throw another stone according to the story. Stones can kill, that was a proper response when the stun gun failed.
Judges have ruled that you can't shoot rock throwers.
About the most you can do is throw rocks back or use clubs.
If the cop has a helmet or shield, rocks can not be lethal.
 

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