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Mask Pressure? Why it's Correct to Not Listen to Biden and the Fear Porn

Dragonlady

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Is it not "fear porn" to tell people that without consistently wearing OTC masks that they will mostly likely become infected and die? Or unknowingly pass on the virus and kill someone else? Especially when there is no evidence to support such?

Is it not propaganda to virtually ignore any and all information from reputable scientist and doctors that does not adhere to the drum beat to get any and all "vaccinations" because they are totally safe?

Is it not willful ignorance and "fear porn" to ignore contradictory information from the very organizations and people pushing experimental gene therapy as "vaccines"?

Is it not absurd to base all statistics on a "test" that was not and cannot diagnose active infectious disease when it's creator time and again lectured such? Does all the dire stats based on such not fit the criteria as "fear porn"?

Is it not "fear porn" to push a "vaccine" that DOES NOT GUARANTEE IMMUNITY, A CURE OR NOT BECOMING A CARRIER?

Inquiring minds want to know.

No one is telling people that unless they wear a mask they are likely to get infected and die. People are being told that when you wear a mask you reduce not only your risk of infection but the risk of spreading it to others in the event that you become infected and don’t know it.

The fewer infections there are, the more successful we will be in shutting down transmission through vaccine and masking.

What is fear porn, is telling women that they will become sterile if they take the vaccine. Or any of the other side effects that are falsely claimed by the purveyors of snake oil and other quack cures like hydroxychloroquine or invectin.
 

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No vaccine guarantees 100% immunity. Not even the polio vaccine. Doesnt mean that vaccines are worthless. LOL at your "logic".


Nobody is saying this.


That's your problem. You dont know the difference between someone who is reputable and someone that isnt.

Get help.
1. Read through the following carefully and comprehensively and get educated, chuckles. And while this may be debatable, the Covid gene therapy doesn't even meet up to this standard, unless you can squeeze YEARS of trial and error and into less than a year (which isn't the case):

vaccination is extremely effective with most childhood vaccines effective in 85% to 95% of children who receive them.1 It is considered one of our greatest global health achievements and is estimated to save 2–3 million lives a year.2 Thanks to vaccines, life-threatening diseases that used to be common in young children in the UK, such as diphtheria, whooping cough and polio, are now relatively rare. Looking at the history of vaccine-preventable disease, there is a huge drop in the number of cases of a disease following the introduction of a vaccine against it. If smallpox had not been eradicated, it would cause 5 million deaths worldwide a year!3 Through vaccination, some diseases have even been eradicated completely, for example smallpox.


2. Really? What planet have you been on? Read and learn, chuckles: COVID-19 and Your Health

3. Spoken like a true willfully ignorant person driven by fear. Read and learn, chuckles:


 
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No one is telling people that unless they wear a mask they are likely to get infected and die. People are being told that when you wear a mask you reduce not only your risk of infection but the risk of spreading it to others in the event that you become infected and don’t know it.

The fewer infections there are, the more successful we will be in shutting down transmission through vaccine and masking.

What is fear porn, is telling women that they will become sterile if they take the vaccine. Or any of the other side effects that are falsely claimed by the purveyors of snake oil and other quack cures like hydroxychloroquine or invectin.
As to your first paragraph: WTF is all the noise about if the underlying message does not deal with the numbers of Covid fatalities during the first year of the pandemic in America? C'mon Lady, GMAFB. Why don't you read the material I gave a like minded brethren of yours, which is the under pining for all treatments and procedures? Mask Pressure? Why it's Correct to Not Listen to Biden and the Fear Porn

Oh, and FYI: unlike the propaganda bull horn,



 

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When you do NOTHING to prevent your deadly illness, even though you’ve been told what to do for a year, and vaccines and treatments are available but you dose yourself with horse wormer instead, it’s hard to have ANY sympathy when you get sick and die as a result.

A big part of the reason these people are dying is because they try to treat themselves with stuff they read about on the internet instead of going to the doctor and getting REAL medicine.

Thousands of doctors and nurses have died. The survivors are exhausted from the stress of treating dying people every single days endlessly for the past 18 months. They’re leaving the healing professions in droves.

Those of you refusing to get vaccines or seek treatment are harming them as well as draining the economy in their treatment.
Got it, healthcare is only a right if I do as you say.
 

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Got it, healthcare is only a right if I do as you say.

"Healthcare" isn't just the right to go to the doctor and get treated when you're sick.

YOU have an obligation to take care of your of your own health. If you deliberately smoke, drink, eat poorly, and end up with a heart attack, you're doctor is going to tell you to live a healthier life. If you continue to drink, smoke and eat poorly and you have a second heart attack as a result, your doctor is going to feel less kindly towards you because you refused to do what was necessary to maintain your health. That's simply human nature.

Medical staff are exhausted and fed up and right now the only people they're seeing in the hospital are those who refused to take care of themselves. Why should anyone in the healthcare business have any sympathy for those who refused to take care of themselves? Who chose to take internet cures instead of seeking medical treatment?

Why should they risk their lives, to take care of you when you could have prevented the disease and you CHOSE not to? Poor planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.
 

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"Healthcare" isn't just the right to go to the doctor and get treated when you're sick.

YOU have an obligation to take care of your of your own health. If you deliberately smoke, drink, eat poorly, and end up with a heart attack, you're doctor is going to tell you to live a healthier life. If you continue to drink, smoke and eat poorly and you have a second heart attack as a result, your doctor is going to feel less kindly towards you because you refused to do what was necessary to maintain your health. That's simply human nature.

Medical staff are exhausted and fed up and right now the only people they're seeing in the hospital are those who refused to take care of themselves. Why should anyone in the healthcare business have any sympathy for those who refused to take care of themselves? Who chose to take internet cures instead of seeking medical treatment?

Why should they risk their lives, to take care of you when you could have prevented the disease and you CHOSE not to? Poor planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.
That's why you loons are firing the health workers if they don't get the vaccine. I don't want to ever hear you again say anything about universal Healthcare. Because you don't support it. So if a gay man gets aids, he shouldn't get treatment? He knew the risks.
 

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Is it just me, or does anyone else see the glaring schizoid attitude of people who are against face masks because they don't like the gov't forcing them to do something while at the same time cheering a law that forces female victims of rape to have that baby if pregnant?
 

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Is it just me, or does anyone else see the glaring schizoid attitude of people who are against face masks because they don't like the gov't forcing them to do something while at the same time cheering a law that forces female victims of rape to have that baby if pregnant?
Hmmm I think it is just you because I always saw it as the glaring schizoid attitude of women demanding the ability to get convenience abortions as a right of choice then condemning the people who want that same right of choice when it comes to facediapers and vaccinations. Right Dimmer??
 

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Hmmm I think it is just you because I always saw it as the glaring schizoid attitude of women demanding the ability to get convenience abortions as a right of choice then condemning the people who want that same right of choice when it comes to facediapers and vaccinations. Right Dimmer??
Hmmm, obviously you're not thinking....just blathering. What is this theocratic crap "convenience abortions"? You jokers consistently try to paint all abortion patients as some sort of callous, ignorant sluts who are aborting 81/2 month pregnancies. GMAFB with your BS, will ya please? And get your facts straight, the argument is that the status quo wants to force people to get those shots regardless of any fact based information that shows they are not safe, let alone a true "vaccine" (along with faulty tests determining infection). You want to get the shot, go right ahead...just don't tell me I have to do it when the shot does NOT guarantee protection from infection or being a carrier. Capice?
 

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Care to know what we're spreading down to our kids? I live close to a Jr. High, and the lower class kids walk to and from school, they're primarily Hispanic. 1/3rd of those kids wear masks while they walk to and from school.

WTF is that? There's absolutely no rational sense to it. They're victim of propaganda a fear, period, and if you think today's snowflakes are bad, wait to see this bunch.
 

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So here we go again. Democrats and Leftists freaking out over some slight increases in cases. However, there's plenty of things they aren't addressing in all of this.

1. Different people are betting infected in this wave.
It's the young, healthy, unvaccinated who are getting COVID. And that's fine. The data says their survival is VERY high, statistically almost certain. That's why you're seeing spikes in cases but not in deaths. In previous waves, it was the old and fragile who were dying. They've all been mostly vaccinated. So, the case/death ratio is WAY down, and we WANT the unvaccinated young to get the disease in order to build immunity. High cases with low death are signs of a healthy reaction, not a freak out CRISIS as the left is performing in political theatre. Notice, the media is not differentiating between who is primarily being affected here between different waves of the virus. They're erroneously comparing cases of different populations that have been affected by different waves. Misinformation anyone? Meanwhile, no disease on earth is judged by amount of cases. It's deaths, and since they are low, the media will not address this ironclad statistical data. They will make COVID the one disease that is defined by cases, not death.

2. Why are we worrying about Kids?
Kids are pretty much not affected in a general statistical sense. The data clearly dictates that any suggestion of under 18yo masking should result in you looking at the person like they're insane. You're more likely to get struck by lightning than die from COVID under the age of 18. Yet, we have mainstream leftist politicians demanding we mask up our youth. These people should possibly be put through mental testing, or at the very least laughed at, and certainly not listened to.

3. Democrats enjoy bullying
Leftists are in all-out anti-Conservative, bully mode. They aren't addressing the reasons why some aren't getting vaccinated. For example: Bob is 21 years old. He's almost certainly not in any risk of COVID. He's concerned about a brand new vaccine that hasn't passed through proper testing being put into his body. He trusts his immune system, and he sees the data that says he's not going to die from COVID. So, Bob doesn't get the vaccine. Those are sensible reasons to not get the vaccine. What are Biden, Leftists, and the Media doing? BOB MUST BE LOOKING AT STUPID MEMES FROM ALT RIGHT SOURCES ON FACEBOOK, HE'S JUST A DUMB TRUMP VOTER. Gosh, that's so much how you get people to do things in life. Fear Porn Leftists (Biden, Fauci, Media, etc.).. You aren't listening to people in why they're not getting the vaccine, you're making up a boogeyman and insulting the very populace you said you desired to unify with. This clearly isn't about "saving" Bob (even though he doesn't need saved), this is about clubbing Conservatives by branding them as something horrible and blaming them. That's it.

4. Here's the difference between the two sides

Example: 40yo Jerry with 2 health conditions

Democrats: Jerry is in danger, and he's too stupid to realize it. He's probably a right wing conspiracy nut job who voted for Trump, and because of Jerry's stupidity we're going to try to shut down people's ability to speak on major platforms, and then impose massive pressure and outright mandates to force the population to mask everyone everywhere to "save" Dumb f*ck Jerry. Oh, and everyone like Jerry is dumb as f*ck too. But, we're uniters! Remember that!

Republicans: It's on Jerry. Jerry has to weigh his options and make a choice. Jerry has the vaccine available, but if he choses not to get it, he knows the risks. To ask all of us to mask our 4 year olds to save Jerry is a very bizarre request. Jerry is no threat to the youth, and all of those who are vaccinated are well defended against anything Jerry can do to them as well. Hey government, get the F out of our lives and stop trying to punish us because you want to "save" people who are making choices that don't effect other people. You're not the heroes you're claiming as you stroke yourselves, you're government bullies who are overstepping your bounds in the name of safety. Many have done it before you, and many will do it after you, but it's gov't overreach, and you're just seeking to use a crisis to pass more of your wasteful, inefficient, big-gov't agenda, not to mention just merely virtue signal. Wearing a mask is the theatrical "Seig Heil" of unity of your crew. F off.

Here is the problem. It is not just about Jerry. If he gets sick he ties up hospital resources that could be used to help people who really are sick.

A Iraq veteran died from a treatable illness because ICU beds were full of Covid patients.

Wilkinson was airlifted to Houston, but it was too late.

"They weren't able to do the procedure on him because it had been too long," his mother told Begnaud. "They] told me that they had seen air pockets in his intestines, which means that they were already starting to die off. They told me that I had to make a decision, and I knew how Danny felt; he didn't want to be that way. And, so, we were all in agreement that we had to let him go."

Roughly 24 hours after he walked into the emergency room, Daniel Wilkinson died at the age of 46.

Kakli told Begnaud that if it weren't for the COVID crisis, the procedure for Wilkinson would have taken 30 minutes, and he'd have been back out the door.

 

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People as individuals are smart. They know what's best for them as individuals. Wear a mask, get vaccine, social distance, or dont. Everyone makes their own choices for themselves.

The problem is people in large groups or masses are fucking completely stupid, irrational and dumb.

So personally I wish people would make their own choice and stay out of other people's business and just go on their way.
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1-- think about how you viewed the common cold in 2019.

2 -- fast forward to today and ask yoursef how you view the delta variant.

3 -- hit your head repeatedly with a blunt object if your views in the scenarious 1 and 2 differ significantly.

The Common Cold doesn't have a 2-3% mortality rate.

It doesn't leave you with permanantly scarred lungs if you do survive.
 

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Republicans: It's on Jerry. Jerry has to weigh his options and make a choice. Jerry has the vaccine available, but if he choses not to get it, he knows the risks. To ask all of us to mask our 4 year olds to save Jerry is a very bizarre request. Jerry is no threat to the youth, and all of those who are vaccinated are well defended against anything Jerry can do to them as well. Hey government, get the F out of our lives and stop trying to punish us because you want to "save" people who are making choices that don't effect other people. You're not the heroes you're claiming as you stroke yourselves, you're government bullies who are overstepping your bounds in the name of safety. Many have done it before you, and many will do it after you, but it's gov't overreach, and you're just seeking to use a crisis to pass more of your wasteful, inefficient, big-gov't agenda, not to mention just merely virtue signal. Wearing a mask is the theatrical "Seig Heil" of unity of your crew. F off.

It's kind of funny the same people who want to force women to have their rapists' babies and force LGBTQ+ people back into the closet think that Jerry has the right to go around infecting the rest of us.

The problem is, the refusal of you Bleach-Drinkers to get your shot has dragged this disease out longer than it needs to be dragged out.
 

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Do you have any evidence of these "facts" or are these simply "Republican facts", otherwise known as "lies we make up and our base believes them because they'll believe anything we tell them".

Remember all of the stories about how the Clintons were criminals, rapists and murders???? Where are the charges, the evidence, the witnesses?

There is no investigation or charges again Biden, Hillary, Obama.... Why? No evidence, going to court would just prove this, best go on some RW media and spout lies..

Where is the Pillow guys's evidence.
What happened in Arizona audit? And Trump still told in Rubes it was a win, they still fucking believe him.

Get this clear, the Gateway Pundit is not a news source... IT is


While Trump is list investigations with evidence..
 

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So we need socialized medicine where people don't get 4 million dollar hospital bills?

I'm in! :)

No you need a healthy population with good public health policy, where 40 million people don't get a disease and have to be tested for it. You administered 636 million covid tests. All of which cost more money through your Big Pharma, than the WHO test which Trump rejected.

Other nations have managed to wear masks, social distance, and they're not crashing their economies treating millions of sick citizens. USA, India and Brazil lead the world in cases, which doesn't say much for your public health policies.

You have 2% of the world's population, and 19% of the corona virus cases - despite leading the world in resources to deal with this pandemic.

All because your Republican Party is so incompetent at dealing with anything. They can't even manage a power grid in Texas.

So much for "American exceptionalism".
 

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The Common Cold doesn't have a 2-3% mortality rate.

It doesn't leave you with permanantly [sic] scarred lungs if you do survive.

Neither does the #CoronaHoax2020 virus.
 

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What you seem not to be able to get through your thick skull after all this time is that getting the vaccine isnt just about protecting one self, it's about stopping the spread of the virus.

Tis was never about controlling any damn virus.

From the beginning, it was about controlling people.
 

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No you need a healthy population with good public health policy, where 40 million people don't get a disease and have to be tested for it. You administered 636 million covid tests. All of which cost more money through your Big Pharma, than the WHO test which Trump rejected.

Other nations have managed to wear masks, social distance, and they're not crashing their economies treating millions of sick citizens. USA, India and Brazil lead the world in cases, which doesn't say much for your public health policies.

You have 2% of the world's population, and 19% of the corona virus cases - despite leading the world in resources to deal with this pandemic.

All because your Republican Party is so incompetent at dealing with anything. They can't even manage a power grid in Texas.

So much for "American exceptionalism".
Dragon,

We have discussed this before...

Don't argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you on experience...

These posters are trying to use there ignorance as a argument... They wilfully get misinformed as long as it hits their agenda...

They don't care if they get found out, Remember they think they are at War and everything goes in in a war... They have the leftists as evil and they want you to say all GOP supporters are evil too... They need division, they need tribal, people have to stop thinking and get in the trench...
 

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