Made in God’s image. Yuk. Not me thanks.

[CarlinAnnArbor]

He is described as a vile genocidal and infanticidal god

Only by the Satan worshippers.

Get the behind me, Satan

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

he fell from grace, man bore God's image. Since reconciliation on the Cross, man bears His image again

How God's image depends on grace? What does 'created in God's image' mean then, according to your view?

All through the Old Testament, after the Garden of Eden, when the "holy people" spent their time engaged in debauchery, drunkenness, incest, violence, adultery, the secret arts, and all the rest - all through their history plagued with the fruits of idolatry, ultimately resulting in their divorce from God - do you think they were bearing God's image?

I think that 'in God's image' means the ability to create and having mind.

You are not pleased with 'holy people' of the past. Okay. Are there 'holy people' now who dont engage in all those sins you mentioned?

After all the adulteries of the faithless one, Israel, God finally cut her loose (Jer 3:8).

Here's a bit of history for you on the Jewish Age:

Though a valiant effort on the part of the chosen, the Age of the Law and the Prophets accounted for nothing. Priests sacrificed animal after animal on the altar, the blood of each availing little more than temporary absolution. Prophets uttered prophecy after prophecy purportedly from God, the veracity of each by law under scrutiny. For her generations of this repetition and uncertainty, Israel habitually wandered, and so received her certificate of divorce from God in the eighth century BC when Assyria conquered her. God, however, refused to forget His people, and Cyrus the Great, the Persian who defeated Babylon, commissioned the exiles to return to Judah and Benjamin in the southern territory of Judea to restore their temple and priestly order. But then Judea would receive her divorce certificate in the first century AD when Rome would conquer her, and the nation would never return to her first love; Israel would utterly and forever forfeit any matrimonial connection to her Creator.

The holy people were idolatrous, adulterous sinners, not unlike their pagan neighbors. A new holy people - the Christians - would be the ones to bear fruit for God and inherit the kingdom (Mt 21:43). The holy people now do not worship idols. They bear God's image.

Okay, let's put the Jews aside for a while. I repeat once again - what does 'created in God's image' mean according to your view? Can you answer my question directly and using only one statement?

The animals have the form of Gods angels
Man, Has the form of God.

That is all

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father

Jesus WAS the OT God.
He said He came to REVEAL THE FATHER.

Before this, the world didnt know about the Father.

You guys who think Jesus is the "nice" son of an "evil" father, will be in for a rude awaking

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

For someone that doesn't believe in any God, the OP sure seems to hate what doesn't exist.
How about just letting folks believe what they want as we puny humans really don't have a clue either way?

Atheist always do. For a group that claims they're not a religion, they sure proselytize in every religion thread. They're worse than the JWs and the Mormons

 

[ESay]

he fell from grace, man bore God's image. Since reconciliation on the Cross, man bears His image again

How God's image depends on grace? What does 'created in God's image' mean then, according to your view?

All through the Old Testament, after the Garden of Eden, when the "holy people" spent their time engaged in debauchery, drunkenness, incest, violence, adultery, the secret arts, and all the rest - all through their history plagued with the fruits of idolatry, ultimately resulting in their divorce from God - do you think they were bearing God's image?

I think that 'in God's image' means the ability to create and having mind.

You are not pleased with 'holy people' of the past. Okay. Are there 'holy people' now who dont engage in all those sins you mentioned?

After all the adulteries of the faithless one, Israel, God finally cut her loose (Jer 3:8).

Here's a bit of history for you on the Jewish Age:

Though a valiant effort on the part of the chosen, the Age of the Law and the Prophets accounted for nothing. Priests sacrificed animal after animal on the altar, the blood of each availing little more than temporary absolution. Prophets uttered prophecy after prophecy purportedly from God, the veracity of each by law under scrutiny. For her generations of this repetition and uncertainty, Israel habitually wandered, and so received her certificate of divorce from God in the eighth century BC when Assyria conquered her. God, however, refused to forget His people, and Cyrus the Great, the Persian who defeated Babylon, commissioned the exiles to return to Judah and Benjamin in the southern territory of Judea to restore their temple and priestly order. But then Judea would receive her divorce certificate in the first century AD when Rome would conquer her, and the nation would never return to her first love; Israel would utterly and forever forfeit any matrimonial connection to her Creator.

The holy people were idolatrous, adulterous sinners, not unlike their pagan neighbors. A new holy people - the Christians - would be the ones to bear fruit for God and inherit the kingdom (Mt 21:43). The holy people now do not worship idols. They bear God's image.

Okay, let's put the Jews aside for a while. I repeat once again - what does 'created in God's image' mean according to your view? Can you answer my question directly and using only one statement?

The animals have the form of Gods angels
Man, Has the form of God.

That is all

Yeah, that is a good joke.

 

[Monk-Eye]

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Not that I know of.
We do not hold any supernatural beliefs. Our historical focus, and my own penchants, have me focusing on morals that had the ancients call Yahweh a vile demiurge.
We are also not literalists of our own myths and use them as talking points only, even as some of our works can be taken literally.
Regards
DL

One perspective on stories developed about deities associated with celestial bodies is that science theory is included in the development of those mythologies .

The fable of saturn eating its children that were freed after being fed a rock appears as a theory of religious cosmology on interactions between saturn and the other known planets leading to the arrangement of celestial bodies of hour solar system .

Would it be unreasonable to levy accolades or epithets on a radar about an inchoate celestial body for primordial celestial events personified as characteristics of celestial deity ?

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Cosmogony - Wikipedia

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Cosmogony (from the Koine Greek ***** Greek: ***** (from Greek: "cosmos, the world") and the root of ***** "come into a new state of being")) is any model concerning the origin of either the cosmos or the universe.[1][2][3]
Cosmogony does not only relate to scientific theories, but also has connections to the humanities, more specifically creation myths.
Before cosmogony had roots in scientific theories, creation myths were used to provide explanations for the origin story of the universe.

Cosmology - Wikipedia

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It is the scientific study of the origin, evolution, and eventual fate of the universe.
Religious or mythological cosmology is a body of beliefs based on mythological, religious, and esoteric literature and traditions of creation myths and eschatology.

Saturn (mythology) - Wikipedia

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Opis, when syncretized with Greek mythology, was not only the wife of Saturn, she was his sister and the daughter of Caelus. Her children were Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto, Juno, Ceres, and Vesta.[5] Opis also acquired queenly status and was reputed to be an eminent goddess. By public decree temples, priests, and sacrifices were accorded her. When Saturn learned of a prophecy that stated his and Opis' children would end up overthrowing him as leader, he ate his children one by one after they were born. Opis, being the loving mother that she was, could not just stand by and let all of her children be eaten by her husband. So, instead of feeding Saturn their final child Jupiter, she wrapped a rock in swaddling clothes, and fed that to Saturn instead of Jupiter. Opis then went on to raise Jupiter, and then helped him free his siblings from their father's stomach.

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Caelus - Wikipedia

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Caelus or Coelus was a primal god of the sky in Roman myth and theology, iconography, and literature (compare caelum, the Latin word for "sky" or "the heavens", hence English "celestial"). The deity's name usually appears in masculine grammatical form when he is conceived of as a male generative force, but the neuter form Caelum is also found as a divine personification.[1]

The name of Caelus indicates that he was the Roman counterpart of the Greek god Uranus (Οὐρανός, Ouranos), who was of major importance in the theogonies of the Greeks. Varro couples him with Terra (Earth) as pater and mater (father and mother), and says that they are "great deities" (dei magni) in the theology of the mysteries at Samothrace.[2]

Some Roman writers used Caelus or Caelum[33] as a way to express the monotheistic god of Judaism. Juvenal identifies the Jewish god with Caelus as the highest heaven (summum caelum), saying that Jews worship the numen of Caelus;[34] Petronius uses similar language.[35] Florus has a passage describing the Holy of Holies in the Temple of Jerusalem as housing a "sky" (caelum) under a golden vine. A golden vine, perhaps the one mentioned, was sent by the Hasmonean king Aristobulus to Pompeius Magnus after his defeat of Jerusalem, and was later displayed in the Temple of Jupiter Capitolinus.[36]

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

For someone that doesn't believe in any God, the OP sure seems to hate what doesn't exist.

The depiction of this nasty little god does exist, which is clearly what he was talking about. Try to follow, these are simple, English sentences.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Iconoclasm Of Roman Greek Deities And Syncretism Of Militancy With Good Versus Evil Dichotomy "

* Evidence For Contradictions Adamant About Moral Absolutes *

Jesus WAS the OT God.
He said He came to REVEAL THE FATHER.
Before this, the world didnt know about the Father.
You guys who think Jesus is the "nice" son of an "evil" father, will be in for a rude awaking

It would seem difficult from the hour father than issa would remain forgiven were issa to no longer forgive .

The prayer of hour father includes one hell of a conditional , " forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us " .

The transition from an imperial byzantine empire under roman greek iconography to an imperial byzantine empire under christian iconography occurred with a transfer of vigilant militarism that would eventually be divested from christianity by martin luther treatises as contrary with tenets and edicts of the gospel .

It is that muhammad knew nothing of martin luther treatises and perceived christianity to be universal , proselytizing and militant ; yet , where is a directive to kill and be killed in the gospel ?

Surah 9:111 Indeed, God has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of God, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’ān. And who is truer to his covenant than God? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

* Informed Consent Where Salvific Faith Offers Know Things *

* Dealing With Informed Consent And Whether Passions Incline One To Provide It *

Atheist always do. For a group that claims they're not a religion, they sure proselytize in every religion thread. They're worse than the JWs and the Mormons

There is not a difference between creed and religion as both are based in tenets and edicts , even when tenets conjecture existential intercession ; and , secular humanism is as much a religion as moral fundamentalism , with both often annoying in their own unique and profoundly absurd weighs .

Apatheism - Wikipedia

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Apatheism (/ˌæpəˈθiːɪzəm/;[citation needed] a portmanteau of apathy and theism) is the attitude of apathy towards the existence or non-existence of God(s). It is more of an attitude rather than a belief, claim, or belief system.[1][2]
An apatheist is someone who is not interested in accepting or rejecting any claims that gods exist or do not exist. The existence of God(s) is not rejected, but may be designated irrelevant.[3]
Scientist and philosopher Ian von Hegner has argued that apatheism is an alternative to positions such as theism, atheism, and agnosticism, with implications that have been overlooked in modern philosophical discussions.[3] Philosopher Trevor Hedberg has called apatheism "uncharted territory in the philosophy of religion."[1]

* Japhetic History Subsumed By Semitic Dichotomy *

The academic foundations of reason in western social systems remain integrated with robust egyptian greek and roman moral emblems , in spite of iconoclastic pogroms by sin and luciferian mythologies of mesopotamia .

Iconologia, or, Moral emblems : Ripa, Cesare, fl. 1600 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Cesare Ripa - Wikipedia

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The Iconologia was a highly influential emblem book based on Egyptian, Greek and Roman emblematical representations, many personifications. The book was used by orators, artists, poets and "modern Italians" to give substance to qualities such as virtues, vices, passions, arts and sciences. The concepts were arranged in alphabetical order, after the fashion of the Renaissance. For each there was a verbal description of the allegorical figure proposed by Ripa to embody the concept, giving the type and color of its clothing and its varied symbolic attributes, along with the reasons why these were chosen, reasons often supported by references to literature (largely classical).[2]

 

[Monk-Eye]

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* Legitimate Aggression And Creed Of Individualism Entitled Through Citizenship *

Those promoting equality often confuse equal protection from government with equal endowment through government , as the two are not the same .

* Rigorous Rules Necessary For Discussion *

By definition , violence is illegitimate aggression , while self defense against violence is legitimate aggression .

According to theory for individualism , a definition of illegitimate aggression may be a valid threat to implement aggression , or an actual implementation of aggression , against the elements of self ownership ( free roam , free association , progeny ) or self determination ( private property , willful intents - contracts ) .

A negative wright is a law phrased as a proscription for authoritarian action by government , whereby one obtains a negative liberty from government to act freely without its interference .

A positive wright is a law phrased as a prescription for authoritarian action by government , whereby one may obtain a negative liberty from other individuals to act freely without their interference , or whereby one may obtain a positive liberty from other individuals to not act freely without their interference .

Thus individuals would be equally protected to privately practice behavior of creed within ethical constructs of non violence principles .

* Equal Protection Against Illegitimate Aggression *

All individual members of a collective state are entitled to equal protection against illegitimate aggression when its constitution includes non violence principles as part of the social civil contract .

One may exercise the self determination element of individualism by not being prohibited through government from free use of private property , by entering into valid contracts , or by exercising power of attorney , or by exercising writs of willful intent .

* Legitimate Aggression Against Equal Endowment *

A purpose for extending social security coverage to spouses is account for procreation in a traditional family where a female as a home maker does not enter the employment market and is consequently allowed to receive social security dispensations based upon contributions from the male spouse .

Why would a lexicon of bread winner and home maker apply to individuals whose social civil contract ( civil union ) is physically unfounded in procreation ?

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[onefour1]

Made in God’s image. Yuk. Not me thanks.

Yahweh, it is written, created us in his image.

He is described as a vile genocidal and infanticidal god, a demiurge to us Gnostics Christians, and is responsible for a religion that has become homophobic and misogynous and who grew Christianity by inquisitions and murder.

This is not surprising given that so many of Christianity’s moral tenets are immoral. Christianity lacks moral tenets with which to convert. It takes pressure and force to believe the weird Christian take on the otherwise decent Jewish beginnings of their religion and god. Christians should have usurped some decent god as without Midrash, Yahweh is more like an evil Satan than a good god.

If you think you are created in Yahweh’s image, and able to do his evil and good deeds, are you happy about it?

If you do not think you are up to Yahweh’s evil ways, are you happy about it?

Regards
DL

Romans 1:21-23

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

 

[.oldschool]

Made in God’s image. Yuk. Not me thanks.

Gnostic Society Library. Sophia and Eve - Valentinus and the Valentinian Tradition

According to Valentinian teachers, the passage "In the image of God he created them, male and female he created them" (Genesis1:27), means the creation of the "spiritual humanity" (Irenaeus Against Heresies 1:18:2). Specifically, "the 'male' are called angels, while the 'female' themselves are the superior seed" (Excerpts of Theodotus 21,1). The 'male' are of course Adam/Christ while the 'female' are of course Eve/Sophia.

 

[onefour1]

We are created in the image of God because we are his offspring and God is the father of our spirits:

Acts 17:28-29
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.

Hebrews 12:9
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Matthew 5:16
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

In fact Jesus himself is the express image of his Father and if you were to see him you would know what the Father looks like also:

Hebrews 1:1-3
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Because Jesus is the express image of the person of the Father when Philip ask Jesus if he would show them the Father, this was his reply:

John 14:6-9
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the away, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Because we are the literal offspring of God the Father, the following verse in Psalms 83 should make more sense:

Psalm 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

And we can also understand why Jesus taught the following:

John 10:33-36
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Because all of our spirits are the literal offspring of God and He is the Father of spirits, we realize that Gods beget gods. We aren't gods in the sense that we have all power and the glory of God, but as his children, ie, his literal offspring, he calls us gods. When we have children, they have the same form and image that we have. They are human kind and are not so different from us. It is the same with God. We, as his literal offspring and children are create in the very image of God our eternal heavenly Father.