Looks Like We Are Heading Into The Doggy Doo-Doo Days of the Iran War Now

[toobfreak]

Serious case of war boner blue balls spotted four months into this affair.

Damn, you can't even keep track of time. The war started 2.5 months ago, been in abeyance for the past six weeks, not four months you idiot.

Four months ago was the middle of freaking January.

 

[kyzr]

Regime change can not be effectuated by air power and naval block-aid alone, it necessitates ground troops. Intelligent strategists all know this.

How about using the Artesh to take control of Iran? (Iran's regular army, 570,000 in number, but can they defeat 125,000 IRGC?)

The amount of ground troops required would necessitate a military draft. This isn't the late sixties, the folks that would be drafted already know that this is not in America's or their interest. I know you would want to debate that last statement, but that is how the eligible draft population feels, that part is not up for debate.

Forget the draft. Not happening. We don't have time to put them all thru "Fat Camp".

Any move to draft them for what they perceive as the agenda of Israel and the deep state will cause a revolt, and the necessary troops needed for a war that has not been declared by congress would not be available. Thus, logic dictates, America cannot possibly effectuate a regime change.

There are many ways to skin that cat...

 

[MisterBeale]

You are war propaganda

Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?

Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters

www.theguardian.com

Iran regime reportedly issued nationwide shoot-to-kill orders as protest death toll surges

Iran protest death toll estimates range from several thousand to over 35,000 as brutal crackdown intensifies. Medical data reveals shocking scale of violence.

www.foxnews.com

Trump: Iran killed 42,000 protesters in two months

'Absolutely unacceptable' for Iran to have a nuclear bomb, IRGC killed at least 42,000 protesters since February, US President Donald Trump says.

www.israelnationalnews.com

Iran Protest Death Toll Could Top 30,000, According to Local Health Officials

TOP STORIES

www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com

And I suppose you bleev that Russia colluded with Trump, the COVID virus was of natural trans-species evolution, and Iraq had weapons of mass destruction too, eh?

 

[Matted Joybeard]

Damn, you can't even keep track of time. The war started 2.5 months ago, been in abeyance for the past six weeks, not four months you idiot.

Four months ago was the middle of freaking January.

No denial on the war boner blue balls noted.

 

[Mac-7]

Regime change can not be effectuated by air power and naval block-aid alone, it necessitates ground troops. Intelligent strategists all know this.

The amount of ground troops required would necessitate a military draft. This isn't the late sixties, the folks that would be drafted already know that this is not in America's or their interest. I know you would want to debate that last statement, but that is how the eligible draft population feels, that part is not up for debate.

Any move to draft them for what they perceive as the agenda of Israel and the deep state will cause a revolt, and the necessary troops needed for a war that has not been declared by congress would not be available.

Thus, logic dictates, America cannot possibly effectuate a regime change.

True

What trump can do is cut off life support to the regime and open the door for a political uprising

 

[kyzr]

And I suppose you bleev that Russia colluded with Trump,

No.

the COVID virus was of natural trans-species evolution,

No. Fau-Chi paid the Wuhan Lab to do illegal "gain-of-function" research.

and Iraq had weapons of mass destruction too, eh?

Any excuse to get rid of Saddam and his vicious larvae would suffice...

 

[MisterBeale]

Upon WHAT do you base that statement ?

Several things actually.

First, the intitial reports of those numbers come from neo-con media. Their sourcing is always annonymous, i.e. based on "reports," or estimates.

Second, the timeline. It takes quite a bit of time to liquidate that many people and not leave any proof. It took Israel an average of one year per 90,000 Palestinians killed, and this is what that looks like;

And lastly, I listen to experts on this, and I read what they are saying.

Were there protests? Yes. However, the violent protesters were largely paid and supported by Israel, it was a regime change operation. Afghans that had fled their nation into Iran as refugees have even less support than the US give to refugees here. They have no way to make a living or feed themselves. They are not allowed to work and get no welfare from the Iranian regime. Mossad hired them with relative ease to kill police and cause destruction, much like our foundations funded rioters during the BLM/George Floyd protests.

Anytime one of them was spotted acting lawlessly, they were killed on the spot, or they were arrested to be later given the death penalty. The NYT itself estimates that the highest causality rate during the protests in question is between 300-1500 rioters.

Here is a tweet by former Trump official admitting what the folks at VIPS were saying;

Meet the former fashion blogger and shady doctor behind the ‘30,000 dead’ Iran psy-op - The Grayzone

Western officials seized on a dubious death toll of 30,000 protesters to escalate against Iran. The number originates with a single, clearly compromised source. But a zealously pro-war Guardian reporter is doing her best to legitimize it. The claim of “30,000 killed” during two days of protests...

thegrayzone.com

 

[MisterBeale]

No.

No. Fau-Chi paid the Wuhan Lab to do illegal "gain-of-function" research.

Any excuse to get rid of Saddam and his vicious larvae would suffice...

SO you know the media lies and is incompetent, mostly run by an agenda, but you choose to believe what they are telling you when it justifies your world view?


I see.

Very interesting.

 

[MisterBeale]

True

What trump can do is cut off life support to the regime and open the door for a political uprising

Name just one other time in history where a people has risen up against their own government, no matter how bad the government, against a foreign power that was causing their nation and government pain.

You really do believe these insane and foolish war propaganda narratives they are feeding you, don't you?

 

[Matted Joybeard]

 

[Mac-7]

Several things actually.

First, the intitial reports of those numbers come from neo-con media. Their sourcing is always annonymous, i.e. based on "reports," or estimates.

Second, the timeline. It takes quite a bit of time to liquidate that many people and not leave any proof. It took Israel an average of one year per 90,000 Palestinians killed, and this is what that looks like;
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And lastly, I listen to experts on this, and I read what they are saying.

Were there protests? Yes. However, the violent protesters were largely paid and supported by Israel, it was a regime change operation. Afghans that had fled their nation into Iran as refugees have even less support than the US give to refugees here. They have no way to make a living or feed themselves. They are not allowed to work and get no welfare from the Iranian regime. Mossad hired them with relative ease to kill police and cause destruction, much like our foundations funded rioters during the BLM/George Floyd protests.

Anytime one of them was spotted acting lawlessly, they were killed on the spot, or they were arrested to be later given the death penalty. The NYT itself estimates that the highest causality rate during the protests in question is between 300-1500 rioters.

Here is a tweet by former Trump official admitting what the folks at VIPS were saying;

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Meet the former fashion blogger and shady doctor behind the ‘30,000 dead’ Iran psy-op - The Grayzone

Western officials seized on a dubious death toll of 30,000 protesters to escalate against Iran. The number originates with a single, clearly compromised source. But a zealously pro-war Guardian reporter is doing her best to legitimize it. The claim of “30,000 killed” during two days of protests...

thegrayzone.com

I dont know how many protesters were murdered by the regime

And neither do you

The New York Times may have a vague idea, but if it hurts the regime they wont tell you

 

[Mac-7]

Name just one other time in history where a people has risen up against their own government, no matter how bad the government, against a foreign power that was causing their nation and government pain.

You really do believe these insane and foolish war propaganda narratives they are feeding you, don't you?

I know that Iran has no 2nd Amendment right to bear arms

Which means the iranian people do not have guns

And historically very few regimes have been overthrown after running out of bullets to kill protestors with

 

[MisterBeale]

I dont know how many protesters were murdered by the regime

And neither do you

The New York Times may have a vague idea, but if it hurts the regime they wont tell you

Is there a difference between "protestors," and "rioters," in your view?

 

[Matted Joybeard]

I am in the Oval Office at the White House where we just had a very good call with President Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, of The United Arab Emirates, Emir Tamim bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani, and Minister Ali al-Thawadi, of Qatar, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, of Pakistan, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of Türkiye, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, of Egypt, King Abdullah II, of Jordan, and King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, of Bahrain, concerning the Islamic Republic of Iran, and all things related to a Memorandum of Understanding pertaining to PEACE. An Agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to finalization between the United States of America, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the various other Countries, as listed. Separately, I had a call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, of Israel, which, likewise, went very well. Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly. In addition to many other elements of the Agreement, the Strait of Hormuz will be opened. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

 

[toobfreak]

An Agreement has been largely negotiated, subject to finalization between the United States of America, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the various other Countries, as listed.

In other words, no actual agreement is reached yet.

Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly. In addition to many other elements of the Agreement, the Strait of Hormuz will be opened. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

Good Ol' President Trump, gave up his own son's wedding in order to try to hammer out a deal to save the world oil supply just so that gas-guzzling ICE-driving leftists don't have to pay so much for fuel while they drive around chanting about how bad Climate Change is.

 

[Deadstick]

There is no associating you with gold anything. But thanks for admitting I am right and you got nothing but a smarmy deflection.

You are not right, Iran has not attacked anyone unlike the US who have been attacking Countries since the end of the war in 1945.

 

[sparky]

folks at VIPS were saying;

a most interesting site Mr B

Name just one other time in history where a people has risen up against their own government, no matter how bad the government, against a foreign power that was causing their nation and government pain.

ours

~S~

 

[skye]

9 times out of 10, when someone opposes Israel, they're talking about Bi Bi and the corrupt Israeli government. Not so much the country itself or the citizens.

Exactly!

 

[MisterBeale]

a most interesting site Mr B

While Ray is politically to the left, and was instrumental in exposing the Iran-Contra-gate, I have faith that he tells the truth no matter what the partisan narrative. This organization consistently maintained the Hillary and the "51 intelligence professionals," that claimed the Wikileaks was a Russian hack was really the work of a DNC leaker. Even Assange pointed to Seth Rich while couching the language he used so as not to open himself up to litigation.

'Too Big to Fail': Russia-gate One Year After VIPS Showed a Leak, Not a Hack

One year later, the VIPS memo contending that the DNC emails were leaked and not hacked has yet to be successfully challenged. Meanwhile, the country sinks deeper into the morass of the new McCarthyism, comments Patrick Lawrence. By Patrick Lawrence Special to Consortium News A year has passed si

consortiumnews.com

 

[toobfreak]

You are not right, Iran has not attacked anyone

It is always a joy watching you clueless idiot bungholes lie for our enemies once again proving you're no American. Go suck an Iranian cactus.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/