Looks Like We Are Heading Into The Doggy Doo-Doo Days of the Iran War Now

[Zavulon]

Translation: "I would have just ignored Iran building nuclear weapons. Let the next president deal with it just like every one of them has done for 47 years."

Why not? There are nuclear weapons in North Korea, Israel, France, England, Pakistan, India.
Iran with nuclear weapons won't make any significant changes. Small nuclear arsenal provides only Minimal Deterrence, i.e. insurance against direct military invasion, and destruction of the state only. And even in this case, truly independent nuclear Iran might become more significant problem for Europe, Russia and China, not for America.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Unsupportable tripe. The USA has historically been one of the most negotiable countries around. We negotiate and compromise on everything.

Didn't Trump bomb Iran at least twice DURING "negotiations?"

Yet another mid-talks attack suggests Trump was never serious about peace

Second Israeli-US attack during nuclear negotiations may finally jettison any chance of agreement

www.theguardian.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Translation: "I would have just ignored Iran building nuclear weapons. Let the next president deal with it just like every one of them has done for 47 years."

If Trump totally bombed Iran, supported the Iranian people and Iran was turning around back to a Western society, you guys would be yelling about genocide of the Mullahs and radical Islamists.

 

[MisterBeale]

You're going to look awfully stupid in the near future.

I do hope you are right.

 

[MisterBeale]

Economically, via the blockade is one way (they don't make money, they can't pay troops)

That has worked so well with Cuba. Name just one time in history when a block-aid alone was sufficient to force another nation to accede to the block-aiding nation's will.

It is a fact.

If it were a fact you could us all a link to the congressional declaration of war.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Why not? There are nuclear weapons in North Korea, Israel, France, England, Pakistan, India.
Iran with nuclear weapons won't make any significant changes. Small nuclear arsenal provides only Minimal Deterrence, i.e. insurance against direct military invasion, and destruction of the state only. And even in this case, truly independent nuclear Iran might become more significant problem for Europe, Russia and China, not for America.

First, we want fewer nukes. Second, the U.S have allies in the region and yes, Israel is top of mind but there are others. They don't want Iran to have nukes either they just don't express it publicly. Third, we do not want to be enslaved by China and the deranged proxies they employ.

We constantly hear that Iran is the greatest funder of terrorism, this is not entirely true in my opinion. China is the greatest funder of local terrorism around the globe be it via spreading poisons that kill citizens, compromising politicians across governments (her discreetly I might add, the want all to be anti-American), encouraging open borders to destroy communities, the U.S and its allies.

Thus, it is time for Chinas global influence to wane and be challenged. Far better to do it now than when another insane regime have nukes.

Look, I hate war. I am almost as much an enigma as Trump. I operate on principle, not choosing sides in totality but always reminding any side on an issue I support "look in the mirror, who must we be"?

Iran cannot have a nuke. Is it the pretext for a larger agenda? Perhaps. Thst is secondary in some respects (argued it can be primary in others). The statement still stand though. If Chinas influence and ability to drive their global authoritarianism is further undermined, that is just a huge bonus.

 

[MisterBeale]

Why not? There are nuclear weapons in North Korea, Israel, France, England, Pakistan, India.
Iran with nuclear weapons won't make any significant changes. Small nuclear arsenal provides only Minimal Deterrence, i.e. insurance against direct military invasion, and destruction of the state only. And even in this case, truly independent nuclear Iran might become more significant problem for Europe, Russia and China, not for America.

These folks actually believe the war propaganda. They don't realize this is entirely about making Israel the regional hegemonic power. If the Trump administration's plans in Iran actually do succeed, a war between Turkey and Israel will be next.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iran was 2 weeks away in 2011

 

[MisterBeale]

It was either now or never with that maniac regime. All of you "everything is fine if we leave them alone" types are denying reality.

While I do not care for the regimen in Iran, I am aware that their primary goal, like any authoritarian regime, is its own survival and the survival of their nation.

I see this type of war propaganda all the time. It asserts that the government of Iran is not a rational international actor purely based on its past political rhetoric.

 

[protectionist]

I have stated this from the beginning. There is no backing out.
This WILL eventually lead to nukes and WW3. Get your shit in line because this old orange boomer piece of shit and his JEW handlers are going to end it all. There is no turning back.

Nah!!!

 

[protectionist]

While I do not care for the regimen in Iran, I am aware that their primary goal, like any authoritarian regime, is its own survival and the survival of their nation.

I see this type of war propaganda all the time. It asserts that the government of Iran is not a rational international actor purely based on its past political rhetoric.

Do you consider devout, terroist Islamists to be "rational" ?

 

[protectionist]

He can't continue the war in Iran, without the vote of Congress.....a vote was scheduled for today, but Mike Johnson sent them home....????

As shown by the recent primary elections, Republicans in Congress might need to back Trump 100%, if they want to be successful in November.

 

[Chuz Life]

As shown by the recent primary elections, Republicans in Congress might need to back Trump 100%, if they want to be successful in November.

Even if they voted. It wouldn't have been by a veto proof majority. Trump would have been able to see who's who. He knows already, anyway.

 

[Chuz Life]

First, we want fewer nukes. Second, the U.S have allies in the region and yes, Israel is top of mind but there are others. They don't want Iran to have nukes either they just don't express it publicly. Third, we do not want to be enslaved by China and the deranged proxies they employ.

We constantly hear that Iran is the greatest funder of terrorism, this is not entirely true in my opinion. China is the greatest funder of local terrorism around the globe be it via spreading poisons that kill citizens, compromising politicians across governments (her discreetly I might add, the want all to be anti-American), encouraging open borders to destroy communities, the U.S and its allies.

Thus, it is time for Chinas global influence to wane and be challenged. Far better to do it now than when another insane regime have nukes.

Look, I hate war. I am almost as much an enigma as Trump. I operate on ptincipke, not choosing sides in totality but always reminding any side on an issue I support "look in the mirror, who must we be"?

Iran cannot have a nuke. Is it the pretext for a larger agenda? Perhaps. Thst is secondary in some respects (argued it can be primary in others). The statement still stand though. If Chinas influence and ability to drive their global authoritarianism is further undermined, that is just a huge bonus.

I saw that video too.

If I find it again, I'll post it.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I saw that video too.

If I find it again, I'll post it.

Which video?

 

[protectionist]

He has? Have you looked at the terms provided to the Iranians?
-No nuclear program or any enrichment
-No ballistic program
-Regime change (initially).

Oh, those terms are so reasonable

They are absolutely reasonable (and at a MINIMUM)
Your problem is what you see as "reasonable"
Reasonable in this case is not bending to accomodate the IRGC. You dont seem to have a grasp on what is taking place here.

The IRGC is the reincarnation of sorts of the thousands of Muslims who were defeated by the Franks at the Battle of Tours in the 8th century.
The new version of the many thousands more Muslims who fulfilled the legacy of Mohammed (CONQUEST), by conquering more land than the Roman Empire at its height (from Spain to India).

They are the latest version of the Muslims who killed 270 Million people around the world, over the past 1400 years, and whose goal is a total Islamic planet, and nothing less. And the massacre of Oct 7 in Israel, is a drop in the bucket, compared to what awaits all of us, if these lunatics are not stopped 100%.

Regime change to a secular, peaceful Iran is what is absolutely necessary, and that probably cannot occur unless Islam is eliminated entirely in Iran (which is already happening with 2/3 of Iran's mosques converted into Christian churches & other uses).

 

[cnm]

Seriously, I don't really see all that much pressure to hurry up on Iran except that this is an election year.

If no election were looming to worry about, I could see us skating on Iran for many months just picking away at them until they fall apart.

If Europe doesn't like higher fuel costs, let them send in Spain, Italy, the UK and France to go straighten those mullahs out...

I still say once this is in the bag, the world owes us greatly for once again doing their dirty work.

Utter crap. **** the USA world bandits.

 

[protectionist]

I can't imagine living your high stress, one twist from the string breaking, life.


Gemini A/I___________

The war in Iran started on February 28, 2026.

Under the 1973 War Powers Resolution, a president must terminate unauthorized military actions within 60 days (plus a 30-day extension), meaning the statutory deadline for a congressional vote or troop withdrawal passed in late April or May.

However, Congress has been independently forcing votes on the conflict; the Senate recently advanced a War Powers Resolution on May 19, 2026,

while the House postponed its scheduled vote until after their June recess.

The resolution still faces challenges, including the need for approval in the House of Representatives and the certainty of a presidential veto.

Also the Senate could vote on it again (it voted 7 times before) and then defeat the resolution.

 

[protectionist]

And how is he going to do that?

Putting boots on the ground? resulting in many American casualties? Fighting for another country?

Just on time for Memorial Day?

Bad idea.

YES by putting boots on the ground. Americans need to realize how catastrophically important this is. Americans didn't hesitate to put boots on the ground in World War 2, and the IRGC is a much more dangerous threat to America (and the world) than was Hitler & Hirohito. They didn't have nuclear weapons, and an insane Islamic ideology that eliminates mutual deterrent.

I think many Americans are not realizing how big this is. Possibly if Kamala Harris had been elected, the USA might not even exist right now.

 

[MisterBeale]

Do you consider devout, terroist Islamists to be "rational" ?

Not particularly. Though I am nearly certain that it is only the war propaganda that has folks believing that the institutions and society in Iran are controlled by that sort of folk.