Life after America

My cousin is convinced that if Obama wins re-election, he will turn the Presidency into a Chavez-esque dictatorship, that is the first step towards an American Union, that will lead to a one-world government. I think he's an idiot. That's one reason I hope Obama wins. I really want to be proven right.

He's not an idiot, but I don't think it will go that far. If he wins re-election, he will do some major damage to this country economically and socially of the kind that we may never be able to recover from. It may get to the level of a dictatorship, down the road a piece.
 
Fair enough. I plan on living and defending my part of it.

Your response lacks passion.
I don't believe you.

I really don't care.

If you don't want to play this "what if" game then feel free to exit the thread.


But I am playing your 'what if' game. If America falls, you'll belong to the 'Fair Tribe' and I'll belong to the 'All Bets Are Off Tribe'. If your tribe is to last longer then my tribe, you'll have to drop words like 'fair' out of your vocabulary along with that concept out of your mind-set.
Your thread, carry on, and Adios! :smoke:
 
My cousin is convinced that if Obama wins re-election, he will turn the Presidency into a Chavez-esque dictatorship, that is the first step towards an American Union, that will lead to a one-world government. I think he's an idiot. That's one reason I hope Obama wins. I really want to be proven right.

He's not an idiot, but I don't think it will go that far. If he wins re-election, he will do some major damage to this country economically and socially of the kind that we may never be able to recover from. It may get to the level of a dictatorship, down the road a piece.

Well, if you don't think it'll get that far, then you're not the type of person I was calling an idiot in that post. However, what do you mean "may get to the level of a dictatorship"? Do you believe if Obama wins re-election, he will try to serve more than another four-year term?

I find it quite odd that Republicans can accuse Obama of "leading from behind" and also trying to gain absolute control over this country. How can someone who's shown no ability to even bully Congress expect to create a dictatorship?
 
Your response lacks passion.
I don't believe you.

I really don't care.

If you don't want to play this "what if" game then feel free to exit the thread.


But I am playing your 'what if' game. If America falls, you'll belong to the 'Fair Tribe' and I'll belong to the 'All Bets Are Off Tribe'. If your tribe is to last longer then my tribe, you'll have to drop words like 'fair' out of your vocabulary along with that concept out of your mind-set.
Your thread, carry on, and Adios! :smoke:

You already said you belonged to the tribe that would die protecting your part of America. You agreed that there wouldn't be an After America for you. I intend to survive AND protect my part.
 
My cousin is convinced that if Obama wins re-election, he will turn the Presidency into a Chavez-esque dictatorship, that is the first step towards an American Union, that will lead to a one-world government. I think he's an idiot. That's one reason I hope Obama wins. I really want to be proven right.

He's not an idiot, but I don't think it will go that far. If he wins re-election, he will do some major damage to this country economically and socially of the kind that we may never be able to recover from. It may get to the level of a dictatorship, down the road a piece.

Well, if you don't think it'll get that far, then you're not the type of person I was calling an idiot in that post. However, what do you mean "may get to the level of a dictatorship"? Do you believe if Obama wins re-election, he will try to serve more than another four-year term?

I find it quite odd that Republicans can accuse Obama of "leading from behind" and also trying to gain absolute control over this country. How can someone who's shown no ability to even bully Congress expect to create a dictatorship?

No, I believe that another term for Obama sets the wheels on motion for socialist dictatorship eventually.

Obama and the left are patient. They own the education and media in this country. With that, they know it's only a matter of time.
 
No, I believe that another term for Obama sets the wheels on motion for socialist dictatorship eventually.

Obama and the left are patient. They own the education and media in this country. With that, they know it's only a matter of time.

Oh. Then I think you're completely wrong. Then again, your proposal doesn't really have anything to do with Obama, but with a mythical super powerful American left.
 
If the ignorant voters of this country elect Barack Hussein Obama again, and if the even more ignorant OWS people gain in popularity and after 2013 the Democrat Party is still in charge, then what will we do?

Concider this:

1. Barack Hussein Obama will no longer need to care about re-election and can be as socialist as he really wants to be.

2. Can all of the conservative Supreme Court Justices keep going until 2016, or will Obama get a chance to tip the scales in favor of the liberals?

3. If Obamacare isn't repealed or defunded very soon, it might end up being too late to do anything meaningful about it and might be too late to save our economy.

4. Our schools are putting out graduates who are more and more leftwing and less and less educated (which goes hand in hand), and we may never get the pendulum to swing back.

5. Unless we can do something about our borders and the Mexican Invasion, it will be too late.

The young people today are going to suffer big time. Their children and grandchildren will suffer as well. I used to feel a sense of guilt because I grew up in the tail end of the baby boomers and it was the baby boomers that screwed everything up. However, watching them march on Wall Street without a clue of why they are there, and watching them vote for hope and change without knowing just exactly what that meant is watching them shoot themselves in the foot and I can just stand back and say "Hey, I tried to tell you it was stupid, but you did it anyway.

So now, I ask you. Worst case scenerio, what should we be doing to prepare for Obamageddon? I have guns (some of which are not registered to me), I have ammo, a generator and I have skills. I also have some .999 silver stashed away, only 20 ounces though. I'm thinking about stashing food as well.

Oh please, Obama isn't the one who started America's downfall....he's just following dictates the same as Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etcd.

Free trade, open borders...they've been wanting our down fall since WWII when we had the strongest middle class in the world, and not so coincidentally, the strongest country in the world.

Do away with the middle class, do away with America, they've been working at it a long time and what's really said is so many are thinking it's rich vs the poor and not realizing what has happened due to the word "class warfare". Guess what? We lost the war. Our middle class is now weaker than it was even during the gilded age, which led to the great depression, and you wonder why our economy is so bad???

Yeah so? What are you doing to prepare for that happening?

None of your beeswax.
 
He's not an idiot, but I don't think it will go that far. If he wins re-election, he will do some major damage to this country economically and socially of the kind that we may never be able to recover from. It may get to the level of a dictatorship, down the road a piece.

Well, if you don't think it'll get that far, then you're not the type of person I was calling an idiot in that post. However, what do you mean "may get to the level of a dictatorship"? Do you believe if Obama wins re-election, he will try to serve more than another four-year term?

I find it quite odd that Republicans can accuse Obama of "leading from behind" and also trying to gain absolute control over this country. How can someone who's shown no ability to even bully Congress expect to create a dictatorship?

No, I believe that another term for Obama sets the wheels on motion for socialist dictatorship eventually.

Obama and the left are patient. They own the education and media in this country. With that, they know it's only a matter of time.

Rupert Murdock is a republican and he owns the media in this country. That really should give you a clue. The dems and reps are so busy fighting each other, they don't see that both their parties sold out America a long time ago.
 
Oh please, Obama isn't the one who started America's downfall....he's just following dictates the same as Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etcd.

Free trade, open borders...they've been wanting our down fall since WWII when we had the strongest middle class in the world, and not so coincidentally, the strongest country in the world.

Do away with the middle class, do away with America, they've been working at it a long time and what's really said is so many are thinking it's rich vs the poor and not realizing what has happened due to the word "class warfare". Guess what? We lost the war. Our middle class is now weaker than it was even during the gilded age, which led to the great depression, and you wonder why our economy is so bad???

Yeah so? What are you doing to prepare for that happening?

None of your beeswax.


I already advised him to get the concept of fairness out of his mind to prepare. What I didn't tell him that I know of a high mountain pass in the state of XXXXXXXX with tons of tree cover, freshwater streams with trout, abundant tree cover, firewood galore, plenty of edible wildlife, with only one entrance in.
The only other thing I can add is, take the high-ground.
 
They will come from the air, B. KIdd. Your dream will end a nightmare for you.
 
They will come from the air, B. KIdd. Your dream will end a nightmare for you.

If it comes to the OP's scenario, I'm not looking to die from old age.
Just trying for a lil' more longevity, as opposed to a city-dweller.
BTW, I've had my plan since 2005, and trusted compadres' have agreed to join in, but they thought I was crazy until the economic crisis hit in 2008, and continues. They're mobile like me and can move on a moments notice.
Thanks for your concern; always liked you tho' I don't always agree with you. But that IS the way it should be.
 
No, I believe that another term for Obama sets the wheels on motion for socialist dictatorship eventually.

Obama and the left are patient. They own the education and media in this country. With that, they know it's only a matter of time.

Oh. Then I think you're completely wrong. Then again, your proposal doesn't really have anything to do with Obama, but with a mythical super powerful American left.

Of which Obama is the leader at the moment.
 
Oh please, Obama isn't the one who started America's downfall....he's just following dictates the same as Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etcd.

Free trade, open borders...they've been wanting our down fall since WWII when we had the strongest middle class in the world, and not so coincidentally, the strongest country in the world.

Do away with the middle class, do away with America, they've been working at it a long time and what's really said is so many are thinking it's rich vs the poor and not realizing what has happened due to the word "class warfare". Guess what? We lost the war. Our middle class is now weaker than it was even during the gilded age, which led to the great depression, and you wonder why our economy is so bad???

Yeah so? What are you doing to prepare for that happening?

None of your beeswax.


So you don't want to play the "what if" game, then feel free to exit the thread ====>
 
Well, if you don't think it'll get that far, then you're not the type of person I was calling an idiot in that post. However, what do you mean "may get to the level of a dictatorship"? Do you believe if Obama wins re-election, he will try to serve more than another four-year term?

I find it quite odd that Republicans can accuse Obama of "leading from behind" and also trying to gain absolute control over this country. How can someone who's shown no ability to even bully Congress expect to create a dictatorship?

No, I believe that another term for Obama sets the wheels on motion for socialist dictatorship eventually.

Obama and the left are patient. They own the education and media in this country. With that, they know it's only a matter of time.

Rupert Murdock is a republican and he owns the media in this country. That really should give you a clue. The dems and reps are so busy fighting each other, they don't see that both their parties sold out America a long time ago.

Murdock owns FOX, not any of the rest. It is you who has no clue.
 
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Just going straight to the last page to say:

"It won't matter, we will all be ZOMBIES anyway"
 
Yeah so? What are you doing to prepare for that happening?

None of your beeswax.


I already advised him to get the concept of fairness out of his mind to prepare. What I didn't tell him that I know of a high mountain pass in the state of XXXXXXXX with tons of tree cover, freshwater streams with trout, abundant tree cover, firewood galore, plenty of edible wildlife, with only one entrance in.
The only other thing I can add is, take the high-ground.

You misrepresented my position. It has nothing to do with fairness. When the country is destroyed, fairness is out the window.
 

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