- May 10, 2007
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I think basing foreign policy decisions on what this guy says is just as ill-advised as basing foreign policy decision on what is thought and said by servicemen who support this war.
Having said that, I think this article is enlightening in that it destroys the idea that the military is completely united in their support for this war when clearly that is not the case. The military is souring on this war just as the American public is souring on it... and we should expect their opinions to mirror the opinions of the public at large. Claiming otherwise is simply pro-Bush, pro-war propaganda.
No one has ever said the Military was UNITED. The military is made up of Volunteer citizens, it is going to have a multitude of opinions. But then you already know that, this is just your attempt to sway someone to gullable to recognize your "slant"
As for my support of Bush.... I had 2 choices in 2004, and Kerry was a no brainer. He is now our President and he is doing what needs to be done, in MY OPINION. Bush is not right of center, or rather if he is it is slight at best. So claiming people that support him are rightwing ideologues is ludicrous.
I do NOT now nor will I ever remain silent when a wrong is committed no matter who is at fault. Your ubnreasoning hatred of a man is laughable if it were not so destructive for this country. Your admitted acceptance of anyone that will support what you support is a prime example of WHY Liberals are dangerous. Your statement that the ends justify the means is ignorant and immoral.
If you think the extent of what I do is post the results of polls and cut and paste op-ed pieces, then you are willfully blind.
I understand why fewer Americans voted for Bush than for Gore...he was a weak candidate.
I understand why more people voted for Bush that Kerry. Kerry was an even weaker candidate.
I do not understand why ANYONE continues to support this immoral war in Iraq.
And if you would like to post the quote from me where I said that the ends justify the means, and put it in any proper context that means anything other than I am as perfectly happy to accept the votes of the lunatic left for democratic candidates just as YOU are to accept the votes of lunatic right republican candidates, please do so...or admit you are twisting MY words while cowardly walking away from you own.
"In 2003, 2004, 100 percent of the soldiers wanted to be here, to fight this war," said Sergeant First Class David Moore, a self-described "conservative Texas Republican" and platoon sergeant who strongly advocates an American withdrawal. "Now, 95 percent of my platoon agrees with me."
It is not a question of loyalty, the soldiers insist. Safstrom, for example, comes from a thoroughly military family. His mother and father have served in the armed forces, as have his three sisters, one brother and several uncles. One week after the Sept. 11 attacks, he walked into a recruiter's office and joined the army.
"You guys want to start a fight in my backyard, I got something for you," he recalls thinking at the time.
But in Safstrom's view, the American presence is futile. "If we stayed here for 5, even 10 more years, the day we leave here these guys will go crazy," he said. "It would go straight into a civil war. That's how it feels, like we're putting a Band-Aid on this country until we leave here."
do you honestly think that the opinions of ground troops in Iraq should be used when deciding American foreign policy?
The liar and the coward would be the one that can not even own up to HIS words. The discussion was NEVER about unknown voters, it was and is about people in the party that have standing and authority, that speak FOR the party as elected or appointed authority figures. In the specific case on this board it is about, as you full well know, allowing the rantings of lunatics to speak for you, to paint you as willing to accept them simply because , in your words " they have no real power". I and the republican party DO in fact hold everyone accountable for their actions and their words.
Remind me again how the Democrats have kicked out of the party the Lunatic left, I can remind you how the republican party kicked out the Lunatic right.... Remind me again how on this board you noted the idiocy of your "fellow" liberals? I can show YOU were I questioned my "fellow" apparent rightwinger....
Remind me of that list of democrats that have resigned or been forced out by the leadership in the House and Senate? I can get you the names of the Republicans that have resigned or been removed from positions of power. Not only do the criminals in the democratic party not resign, they run for reelection with the FULL support of the party and receive positions of importance in Congress. So much for the " Most Ethical" Congress ever. Catch a democrat breaking the law? No problem since the press won't talk about it just pretend it never happened. BUT wait look, these investigations found nothing wrong, lets redo them cause they involve Republicans.
Republicans fell all over themselves giving money back in a certain scandal , meanwhile not one dime was returned by the democrats that the same guy "bribed". And of course our fair and impartial media couldn't be bothered with pointing out the democrats involved, nor the fact they kept the money.
I agree there is no remedy for the past possible stolen elections.
But if we want to save this country Votes Must Count.
No more disenfranchising voters with these sleazy tactics and If my party ever tries to use these underhanded methods to win I will turn against them in a red hot second.