Leader Of Dem Sit-in Was On No-Fly List Himself

[mudwhistle]

In the rush to take our guns, the hypocrisy by Democrats is glaring. Democrats think that love will protect us from a terrorist attack. Obama just released another terrorist from GITMO, most of which have gone back to terrorism, yet he and the Dems want to use an attack, the cause of which can be directly linked to the White House, as a reason to take away our rights. All of this screaming and yelling over a bill that will not save one single life.



Rep Lewis Was Once On The No-Fly List He Wants To Use To Restrict Gun Rights

Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list he now wants to use to restrict gun ownership for U.S. citizens.

Lewis staged a “sit-in” at the House of Representatives Wednesday to call for a law barring people on the federal no-fly list from purchasing guns. But Lewis himself was erroneously put on the list at one point for an entire year, meaning he would have been unable to buy a gun had his new proposal been law.

Several different gun control measures have been circulating in Congress in the wake of Omar Mateen’s June 12 shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida. One of the proposals would ban anybody on the federal government’s no-fly list from purchasing a gun. In the House, Lewis has become a champion of such a rule, leading an occupation of the House floor to demand a vote on the measure.




Lewis may view the no-fly list as a good vehicle for stopping terrorists from getting weapons. But terrorists wouldn’t be the only people hindered by Collins’ proposal. In fact, if such a law had existed a decade ago, Lewis himself would have been victimized by it.

Press accounts from 2004 to 2008 reveal that Lewis’ name somehow ended up on the federal no-fly list, and remained there for years despite his best efforts to get it off. In 2004, he claimed he was stopped 35 to 40 times in a single year by airport personnel who tried to keep him from flying. Presumably, if the “no fly, no gun” law had been in place then, Lewis would have had even more trouble buying a gun than he had getting on a plane.

Lewis isn’t the only prominent person to have trouble with the no-fly list, as Sen. Ted Kennedy and singer Cat Stevens also claimed they were mistakenly placed on it. Their experiences illustrate one of the chief criticisms of the no-fly list: That it can limit individual rights while giving individuals very limited power to fight back.

According to the FBI, the current no-fly list has about 81,000 names, although only a few hundred of them are Americans.​

 

[LoneLaugher]

Your intro in that post is 100% bullshit.

 

[mudwhistle]

Your intro in that post is 100% bullshit.

Whaaaaaaaaa!!!

We want your guns!!!!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Your intro in that post is 100% bullshit.

Whaaaaaaaaa!!!

We want your guns!!!!

Every statement you made in the intro is inaccurate. Does that win you some kind of nutbag prize?

 

[mudwhistle]

The Democrats Solution To Terrorism

 

[Skull Pilot]

In the rush to take our guns, the hypocrisy by Democrats is glaring. Democrats think that love will protect us from a terrorist attack. Obama just released another terrorist from GITMO, most of which have gone back to terrorism, yet he and the Dems want to use an attack, the cause of which can be directly linked to the White House, as a reason to take away our rights. All of this screaming and yelling over a bill that will not save one single life.



Rep Lewis Was Once On The No-Fly List He Wants To Use To Restrict Gun Rights

Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list he now wants to use to restrict gun ownership for U.S. citizens.

Lewis staged a “sit-in” at the House of Representatives Wednesday to call for a law barring people on the federal no-fly list from purchasing guns. But Lewis himself was erroneously put on the list at one point for an entire year, meaning he would have been unable to buy a gun had his new proposal been law.

Several different gun control measures have been circulating in Congress in the wake of Omar Mateen’s June 12 shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida. One of the proposals would ban anybody on the federal government’s no-fly list from purchasing a gun. In the House, Lewis has become a champion of such a rule, leading an occupation of the House floor to demand a vote on the measure.




Lewis may view the no-fly list as a good vehicle for stopping terrorists from getting weapons. But terrorists wouldn’t be the only people hindered by Collins’ proposal. In fact, if such a law had existed a decade ago, Lewis himself would have been victimized by it.

Press accounts from 2004 to 2008 reveal that Lewis’ name somehow ended up on the federal no-fly list, and remained there for years despite his best efforts to get it off. In 2004, he claimed he was stopped 35 to 40 times in a single year by airport personnel who tried to keep him from flying. Presumably, if the “no fly, no gun” law had been in place then, Lewis would have had even more trouble buying a gun than he had getting on a plane.

Lewis isn’t the only prominent person to have trouble with the no-fly list, as Sen. Ted Kennedy and singer Cat Stevens also claimed they were mistakenly placed on it. Their experiences illustrate one of the chief criticisms of the no-fly list: That it can limit individual rights while giving individuals very limited power to fight back.

According to the FBI, the current no-fly list has about 81,000 names, although only a few hundred of them are Americans.​

You mean we let terrorists on the no fly list hold public office?

We should strip him of his office and throw the fucker in Gitmo

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list"

And?

The no fly list is not an issue by which to remove gun rights of all Americans.

Anyone who opposes blocking gun sales to those on the no fly list are terrorist sympathizers.

 

[mudwhistle]

In the rush to take our guns, the hypocrisy by Democrats is glaring. Democrats think that love will protect us from a terrorist attack. Obama just released another terrorist from GITMO, most of which have gone back to terrorism, yet he and the Dems want to use an attack, the cause of which can be directly linked to the White House, as a reason to take away our rights. All of this screaming and yelling over a bill that will not save one single life.



Rep Lewis Was Once On The No-Fly List He Wants To Use To Restrict Gun Rights

Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list he now wants to use to restrict gun ownership for U.S. citizens.

Lewis staged a “sit-in” at the House of Representatives Wednesday to call for a law barring people on the federal no-fly list from purchasing guns. But Lewis himself was erroneously put on the list at one point for an entire year, meaning he would have been unable to buy a gun had his new proposal been law.

Several different gun control measures have been circulating in Congress in the wake of Omar Mateen’s June 12 shooting spree at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida. One of the proposals would ban anybody on the federal government’s no-fly list from purchasing a gun. In the House, Lewis has become a champion of such a rule, leading an occupation of the House floor to demand a vote on the measure.




Lewis may view the no-fly list as a good vehicle for stopping terrorists from getting weapons. But terrorists wouldn’t be the only people hindered by Collins’ proposal. In fact, if such a law had existed a decade ago, Lewis himself would have been victimized by it.

Press accounts from 2004 to 2008 reveal that Lewis’ name somehow ended up on the federal no-fly list, and remained there for years despite his best efforts to get it off. In 2004, he claimed he was stopped 35 to 40 times in a single year by airport personnel who tried to keep him from flying. Presumably, if the “no fly, no gun” law had been in place then, Lewis would have had even more trouble buying a gun than he had getting on a plane.

Lewis isn’t the only prominent person to have trouble with the no-fly list, as Sen. Ted Kennedy and singer Cat Stevens also claimed they were mistakenly placed on it. Their experiences illustrate one of the chief criticisms of the no-fly list: That it can limit individual rights while giving individuals very limited power to fight back.

According to the FBI, the current no-fly list has about 81,000 names, although only a few hundred of them are Americans.​

You mean we let terrorists on the no fly list hold public office?

We should strip him of his office and throw the fucker in Gitmo

Ever since Obama was caught red-handed, giving guns to drug cartels, I have been predicting that Obama would set up the conditions needed for attacks like the one in Orlando so Democrats could use it to take away our rights to gun ownership.

I was right.

Obama had this guy on a terrorist watch list and took him off of it so he could buy the guns he used in the attack. Omar Mateen used Obama's bombing campaign in Iraq as motivation for the attack, and after the fact, the Obama Justice Department attempted to remove any mention of ISIS or religion, specifically Islam, in the transcripts. This is a coverup folks.

 

[mudwhistle]

"Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list"

And?

The no fly list is not an issue by which to remove gun rights of all Americans.

Anyone who opposes blocking gun sales to those on the no fly list are terrorist sympathizers.

Then Democrats are terrorist sympathizers, because they refused to work with Republicans and pass a bill.

 

[Skull Pilot]

"Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list"

And?

The no fly list is not an issue by which to remove gun rights of all Americans.

Anyone who opposes blocking gun sales to those on the no fly list are terrorist sympathizers.

Anyone who thinks a terrorist on the no fly list should hold public office is a traitor

 

[JakeStarkey]

Skull has never been a sharp thinker! Read your silly post.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Show us Obama "caught red-handed, giving guns to drug cartels."

 

[mudwhistle]

Show us Obama "caught red-handed, giving guns to drug cartels."

Yup. It's a fact.

Look up Fast & Furious program and the facts are undeniable.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Show us Obama "caught red-handed, giving guns to drug cartels."

Yup. It's a fact.

Look up Fast & Furious program and the facts are undeniable.

You don't have any evidence do you that Obama gave such guns, do you?

 

[dannyboys]

"SHIT! So now I'm on the 'no-fly' list so that means under the new law I can't legally buy a gun! SHIT!
There goes my chances of ever getting any guns with which I intended to massacre as many innocent 'non-believers' as I could. SHIT! Guess this means I'll just have to cancel my road trip to the 'Gun Free Zone in SF. I was going rent a fucking Mustang and everything!"!

 

[hadit]

"Democratic Rep. John Lewis was erroneously put on the no-fly list"

And?

The no fly list is not an issue by which to remove gun rights of all Americans.

Anyone who opposes blocking gun sales to those on the no fly list are terrorist sympathizers.

Until we know how and why a person gets on any of those lists and they can quickly and easily have their name removed, you are full of it, people's rights can be violated with no due process and no recourse.

 

[Old Rocks]

There will be another massacre by some kind of crazy for some other reason, and once again, we will find that there were all kinds of warning signs, but the NRA and the fruitloops here are more worried about the profits of the merchants of death than the safety of citizens.

There is no rational reason for citizens to own the modern weapons of war. Guns that were designed specifically for killing other humans and no other purpose. There have been many suggestions as to how to allow these weapons for citizens but keep them out of the hands of the crazies. And the gun nuts and NRA have scuttled everyone of them. At some point, the general population will tire of the slaughter and outlaw the ownership of the assault weapons. And you fools will have only yourselves to blame.

 

[DGS49]

(1) Every member of Congress swears an Oath of Office, promising to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

(2) The Second Amendment affirms every American's individual right to "...keep and bear arms." (The right is granted by God, and protected by Government).

(3) The Fifth Amendment states that Americans shall not be deprived of "...life, liberty, or property..." without "due process of law."

(4) The laws on which the Democrats are "demanding" a vote would deprive Americans of the right to purchase (and own) firearms if they are found on a list that is generated without "due process," on the theory that such persons could probably, after spending time and money in some court, have their names removed from the "no-fly" list. This provision would be blatantly unconstitutional, as pointed out by the Speaker of the House. Consequently, he decreed that the House will (and should) not vote on a measure that it knows to be unconstitutional.

(5) Nothing in the proposed legislation would have prevented or significantly altered any aspect of the recent mass killings, other than the tools that were chosen to carry out those killings. It is like noting the large number of people killed in traffic accidents involving Chevy's, then making Chevy's illegal in the hope that that will stop traffic fatalities. It is mere silliness.

(6) The "Negro" legislators participating in this farce should be censured for their dishonesty. The problem in the "Black" community is not assault weapons or people on the "no fly" list buying guns. It is the devaluation of human life brought about by the welfare state.

Until someone comes up with a concept that can be Constitutionally implemented in a law or regulation that can have a significant impact on these lone-wolf mass-killers, Congress should have the humility to recognize that it is pointless to pass stupid laws (e.g., the creation of TSA) in response to any bad event or circumstance.

 

[mudwhistle]

Show us Obama "caught red-handed, giving guns to drug cartels."

Yup. It's a fact.

Look up Fast & Furious program and the facts are undeniable.

You don't have any evidence do you that Obama gave such guns, do you?

Yes......‘Fast & Furious’ rifle capable of taking down helicopter found in 'El Chapo' cache | Fox News

 

[mudwhistle]

(1) Every member of Congress swears an Oath of Office, promising to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

(2) The Second Amendment affirms every American's individual right to "...keep and bear arms." (The right is granted by God, and protected by Government).

(3) The Fifth Amendment states that Americans shall not be deprived of "...life, liberty, or property..." without "due process of law."

(4) The laws on which the Democrats are "demanding" a vote would deprive Americans of the right to purchase (and own) firearms if they are found on a list that is generated without "due process," on the theory that such persons could probably, after spending time and money in some court, have their names removed from the "no-fly" list. This provision would be blatantly unconstitutional, as pointed out by the Speaker of the House. Consequently, he decreed that the House will (and should) not vote on a measure that it knows to be unconstitutional.

(5) Nothing in the proposed legislation would have prevented or significantly altered any aspect of the recent mass killings, other than the tools that were chosen to carry out those killings. It is like noting the large number of people killed in traffic accidents involving Chevy's, then making Chevy's illegal in the hope that that will stop traffic fatalities. It is mere silliness.

(6) The "Negro" legislators participating in this farce should be censured for their dishonesty. The problem in the "Black" community is not assault weapons or people on the "no fly" list buying guns. It is the devaluation of human life brought about by the welfare state.

Until someone comes up with a concept that can be Constitutionally implemented in a law or regulation that can have a significant impact on these lone-wolf mass-killers, Congress should have the humility to recognize that it is pointless to pass stupid laws (e.g., the creation of TSA) in response to any bad event or circumstance.

Such laws can and will be misused.

Secret lists compiled by the government takes away due process and by definition is unconstitutional.

Democrats could serve the public better by addressing the root cause of this attack, but instead refuse to admit it exists. Instead they bung up the system, bully and harass, and generally make spectacles of themselves so they can start fundraisers to help them in the upcoming election.