Kiss Your Ass Good By. Part 2.

[professor]

If you are concerned about carbon foot print just stop breathing.

Personally I'm not concerned with it so I fully intend to enjoy every breath taken and exhaled.

My stopping breathing wouldn't solve the problem. But it would keep me from pointing the finger of blame. Next, there will come a time where you will be concerned. I wonder what you will say then. Will you ask jeezus for forgiveness?

Well we do know who the great accuser is now don't we. I know who you serve so there will be no need to ask forgiveness for standing on the truth on my part.

Science doesn't back it up. But let's just say for laughs I am wrong. What's the worst could happen. We start living more in balance with nature. But we both know what the worst would be if you are wrong. And you call that 'truth?" Also, when the worst happens, what will your "forgiveness" by Jeezus be worth.

Peddle your crap to someone else who may buy it.

Did you read my thread? Tell me what is in it that you don't buy.

I have no reason to read your whole thread.

Even universal seasons change. The earth is in one of those periods now.

Carbon is used by plants to grow. Current solar also comes with negatives just like all energy sources currently used.

And truthfully I've decided by your postings I don't like you well enough to spend any more time with you in any manner.

Well then put me on ignore. Do it now! You won't be missed.

 

[petro]

What happened to part 1? Too truthful I guess. Interesting thing about you doomsday cultists. Nobody cares that they are bringing doom about. But somebody says it will happen on a certain date and the cultists are all ears. It's disgusting! All such people deserve to die. The problem is that they will take those who don't deserve it along with them.

For where I live, this has been the hottest summer I remember. This is probably due to human caused global warming. Which is most likely to be exponential. I remember seeing something on the news a while back where they said that the oceans were 60% warmer than what scientists had predicted they would be. I also saw another program where they talked about a particular glacier. They said that it was melting 10 time faster than what scientists predicted it would be. These things are likely that exponential thing rising its ugly head.

There is somebody out there who is either evil or stupid. (Maybe both) His name is Al Gore. He is supposedly all about stopping human caused global warming. But I think he is secretly in the pay of the energy industry. After all, Lenin once said, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." In his sequel to "An inconvenient truth," he again brought up the bullshit about what ocean levels would be in the year 2100. But it is unlikely any humans will be around to see the year 2050.

Ever increasing CO2 levels are a large part of the reason. But as far as I can see, the main reason is methane release. Methane is 86 times more potent of a greenhouse gas than CO2. And the more of it that gets released, the faster things will get even hotter. Releasing even more methane and making things even hotter. In a sort of feedback loop. There are two main sources for this methane. Methane locked up in permafrost in cold climates and methane that exists as methane hydrate ice on the sea floor. I have a graph to show you. Along with part of a statement that talks about our current release of CO2 and the amount that brought about the Permian extinction. The last thing is a picture showing methane release from the sea floor. Denial isn't going to save you.

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As you launch an attack on "doomsday cultists", you then proceed to post a doomsday thread.

I don't think you really understand who really is the doomsday cultist here.

The normal doomsday cultists see the doom coming from god. The doom I speak of is caused by humans. And backed by science. Do you think science is a cult? Or do you think I shouldn't have spoken of it because it included doom?

The science says you are contributing to the problem by posting here.
I suggest to immediately stop posting, throw away all electronics and comforts, and go live in a box down by the river.
Go green.
Walk the walk.

That would make it easier for you to live and spread your lies. Wouldn't it.

No.
That would make it easier for me to use the gasoline you don't to feed my hungry Hemi that tows my thirsty boat and snowmobiles, while you are living the green life down by the river showing us all how you walked the walk.

I will wave from my waterskiing run.

 

[ReinyDays]

Did you read my thread? Tell me what is in it that you don't buy.

Going to jump in right here ... I don't think you're familiar with the behaviors of "exponential things" ... I don't mean to highjack, and I promise to return to the subject at hand ... but I get this image of the Black Pool just outside the west gate to the Mines of Moria ... a giant hideous corduroy creature blabbering logarithmic tables emerges and eats our heroes ... yeah ... an exponential thing ...

I understand that to the "man on the streets", the word `exponential` has a general meaning ... and that's fine if you had stopped there ... but then you had to go and bring up science ... and in science, `exponential` has a very very specific and exact meaning ... either f(x) = x^n or f(x) = n^x ... for your doomsday scenario, we'll be required to have both n and x greater than 1 ... and that's not the case, demonstrated 100 years ago that this effect is a fourth root equation ... f(x) = x^0.25 ... thus our temperature increase becomes less the more CO2 we produce ... so it didn't take much CO2 to raise temps 1ºC, but it will take more CO2 to raise the next degree, even more for the next ... and there's probably not enough fossil fuels in the Earth to raise temps any more ... boom ... 2ºC increase over the next hundred years and effectively flat lined after that ... though for fairness, the IPCC gives 400 years from now to obtain our +3ºC increase over today ...

Ah .. the specifics ... T^4 = S(1-a)/4eo where T= temperature, S = the solar constant, a = albedo, e = emissivity and o = Stefen/Boltzmann constant

 

[ReinyDays]

Well then put me on ignore. Do it now! You won't be missed.

How do we put somebody on stalk? ... so we know everytime a poster posts and can sweep in calling him a filthy racist bastard ... not the OP ... but more of a generalized question ... honest ...

 

[ding]

Which is most likely to be exponential.

Ummm.... it's not exponential temperature increases. It's that it takes exponentially more CO2 to keep raising the temperature.

CO2	w/m^2	w/m^2	Incremental C	Cumulative C
20	16.03	16.03	12.02	12.02
40	3.71	19.74	2.78	14.80
60	2.17	21.90	1.63	16.43
80	1.54	23.44	1.15	17.58
100	1.19	24.64	0.90	18.48
120	0.98	25.61	0.73	19.21
140	0.82	26.44	0.62	19.83
160	0.71	27.15	0.54	20.36
180	0.63	27.78	0.47	20.84
200	0.56	28.35	0.42	21.26
220	0.51	28.86	0.38	21.64
240	0.47	29.32	0.35	21.99
260	0.43	29.75	0.32	22.31
280	0.40	30.15	0.30	22.61
300	0.37	30.52	0.28	22.89
320	0.35	30.86	0.26	23.15
340	0.32	31.18	0.24	23.39
360	0.31	31.49	0.23	23.62
380	0.29	31.78	0.22	23.83
400	0.27	32.05	0.21	24.04
420	0.26	32.32	0.20	24.24
440	0.25	32.56	0.19	24.42
460	0.24	32.80	0.18	24.60
480	0.23	33.03	0.17	24.77
500	0.22	33.25	0.16	24.94
520	0.21	33.46	0.16	25.09
540	0.20	33.66	0.15	25.24
560	0.19	33.85	0.15	25.39
580	0.19	34.04	0.14	25.53
600	0.18	34.22	0.14	25.67
620	0.18	34.40	0.13	25.80
640	0.17	34.57	0.13	25.93
660	0.16	34.73	0.12	26.05
680	0.16	34.89	0.12	26.17
700	0.16	35.05	0.12	26.29
720	0.15	35.20	0.11	26.40
740	0.15	35.35	0.11	26.51
760	0.14	35.49	0.11	26.62
780	0.14	35.63	0.10	26.72
800	0.14	35.76	0.10	26.82
820	0.13	35.89	0.10	26.92
840	0.13	36.02	0.10	27.02
860	0.13	36.15	0.09	27.11
880	0.12	36.27	0.09	27.20
900	0.12	36.39	0.09	27.29
920	0.12	36.51	0.09	27.38
940	0.12	36.63	0.09	27.47
960	0.11	36.74	0.08	27.55
980	0.11	36.85	0.08	27.64
1000	0.11	36.96	0.08	27.72
1020	0.11	37.06	0.08	27.80
1040	0.10	37.17	0.08	27.87
1060	0.10	37.27	0.08	27.95
1080	0.10	37.37	0.08	28.03
1100	0.10	37.47	0.07	28.10
1120	0.10	37.56	0.07	28.17
1140	0.09	37.66	0.07	28.24
1160	0.09	37.75	0.07	28.31
1180	0.09	37.84	0.07	28.38
1200	0.09	37.93	0.07	28.45
1220	0.09	38.02	0.07	28.52
1240	0.09	38.11	0.07	28.58
1260	0.09	38.19	0.06	28.64
1280	0.08	38.28	0.06	28.71
1300	0.08	38.36	0.06	28.77
1320	0.08	38.44	0.06	28.83
1340	0.08	38.52	0.06	28.89
1360	0.08	38.60	0.06	28.95
1380	0.08	38.68	0.06	29.01
1400	0.08	38.76	0.06	29.07
1420	0.08	38.83	0.06	29.12
1440	0.07	38.91	0.06	29.18
1460	0.07	38.98	0.06	29.24
1480	0.07	39.05	0.05	29.29
1500	0.07	39.13	0.05	29.34
1520	0.07	39.20	0.05	29.40
1540	0.07	39.27	0.05	29.45
1560	0.07	39.34	0.05	29.50
1580	0.07	39.40	0.05	29.55
1600	0.07	39.47	0.05	29.60
1620	0.07	39.54	0.05	29.65
1640	0.07	39.60	0.05	29.70
1660	0.06	39.67	0.05	29.75
1680	0.06	39.73	0.05	29.80
1700	0.06	39.80	0.05	29.85
1720	0.06	39.86	0.05	29.89
1740	0.06	39.92	0.05	29.94
1760	0.06	39.98	0.05	29.99
1780	0.06	40.04	0.05	30.03
1800	0.06	40.10	0.04	30.08
1820	0.06	40.16	0.04	30.12
1840	0.06	40.22	0.04	30.16
1860	0.06	40.28	0.04	30.21
1880	0.06	40.33	0.04	30.25
1900	0.06	40.39	0.04	30.29
1920	0.06	40.45	0.04	30.33
1940	0.06	40.50	0.04	30.38
1960	0.05	40.56	0.04	30.42
1980	0.05	40.61	0.04	30.46
2000	0.05	40.66	0.04	30.50
2020	0.05	40.72	0.04	30.54
2040	0.05	40.77	0.04	30.58
2060	0.05	40.82	0.04	30.62
2080	0.05	40.87	0.04	30.66
2100	0.05	40.93	0.04	30.69
2120	0.05	40.98	0.04	30.73
2140	0.05	41.03	0.04	30.77
2160	0.05	41.08	0.04	30.81
2180	0.05	41.13	0.04	30.84
2200	0.05	41.17	0.04	30.88
2220	0.05	41.22	0.04	30.92
2240	0.05	41.27	0.04	30.95
2260	0.05	41.32	0.04	30.99
2280	0.05	41.37	0.04	31.02
2300	0.05	41.41	0.04	31.06
2320	0.05	41.46	0.03	31.09
2340	0.05	41.50	0.03	31.13
2360	0.05	41.55	0.03	31.16
2380	0.05	41.60	0.03	31.20
2400	0.04	41.64	0.03	31.23
2420	0.04	41.68	0.03	31.26
2440	0.04	41.73	0.03	31.30
2460	0.04	41.77	0.03	31.33
2480	0.04	41.82	0.03	31.36
2500	0.04	41.86	0.03	31.39
2520	0.04	41.90	0.03	31.43
2540	0.04	41.94	0.03	31.46
2560	0.04	41.99	0.03	31.49
2580	0.04	42.03	0.03	31.52
2600	0.04	42.07	0.03	31.55
2620	0.04	42.11	0.03	31.58
2640	0.04	42.15	0.03	31.61
2660	0.04	42.19	0.03	31.64
2680	0.04	42.23	0.03	31.67
2700	0.04	42.27	0.03	31.70
2720	0.04	42.31	0.03	31.73
2740	0.04	42.35	0.03	31.76
2760	0.04	42.39	0.03	31.79
2780	0.04	42.43	0.03	31.82
2800	0.04	42.46	0.03	31.85
2820	0.04	42.50	0.03	31.88
2840	0.04	42.54	0.03	31.91
2860	0.04	42.58	0.03	31.93
2880	0.04	42.62	0.03	31.96
2900	0.04	42.65	0.03	31.99
2920	0.04	42.69	0.03	32.02
2940	0.04	42.73	0.03	32.04
2960	0.04	42.76	0.03	32.07
2980	0.04	42.80	0.03	32.10
3000	0.04	42.83	0.03	32.13
3020	0.04	42.87	0.03	32.15
3040	0.04	42.90	0.03	32.18
3060	0.04	42.94	0.03	32.21
3080	0.03	42.97	0.03	32.23
3100	0.03	43.01	0.03	32.26
3120	0.03	43.04	0.03	32.28
3140	0.03	43.08	0.03	32.31
3160	0.03	43.11	0.03	32.33
3180	0.03	43.15	0.03	32.36
3200	0.03	43.18	0.03	32.38
3220	0.03	43.21	0.03	32.41
3240	0.03	43.25	0.02	32.43
3260	0.03	43.28	0.02	32.46
3280	0.03	43.31	0.02	32.48
3300	0.03	43.34	0.02	32.51
3320	0.03	43.38	0.02	32.53
3340	0.03	43.41	0.02	32.56
3360	0.03	43.44	0.02	32.58
3380	0.03	43.47	0.02	32.60
3400	0.03	43.50	0.02	32.63
3420	0.03	43.54	0.02	32.65
3440	0.03	43.57	0.02	32.67
3460	0.03	43.60	0.02	32.70
3480	0.03	43.63	0.02	32.72
3500	0.03	43.66	0.02	32.74