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CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."

 
This is desperation by the Alberta government, and I don't blame them in some respects.

Canadas economy has been crushed, particularly in Alberta. They have flatlined worse than the rest of this gimmick economy.
 
Oh well. We now get to have another country use eminent domain for 75 permenant jobs. What a deal!
Go murica
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?


Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"

 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"


China? How many refineries does China have that can refine that sludge?

Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

I do, that's why when I see errors, I have to ask questions.
See if I can find where the error came from.
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"


China? How many refineries does China have that can refine that sludge?

Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

I do, that's why when I see errors, I have to ask questions.
See if I can find where the error came from.
Post the errors. And questions.
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"


China? How many refineries does China have that can refine that sludge?

Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

I do, that's why when I see errors, I have to ask questions.
See if I can find where the error came from.
Besides road building, it's also used in auto's as sound proofing.

 
My hillbilly bud said hes out at a marathon and regulars is a buck twenty freaking nine ...1.29

Texted the picture over on phone ...

99 cent coming

Last time I gassed super was 2.45
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"


China? How many refineries does China have that can refine that sludge?

Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

I do, that's why when I see errors, I have to ask questions.
See if I can find where the error came from.
Post the errors. And questions.

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Already asked.....

posing an elevated risk of explosion

I don't remember a lot of tar sand spill explosions. You have a list?
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that?

Where?

and when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—

Asphalt is highly volatile?
Texas. Then exported to places like China. Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

"The substance flowing through the Keystone pipeline is known as diluted bitumen, or “dilbit,” because the bitumen (the crude oil itself) is so thick and sticky it must be diluted in order to effectively flow through the system. The chemical mixture used to dilute it is a trade secret, but often includes benzene, a carcinogen. It also can be harder to clean up than conventional crude"


"MYTH#4:Keystone XL is safeFACT:Because raw tar sands bitumen is more corrosive and abrasive than normal crude oil, the risk of a spill is greater. The Alberta pipeline system (which carries diluted bitumen, the same product planned for KXL) has had approximately sixteen times as many spills due to internal corrosion as the U.S. system. Yet, thesafety and spill response standardsused by the UnitedStates to regulate pipeline transport of bitumen are designed for conventional oil. To make matters worse, the industry doesn’t know how to clean up this product after a spill–its unique composition means that traditional clean-up techniques don’t work (for example, unlike regular oil, diluted bitumen sinks in water)"


China? How many refineries does China have that can refine that sludge?

Do you ever read any links or articles on the subject?

I do, that's why when I see errors, I have to ask questions.
See if I can find where the error came from.
Besides road building, it's also used in auto's as sound proofing.


Sounds marginally useful. And a long way to go.
You must have some stats on Chinese imports of this from Texas.
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


Canada already exports 3.7 million barrels of oil a day to the US, most of it from the tar sands, including by pipeline.

oil-transportation-by-pipeline_2019.png


 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


Canada already exports 3.7 million barrels of oil a day to the US, most of it from the tar sands, including by pipeline.

oil-transportation-by-pipeline_2019.png




We dont import much at all from the m.e. yep yep canada is our biggest supplier ...mexico was 2 for a while ...their industry was in decline
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


Canada already exports 3.7 million barrels of oil a day to the US, most of it from the tar sands, including by pipeline.

oil-transportation-by-pipeline_2019.png


Ok
 
And that is awesome.

CALGARY – TC Energy Corp.’s decision to proceed with the long-delayed Keystone XL pipeline with the help of the Alberta government would allow the oilpatch to hit the ground running when prices recover.

“This is absolutely critical for our economic future now more than ever,” Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said in an interview with the Financial Post.

On Tuesday, TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada Corp., said it has decided to build the controversial pipeline with a US$1.1-billion “strategic investment” from the Alberta government.

The province is making a preferred equity investment in the 830,000-barrels-per-day pipeline project that would carry oil from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, home to the largest concentration of heavy oil refineries in the world.

That pipeline will carry Bitumen which is diluted asphalt. When it gets to it's destination, without leaking, guess where it goes after that? Trump has invested interest.

"Complicating matters, leaks can be difficult to detect. And when tar sands oil does spill, it’s highly volatile—posing an elevated risk of explosion—and more difficult to clean up than conventional crude."


Canada already exports 3.7 million barrels of oil a day to the US, most of it from the tar sands, including by pipeline.

oil-transportation-by-pipeline_2019.png


Do you think adding benzene to tar sand is safe under pressure when it mixes with air?
 
Do you think adding benzene to tar sand is safe under pressure when it mixes with air?

Don't know. I'm not a chemical engineer.

But let me tell you what the environmental crusaders don't seem to understand. If Keystone isn't built, that oil will be transported by either pipeline across Canada to the east coast ports, which will then be transported by oil tanker down the US east coast to the Gulf where they will dock in Louisiana and be transported to the refineries there. Or it will be carried by train into the US, and either transported to the Gulf Coast refineries or hooked into the US pipeline network and transported to the Gulf Coast refineries.

That's already happening. Either way, there is tremendous risk of a train derailment and explosions, or a tanker spill.

Keystone is just a symbolic issue for the environmentalists. I understand the NIMBY sentiment. But it has not and will not stop oil sands production.
 
Do you think adding benzene to tar sand is safe under pressure when it mixes with air?

Don't know. I'm not a chemical engineer.

But let me tell you what the environmental crusaders don't seem to understand. If Keystone isn't built, that oil will be transported by either pipeline across Canada to the east coast ports, which will then be transported by oil tanker down the US east coast to the Gulf where they will dock in Louisiana and be transported to the refineries there. Or it will be carried by train into the US, and either transported to the Gulf Coast refineries or hooked into the US pipeline network and transported to the Gulf Coast refineries.

That's already happening. Either way, there is tremendous risk of a train derailment and explosions, or a tanker spill.

Keystone is just a symbolic issue for the environmentalists. I understand the NIMBY sentiment. But it has not and will not stop oil sands production.
I don't suppose the poor spill record is already a problem? How long do you think that pipeline will hold up, as that crap is highly corrosive. Cleanups are near impossible any way you look at it.
 
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Do you think adding benzene to tar sand is safe under pressure when it mixes with air?

Don't know. I'm not a chemical engineer.

But let me tell you what the environmental crusaders don't seem to understand. If Keystone isn't built, that oil will be transported by either pipeline across Canada to the east coast ports, which will then be transported by oil tanker down the US east coast to the Gulf where they will dock in Louisiana and be transported to the refineries there. Or it will be carried by train into the US, and either transported to the Gulf Coast refineries or hooked into the US pipeline network and transported to the Gulf Coast refineries.

That's already happening. Either way, there is tremendous risk of a train derailment and explosions, or a tanker spill.

Keystone is just a symbolic issue for the environmentalists. I understand the NIMBY sentiment. But it has not and will not stop oil sands production.
I don't suppose the poor spill record is already a problem? How long do you think that pipeline will hold up, as that crap is highly corrosive. Cleanups are near impossible any way you look at it.

Let me interrupt and say what I am getting from Toro is you have three choices:

1. Send it on down on train to the refineries in Sulfur City, Lousiana or Texas.

2. Send it on a tanker to Baton Rouge, Lousiana which will still be sent by pipeline to Sulfur City, Louisiana or Texas.

3. Build the pipeline and send it down that way.

Either way on if not two of the three choices will be done, so which one is more logical and cheap for the oil industry?

I understand your concerns about the Environment but in the end it will be dogged up and shipped so the question is how do you want it to get to Louisiana and Texas and for the oil industry the cheaper the better so the pipeline is happening...
 

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