Justice Dept spies on millions of cars

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Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...
 
I remember when Liberals were for civil liberties. They pushed back on Nixon's attempt to spy on people, etc. Now they're merely fascists.
We'll see the usual cast of idiots in a minute coming along to justify this crap.
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...

So what happens when that government turns oppressive?
And why would the government even want to do this if they didnt plan on using the info?
This is very dangerous territory.
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...

So what happens when that government turns oppressive?
And why would the government even want to do this if they didnt plan on using the info?
This is very dangerous territory.
It already said what they started the program for and once you have data you figure out other things you can do with it. That is the nature of the beast. And if the government turns "oppressive", you won't have a chance in hell so stop worrying about it.
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...

So what happens when that government turns oppressive?
And why would the government even want to do this if they didnt plan on using the info?
This is very dangerous territory.
It already said what they started the program for and once you have data you figure out other things you can do with it. That is the nature of the beast. And if the government turns "oppressive", you won't have a chance in hell so stop worrying about it.

You're even more pathetic than I first assumed.
Wouldnt it be a better idea to demand change?
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...

So what happens when that government turns oppressive?
And why would the government even want to do this if they didnt plan on using the info?
This is very dangerous territory.
It already said what they started the program for and once you have data you figure out other things you can do with it. That is the nature of the beast. And if the government turns "oppressive", you won't have a chance in hell so stop worrying about it.

You're even more pathetic than I first assumed.
Wouldnt it be a better idea to demand change?
So demand the change but don't think that this database looking for drug dealers is anything but the tip of a very large iceberg, most of which you will never know about or have to worry about. They know, they just don't care. That is what passes for privacy these days.
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.

Have you tried covering your car in tin foil?

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Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes
They've had that for some time now but they aren't supposed to use it casually. The SC has already had a case on that said at the very least, you need a warrant.
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.

Have you tried covering your car in tin foil?
That would make it easy to cook a roast on the manifold. Done that before.
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes
They've had that for some time now but they aren't supposed to use it casually. The SC has already had a case on that said at the very least, you need a warrant.
So they use it, then get a warrant. Who's gonna know?
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes
They've had that for some time now but they aren't supposed to use it casually. The SC has already had a case on that said at the very least, you need a warrant.
So they use it, then get a warrant. Who's gonna know?
No one so tell your teenage daughter to keep her clothes on if you're cooking meth in the garage.
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes
They've had that for some time now but they aren't supposed to use it casually. The SC has already had a case on that said at the very least, you need a warrant.
So they use it, then get a warrant. Who's gonna know?
No one so tell your teenage daughter to keep her clothes on if you're cooking meth in the garage.
No kids...that I know of...but I've got a hell of a wang dang doodle if they want to see it.
 
I believe it's Progressive Insurance that's helping on this.

Know who owns Progressive? Peter Lewis, major league fascist pig. Has a portrait of Mao on his wall.

And yes, people. Fascism and socialism are the bastard children of the same whore.

Only dimocrap scum deny it.
 
Big Brother is, at last, watching you.

Some say that the Orwellian world where the government is looking through every crack, window, and TV set to keep track of you, just in case you are doing something wrong, never happened. It was fiction, was it not?

Turns out, Orwell got the date wrong, but not the agenda. And government is catching up rapidly.

The DOJ has been keeping millions of records in a huge database, of where people drove their cars, and when. The initial purpose was to keep track of possible drug dealers and transporters.

But the use of that database has been expanding to other government agencies having nothing to do with the drug trade.

And there is no sign the expansion of government intrusion into more and more of our formerly-private lives, is abating.

And the 4th amendment, which requires them to get a warrant from a judge to do so, and to present Probable Cause for believing you are breaking the law before getting that warrant, is nowhere to be found any more.

If you thought the government phone-spying scandal, where govt keeps track of data on millions (trillions?) of phone calls (again without the required warrant) was big, that's nothing compared to this one.

The trend is unmistakable.

Aren't you GLAD you voted for Big Government?

-----------------------------------------

Justice Department spies on millions of cars WSJ - Yahoo News

Justice Department spies on millions of cars: WSJ

Reuters
15 hours ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has been secretly gathering and storing hundreds of millions of records about motorists in an effort to build a national database that tracks the movement of vehicles across the country, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper said the main aim of the license plate tracking program run by the Drug Enforcement Administration was to seize automobiles, money and other assets to fight drug trafficking, according to one government document.

But the use of the database had expanded to include hunting for vehicles linked to other possible crimes, including kidnapping, killings and rape suspects, the paper said, citing current and former officials and government documents.

While U.S. officials have said they track vehicles near the Mexican border to combat drug cartels, it had not been previously revealed the DEA had been working to expand the database "throughout the United States," the Journal said, citing an email.

It said many state and local law enforcement agencies were using the database for a variety of investigations, the paper said.

It added it was unclear if any court oversaw or approved the program.
Big government? Like the cons "patriot act"?

Cops can now see in your home without a warrant.

New police radars can see inside homes

True! Both sides of the aisle are interested in expanding the power and scope of government. Neither will stop the flow of illegals but both will work to stop the flow of legal Americans. Globalism in action.
 
I believe it's Progressive Insurance that's helping on this.

Know who owns Progressive? Peter Lewis, major league fascist pig. Has a portrait of Mao on his wall.

And yes, people. Fascism and socialism are the bastard children of the same whore.

Only dimocrap scum deny it.
You walk funny with that corn cob up yer butt.
 
I believe it's Progressive Insurance that's helping on this.

Know who owns Progressive? Peter Lewis, major league fascist pig. Has a portrait of Mao on his wall.

And yes, people. Fascism and socialism are the bastard children of the same whore.

Only dimocrap scum deny it.

Thus the name "Progressive."
 
Shut up Terrorist. If Big Brother says it ok, than it's ok. AMERICA #1!! AMERICA #1!!
 
Here's the rule that will help you. The government knows who you are and what you are up to, they just don't care most of the time. That thing in your pocket that goes ring ring and you text on all day tells them most of what they need to know already. True privacy was dead long ago so now you know...

The FBI can trace you by a screen name on a message board and be across the street watching you the same day. They can trace every email you've ever written and every word you've ever wrote on the internet. If you have nothing to hide - you have nothing to worry about. What I find amazing is that by GPS they can zero in and watch you walk out your front door and get into your car before you ever start driving! How about that?
 

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