Judging Today's Republicans vs. those 10 Years Ago

[Failzero]

If one were to consider the current USA political/ideology spectrum as a circular "pie", the Democrat Party (DNC) has shifted so far to the extreme Left in the past 50+ years as to exclude many whom would have been "Democrats" "back then". It's highly doubtful that either FDR or JFK would gather $upport and endorsement from current DNC were those 'political persons' here today.

The Democrats/DNC fill a slightly less than one quarter "slice of the pie" so to speak. That means that as the only other viable and major political party in the USA, the Republicans (RNC) have their quarter slice of the pie in form of stanch Conservatives and the other half(two quarters plus) of the "pie"; the "others", whom can only be considered RINO/CINO*, would have to be in the assorted "third parties" which have little resources or membership to be viable contenders, or squeeze into the GOP somehow.

RINO/CINO is essentially just those whom aren't "Radical Leftist" enough to get $upport and backing from the extreme socialist/communist Democrat Party, nor strongly Conservative enough to be considered "real" Republicans.

Since RINO/CINO are near automatically rejected by the Democrats, their only place for acceptance would/could be in the Republican tent, which is more expansive and encompassing.

Many of us in the GOP aren't trying to get rid of the "RINOs(CINOs)" but rather trying to find ways to fit them in.

* RINO/CINO = Republican In Name Only/Conservative In Name Only.

Fit in Socially Liberal Enablers of the Democommies No thanx

 

[struth]

The GOP is larger today as people are starting to see how the demafascist have taken over the party of the klan and their policies have gotten even more crazy and oppressive

 

[Stryder50]

If your knowledge of history is so limited perhaps you'd look a little less stupid by not commenting on it.

And if you were filled with so much less excess hubris, you might look far less stupid for your ignorance of history. And maybe pause and consider more deeply before commenting.

Havign a few years on you, I was around and rememer quite well the events of the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968.

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The Democratic Convention of 1968 was held August 26-29 in Chicago, Illinois. As delegates flowed into the International Amphitheatre to nominate a Democratic Party presidential candidate, tens of thousands of protesters swarmed the streets to rally against the Vietnam War and the political status quo. By the time Vice President Herbert Humphrey received the presidential nomination, the strife within the Democratic Party was laid bare and the streets of Chicago had seen riots and bloodshed involving protesters, police and bystanders alike, radically changing America’s political and social landscape.

Goal of Protestors at the 1968 Democratic Convention​

Though the 1968 protest at the Democratic National Convention were largely against the Vietnam War, the country was undergoing unrest on many fronts. The months leading up to the infamous 1968 Democratic Convention were turbulent: The brutal assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. in April had left the country reeling, and although segregation had officially ended, racism and poverty continued to make life difficult for many blacks.

The Vietnam War was in its 13th year and the recent Tet Offensive had proved the conflict was far from over, as the draft sent more young men into the fray. It was only a matter of time before a showdown would take place between the government of President Lyndon B. Johnson and America’s war-weary citizens.

By the time delegates arrived for the convention in Chicago, protests had been set in motion by members of the Youth International Party (yippies) and the National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam (MOBE), whose organizers included Rennie Davis and Tom Hayden.

But Chicago’s Mayor Richard Daley had no intention of letting his city or the convention be overrun by protestors. The stage was set for an explosive face-off.

A Divided Democratic Party​

The Democratic Party in 1968 was in crisis. President Johnson—despite being elected with a huge majority in 1964—was soon loathed by many of his peers and constituents due to his pro-Vietnam War policies.

In November 1967, a relatively unknown and unremarkable Minnesota senator named Eugene McCarthy announced his intent to challenge Johnson for the Democratic presidential nomination. In March 1968, McCarthy won 40 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire presidential primary, thereby validating his candidacy.

A few days later, Senator Robert F. Kennedy abandoned his support for Johnson and entered the presidential fight.

President Johnson saw the writing on the wall and, on March 31, told a stunned nation during a televised address that he would not seek reelection. The following month, Vice President Hubert Humphrey—backed by Johnson—announced his candidacy for the nomination, further dividing the Democratic Party.

Humphrey focused on winning delegates in non-primary states, while Kennedy and McCarthy campaigned hard in primary states. Tragically, the race was turned upside down again when Robert Kennedy was assassinated after giving his victory speech following the California primary on June 4.

Kennedy’s delegates were divided between McCarthy and dark-horse candidate Senator George McGovern, leaving Humphrey with more than enough votes to clench the Democratic presidential nomination, but also leaving the Democratic party in turmoil just weeks before their national convention.
...

Pigasus​

Fed up with Democratic leadership’s penchant for war, yippies protesting at the 1968 Democratic National Convention conceived their own solution: nominate a pig for president.

Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman came up with the idea, named their candidate “Pigasus the Immortal” and pledged, “They nominate a president and he eats the people. We nominate a president and the people eat him.”

Pigasus the Immortal’s presidential campaign may have been the shortest in recorded history. His chance to become leader of the free world ended abruptly when he, Rubin and other members of his campaign staff were arrested at his first press conference in front of the Chicago Convention Center. (Pigasus’s eventual fate remains unknown to this day.)
...
About a week before the convention, despite not having permission, thousands of protestors—many of them from out of state and from middle-class families—set up camp at Lincoln Park, about ten miles from the Amphitheatre. Expecting resistance, protest leaders organized self-defense training sessions including karate and snake dancing.
...
The convention soon became a battleground between anti-war supporters and Vice President Humphrey’s—and indirectly, President Johnson’s—supporters. On Tuesday night, when a promised televised prime-time debate on Vietnam was postponed until after midnight when most viewers would be asleep, the anti-war delegates made their fury known to the point that Mayor Daley had the convention adjourned for the night.
...

1968 Democratic Convention - Protests, Yippies, Witnesses| HISTORY

The 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, Illinois, was marked by violent protests and party upheaval as Herbert Humphrey clinched the presidential nomination.

www.history.com

See Also;

1968 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Harpy Eagle]

wow a lot of people turned 18 in between those two elections

From 240 million in 2012 to 257 million in 2020

 

[Dadoalex]

And if you were filled with so much less excess hubris, you might look far less stupid for your ignorance of history. And maybe pause and consider more deeply before commenting.

Havign a few years on you, I was around and rememer quite well the events of the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968.

Select Excerpts;
...
The Democratic Convention of 1968 was held August 26-29 in Chicago, Illinois. As delegates flowed into the International Amphitheatre to nominate a Democratic Party presidential candidate, tens of thousands of protesters swarmed the streets to rally against the Vietnam War and the political status quo. By the time Vice President Herbert Humphrey received the presidential nomination, the strife within the Democratic Party was laid bare and the streets of Chicago had seen riots and bloodshed involving protesters, police and bystanders alike, radically changing America’s political and social landscape.

Goal of Protestors at the 1968 Democratic Convention​

Though the 1968 protest at the Democratic National Convention were largely against the Vietnam War, the country was undergoing unrest on many fronts. The months leading up to the infamous 1968 Democratic Convention were turbulent: The brutal assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. in April had left the country reeling, and although segregation had officially ended, racism and poverty continued to make life difficult for many blacks.

The Vietnam War was in its 13th year and the recent Tet Offensive had proved the conflict was far from over, as the draft sent more young men into the fray. It was only a matter of time before a showdown would take place between the government of President Lyndon B. Johnson and America’s war-weary citizens.

By the time delegates arrived for the convention in Chicago, protests had been set in motion by members of the Youth International Party (yippies) and the National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam (MOBE), whose organizers included Rennie Davis and Tom Hayden.

But Chicago’s Mayor Richard Daley had no intention of letting his city or the convention be overrun by protestors. The stage was set for an explosive face-off.

A Divided Democratic Party​

The Democratic Party in 1968 was in crisis. President Johnson—despite being elected with a huge majority in 1964—was soon loathed by many of his peers and constituents due to his pro-Vietnam War policies.

In November 1967, a relatively unknown and unremarkable Minnesota senator named Eugene McCarthy announced his intent to challenge Johnson for the Democratic presidential nomination. In March 1968, McCarthy won 40 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire presidential primary, thereby validating his candidacy.

A few days later, Senator Robert F. Kennedy abandoned his support for Johnson and entered the presidential fight.

President Johnson saw the writing on the wall and, on March 31, told a stunned nation during a televised address that he would not seek reelection. The following month, Vice President Hubert Humphrey—backed by Johnson—announced his candidacy for the nomination, further dividing the Democratic Party.

Humphrey focused on winning delegates in non-primary states, while Kennedy and McCarthy campaigned hard in primary states. Tragically, the race was turned upside down again when Robert Kennedy was assassinated after giving his victory speech following the California primary on June 4.

Kennedy’s delegates were divided between McCarthy and dark-horse candidate Senator George McGovern, leaving Humphrey with more than enough votes to clench the Democratic presidential nomination, but also leaving the Democratic party in turmoil just weeks before their national convention.
...

Pigasus​

Fed up with Democratic leadership’s penchant for war, yippies protesting at the 1968 Democratic National Convention conceived their own solution: nominate a pig for president.

Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman came up with the idea, named their candidate “Pigasus the Immortal” and pledged, “They nominate a president and he eats the people. We nominate a president and the people eat him.”

Pigasus the Immortal’s presidential campaign may have been the shortest in recorded history. His chance to become leader of the free world ended abruptly when he, Rubin and other members of his campaign staff were arrested at his first press conference in front of the Chicago Convention Center. (Pigasus’s eventual fate remains unknown to this day.)
...
About a week before the convention, despite not having permission, thousands of protestors—many of them from out of state and from middle-class families—set up camp at Lincoln Park, about ten miles from the Amphitheatre. Expecting resistance, protest leaders organized self-defense training sessions including karate and snake dancing.
...
The convention soon became a battleground between anti-war supporters and Vice President Humphrey’s—and indirectly, President Johnson’s—supporters. On Tuesday night, when a promised televised prime-time debate on Vietnam was postponed until after midnight when most viewers would be asleep, the anti-war delegates made their fury known to the point that Mayor Daley had the convention adjourned for the night.
...

1968 Democratic Convention - Protests, Yippies, Witnesses| HISTORY

The 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, Illinois, was marked by violent protests and party upheaval as Herbert Humphrey clinched the presidential nomination.

www.history.com

See Also;

1968 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Your point?
Do you really think that those protesters who wanted the Democratic Party to move away from war mongering and supporting racism were wrong?
Note that the democratic "leaders" from the South moved to join the GOP when the democrats starting doing things like allowing Black people to vote.

The topic is the devolution of the GOP.
Perhaps you should discuss that.

AND

A few years on me?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Assuming that's true, you should have spent that time trying to solve problems rather than spreading your hate.

 

[struth]

Your point?
Do you really think that those protesters who wanted the Democratic Party to move away from war mongering and supporting racism were wrong?
Note that the democratic "leaders" from the South moved to join the GOP when the democrats starting doing things like allowing Black people to vote.

The topic is the devolution of the GOP.
Perhaps you should discuss that.

AND

A few years on me?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Assuming that's true, you should have spent that time trying to solve problems rather than spreading your hate.

what Dem leaders did that? Not Xiden mentor Sen Eastland....not Senator Gore, not Doug Jones....

 

[Stryder50]

the politicians of today,what was being talked about,are nothing like those from yesteryear.....so there is the ignorance of your comment that i was responding to.....

No!

They are at worse little different from those of "yesteryear" going back the 250 years of our nation's history. At best some are better.

 

[Harry Dresden]

In post #18 of this thread you said the following;
QUOTE:
both sides have some of the worst politicians we have ever seen....
UNQUOTE
"have ever seen" would strongly suggest within the history of the USA and that barely goes back 250 years, +/- .
Either you are mis-stating;
ignorant of history;
OR
Being disingenuous.

Pick whatever excuse/CYA you want.*

*(OR: You don't know how to speak clearly and concisely.)

today dumbass.....me or you were not around for every politician who has ever lived.........how about if i dumb it down for you so maybe you can understand.....since 2000 is that better for you?...

 

[Stryder50]

today dumbass.....me or you were not around for every politician who has ever lived.........how about if i dumb it down for you so maybe you can understand.....since 2000 is that better for you?...

Dufus!
One of the purposes of history is to learn from the past.
Again, you used the term: "...we have ever seen...." in your post #18. If you meant only in recent couple of decades you should have said such. What you did say was broad reaching enough to go back to the start of our Nation ("...ever seen.").

The "dumb down" started with your initial statement and continues on through to your current posts; i.e. you are the one who is "dumbed down" and can't say what they mean!

 

[Harry Dresden]

Dufus!
One of the purposes of history is to learn from the past.
Again, you used the term: "...we have ever seen...." in your post #18. If you meant only in recent couple of decades you should have said such. What you did say was broad reaching enough to go back to the start of our Nation ("...ever seen.").

The "dumb down" started with your initial statement and continues on through to your current posts; i.e. you are the one who is "dumbed down" and can't say what they mean!

the dumbdown started with you not understanding what i was talking about....you must be one of the die hard party people....

 

[Dadoalex]

what Dem leaders did that? Not Xiden mentor Sen Eastland....not Senator Gore, not Doug Jones....

You mean dead guys from 60 years ago?

BWAHAHAHAHA

There's not an elected Democrat from the south in 1968 who would be in the democratic party today.
Those still alive have joined you in the hatefest we call the GOP.

While you claim to have years of knowledge what you display is the willful ignorance of the GOP.

 

[struth]

You mean dead guys from 60 years ago?

BWAHAHAHAHA

There's not an elected Democrat from the south in 1968 who would be in the democratic party today.
Those still alive have joined you in the hatefest we call the GOP.

While you claim to have years of knowledge what you display is the willful ignorance of the GOP.

They mentored your current president. Eastland literally was his mentor.

LBJ would not be a republican.

Eastland wouldn’t be one either

Gore certainly wouldn’t

Byrd…never

try again.

The dem party is and will always be the party of the klan and jim crow.

the racist dems were ran out of the south

 

[Dadoalex]

They mentored your current president. Eastland literally was his mentor.

LBJ would not be a republican.

Eastland wouldn’t be one either

Gore certainly wouldn’t

Byrd…never

try again.

The dem party is and will always be the party of the klan and jim crow.

the racist dems were ran out of the south

WOW
You were able to find 3 people who surrendered their hate in favor of their constituents.
Helms, Strom (Jungle Fever) Thurmond, Trent (Segregation was a good idea) Lott, Shelby,...Should I go on?

Mentored? Not really, Biden has rejected all they stood for.
But, there's still you and yours, lovin the racism and cheering the racists.

 

[eddiew37]

They stole the Election in 6-8 Counties in 5 States

And your people were stupid enough not to catch us ?? Damn those 60 courts that found ZILCH

 

[eddiew37]

They mentored your current president. Eastland literally was his mentor.

LBJ would not be a republican.

Eastland wouldn’t be one either

Gore certainly wouldn’t

Byrd…never

try again.

The dem party is and will always be the party of the klan and jim crow.

the racist dems were ran out of the south

And became republicans as they infested the south

 

[struth]

And became republicans as they infested the south

republicans were always there, they just were finally able to win because your bedsheet wearing demaklan lost its power

 

[struth]

WOW
You were able to find 3 people who surrendered their hate in favor of their constituents.
Helms, Strom (Jungle Fever) Thurmond, Trent (Segregation was a good idea) Lott, Shelby,...Should I go on?

Mentored? Not really, Biden has rejected all they stood for.
But, there's still you and yours, lovin the racism and cheering the racists.

haha trent lott never said it was a good idea

and it was xiden who fought enforcing brown v board of education because he feared a racial jungle

 

[Dadoalex]

haha trent lott never said it was a good idea

and it was xiden who fought enforcing brown v board of education because he feared a racial jungle

Try a little larnin...

Senator's Comments Open Historic Wounds over Segregation - 2002-12-18

The current controversy involves remarks Senator Lott made earlier this month at a celebration marking the 100th birthday of retiring S

www.voanews.com

 

[struth]

Try a little larnin...

Senator's Comments Open Historic Wounds over Segregation - 2002-12-18

The current controversy involves remarks Senator Lott made earlier this month at a celebration marking the 100th birthday of retiring S

www.voanews.com

I don't see anywhere in your link where Lott said segragation was a good idea.