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JFK - 58 years and still hiding

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You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you in the balls.
More than you would boy

You lie like a fucking cowasrd whenever faced with facts and dream up crap from your fast ass
 

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SMH. Did you watch this video before you posted it? This is the CBS test, about which I've written extensively. Not one of the shooters duplicated Oswald's alleged feat because none of them scored the required hits on the first and only attempt. The state trooper scored two hits on his **second** attempt. Howard Donahue scored three hits on his **third** attempt. Oswald would have had only one attempt. Furthermore, all of the riflemen were allowed to practice just before the test, whereas Oswald had no such opportunity. And, the test did not involve firing from a partially closed window nor in the cramped conditions in which Oswald would have had to fire. So, no, no rifleman in this test duplicated Oswald's feat, and not one of them fired under conditions that were similar to those in which Oswald would have fired (partially closed window and a cramped space)..

Another point is that most of the shooters in the CBS rifle test were experienced riflemen. Note that the only two riflemen in the test who scored at least two hits were both very experienced marksmen (and neither of them did so on their first attempt). One of them was a Maryland state trooper. The other one was Howard Donahue, a weapons and ballistics expert and a superb marksman (I knew Howard Donahue).

In contrast, Oswald was a poor marksman, as evidenced by his Marine Corps rifle scores and as attested by virtually everyone who saw him fire a rifle. On Oswald's best day at the range in the Marine Corps, he barely managed to qualify in the second of three marksmanship categories, and, mind you, this was while firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle.

Oswald joined a shooting club in the Soviet Union, and the members who were interviewed about Oswald's shooting ability said he was a poor shot. David Ferrie, who saw Oswald shoot, said Oswald couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
 

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Another point is that most of the shooters in the CBS rifle test were experienced riflemen. Note that the only two riflemen in the test who scored at least two hits were both very experienced marksmen (and neither of them did so on their first attempt). One of them was a Maryland state trooper. The other one was Howard Donahue, a weapons and ballistics expert and a superb marksman (I knew Howard Donahue).

In contrast, Oswald was a poor marksman, as evidenced by his Marine Corps rifle scores and as attested by virtually everyone who saw him fire a rifle. On Oswald's best day at the range in the Marine Corps, he barely managed to qualify in the second of three marksmanship categories, and, mind you, this was while firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle.

Oswald joined a shooting club in the Soviet Union, and the members who were interviewed about Oswald's shooting ability said he was a poor shot. David Ferrie, who saw Oswald shoot, said Oswald couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
The CBS test was only one.

THE warren Commission hade multiple tests including one from an average soldier all of who exceeded Oswalds performance.

Many marksman have proven over the years it was an easy shooting task and Oswald was in fact up to it..

David ferrie never weighed in on this subject and neither did any known Russian Witnesses.

OSwald was rated a sharpshoter by the MArines which is a good rating he was actually a skilled rifle shot.

Yet another false hood and myth from the conspiracy theorists debunked. Only one witness claimed he was a bad shot in the Marines and that witness had a crediblity issue
 

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The most revealing rifle test was the Warren Commission's rifle test, because the riflemen in that test used the alleged murder weapon itself, and all three were NRA Master-rated riflemen.

The three Master-rated shooters in the WC's test fired 18 rounds while using the scope and three rounds while using the iron sights. Tellingly, they missed the head and neck area of the target board silhouettes 18 out of 18 times when they used the scope, and 2 out of 3 times when they used the iron sights. In other words, they missed the head and neck area of the target silhouettes 20 out of 21 times. Several of their misses were far apart on the boards. Some of their shots missed the silhouettes entirely. It's revealing that they shot so poorly even though they were allowed to take as long as they wanted for the first shot, even though two of them took longer than 6 seconds to fire, even though they were only firing from 30 feet up, and even though they were shooting at stationary--yes, stationary--target boards.

The three riflemen in the test were named Miller, Hendrix, and Staley. In the first series, Miller took 4.6 seconds to fire three shots, Staley took 6.75 seconds, and Hendrix took 8.25 seconds. In the next series, Miller took 5.15 seconds, Staley took 6.45 seconds, and Hendrix took 7 seconds. It bears repeating that Oswald would have had only one attempt, only one series. Oswald supposedly scored two hits out of three shots, yet Miller, Hendrix, and Staley—all Master-rated riflemen—missed the head and neck area of the target silhouettes 20 out of 21 times.

I discuss Oswald's poor marksmanship in "Was Oswald a Poor Shot?"

 
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The CBS test was only one.

THE warren Commission hade multiple tests including one from an average soldier all of who exceeded Oswalds performance.

Many marksman have proven over the years it was an easy shooting task and Oswald was in fact up to it..

David ferrie never weighed in on this subject and neither did any known Russian Witnesses.

OSwald was rated a sharpshoter by the MArines which is a good rating he was actually a skilled rifle shot.

Yet another false hood and myth from the conspiracy theorists debunked. Only one witness claimed he was a bad shot in the Marines and that witness had a crediblity issue
JFK wanted peace and an end to the Cold War. Plus he intended “to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” He fired Allen’s grandpa (serial killer Allen Dulles) after the Bay of Pigs set up. So…Allen’s grandpa had JFK murdered with bullets fired from the front, blowing out the back of his head.

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Great column here Allen. Please read. The evidence is overwhelming!!!
Thanks.
JFK, Thought Control, and Thought Crimes - LewRockwell
 

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JFK wanted peace and an end to the Cold War. Plus he intended “to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” He fired Allen’s grandpa (serial killer Allen Dulles) after the Bay of Pigs set up. So…Allen’s grandpa had JFK murdered with bullets fired from the front, blowing out the back of his head.

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Great column here Allen. Please read. The evidence is overwhelming!!!
Thanks.
JFK, Thought Control, and Thought Crimes - LewRockwell
no it is not overwhelming

It is non existant.

The evidence proves you wrong.

Whatever IFKs policies may or not have been is irrelevant. Oswald was the only one shooting that day and he acted alone.
 
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no it is not overwhelming

It is non existant.

The evidence proves you wrong.

Whatever IFKs policies may or not have been is irrelevant. Oswald was the only one shooting that day and he acted alone.
Unfortunately, we now live in a country where to say that Oswald is innocent is tantamount to committing a “thoughtcrime”. Americans increasingly practice what Orwell terms “crimestop,” the faculty of stopping short at the threshold of any dangerous thought. But given the facts of the matter, believing the Oswald-did-it-alone official truth is like saying 2 + 2 = 5.

2+2=5 right Allen? I bet you’d love to live in Orwell’s 1984.
 

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Unfortunately, we now live in a country where to say that Oswald is innocent is tantamount to committing a “thoughtcrime”. Americans increasingly practice what Orwell terms “crimestop,” the faculty of stopping short at the threshold of any dangerous thought. But given the facts of the matter, believing the Oswald-did-it-alone official truth is like saying 2 + 2 = 5.

2+2=5 right Allen? I bet you’d love to live in Orwell’s 1984.
That is a dodge.

The fact is it is not a crime igt is stupidity to claim there was a conspiracy when all of the conspiracy trheories have been disproven and the evidence debunked.

Look at your last post. You lied like a fyucking coward. None of what you presented is worthwhile evidence. Kilduff was repeating hearsay and nothing more.

The others were presenting opinions with no expertise.
You have nothing boty and you know it
 
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That is a dodge.

The fact is it is not a crime igt is stupidity to claim there was a conspiracy when all of the conspiracy trheories have been disproven and the evidence debunked.

Look at your last post. You lied like a fyucking coward. None of what you presented is worthwhile evidence. Kilduff was repeating hearsay and nothing more.

The others were presenting opinions with no expertise.
You have nothing boty and you know it
Only idiots think Oswald acted alone. Hence, I rest my case.
 
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Only idiots make such claims

You never had a case. Your case was ruined and debunked the first time I posted and proved you wrong
Like said…idiots!
 
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Only idiots make such claims

You never had a case. Your case was ruined and debunked the first time I posted and proved you wrong
Here’s some good reading for you Allen. Your grandpa’s crimes were exposed long ago. I get it that you just can’t accept that old grandpa Dulles, who bounced you on his knee, was a crazed serial killer.

The Magic Bullet

The Warren Report claimed that since three empty shells were found on the floor of the sixth floor of The Texas Book Depository that only three bullets were fired, and from that spot. The FBI claimed that all three bullets hit inside the car, two hitting Kennedy and one Gov. Connolly. But evidence showed that one bullet missed the car, striking an underpass.

This forced the Commission into a dilemma, and so Arlen Specter, the future long-standing senator, conjured up the so-called Magic Bullet Theory, claiming that one bullet hit and passed through Kennedy only to hit Connolly, zigzagging absurdly and causing seven wounds. It was ridiculous but conveniently avoided admitting that there had to be more shots and therefore a conspiracy. The Magic bullet – CE 399 – was said to have been found in pristine condition on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital. This bullet was foundational to the Warren Commission’s case, but Stone shows with released documents that there was no chain of custody for this bullet and that lies were told about it. He further shows how this magically found pristine bullet could not have passed through two men and emerge like new.

The film immediately demolishes the Warren Commission’s basic premise.

The “Rifle” with No Oswald on the Sixth Floor

And then this: the film shows that the rifle Oswald is alleged to have used and ordered through the mail with its paper trail (he could have walked into a store and bought one without leaving evidence) does not look like the famous highly questionable photos of Oswald posing with a rifle in the back yard. But more importantly than various other anomalies concerning the rifle(s-?), such as the absence of Oswald’s hand prints, is the new evidence the film documents about Oswald’s non-presence on the sixth floor.

Researcher Barry Ernest went to the National Archives to find the original testimony of Victoria Adams who worked on the fourth floor and knew Oswald. He discovered that it was missing and that the Warren Commission had destroyed the tapes. So he went and found Adams, and what she told him contradicted the Commission’s findings. It was claimed that after shooting Kennedy, Oswald quickly went down the back stairs to the second floor lunch room. Adams told Ernest that immediately after the assassination she went down the back stairs from the fourth floor and saw no one. Ernest found corroborating evidence from two other women, Sandra Styles who accompanied Vicki Adams down the stairs and Vicki’s supervisor Dorothy Garner who saw them descend, to back Adams’ testimony, about which the Warren Commission lied. Further proof that Oswald could not have shot Kennedy from the sixth floor window since he wasn’t there.

The Head Wound and the Autopsy Coverup

With video testimonies from Doctors Perry, Clark, and Crenshaw from Parkland Hospital, Stone shows how the original testimonies placed the neck and head wounds to Kennedy coming from the front, but that pressure was applied to Perry to recant, which he did, only to later to admit his recantation was a lie and that the wound in Kennedy’s neck was an entrance wound.

Then with the autopsy, we learn how it was controlled not by forensic pathologists experienced in doing autopsies on gunshot victims, but by shadowy military and intelligence figures. We learn of another magic bullet that allegedly was found in Parkland Hospital where it was claimed it fell out of a back wound of the president. But this bullet later turns out to be The Magic Bullet after further legerdemain by Warren Commission member Gerald Ford.
JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass - LewRockwell
 

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Like said…idiots!
You LARAM and Angelo and a few others are those idiots.

You cannot back up your silly claims with evidence. You have no knowledge about the assassination and you have never done any research.
 

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Here’s some good reading for you Allen. Your grandpa’s crimes were exposed long ago. I get it that you just can’t accept that old grandpa Dulles, who bounced you on his knee, was a crazed serial killer.

The Magic Bullet

The Warren Report claimed that since three empty shells were found on the floor of the sixth floor of The Texas Book Depository that only three bullets were fired, and from that spot. The FBI claimed that all three bullets hit inside the car, two hitting Kennedy and one Gov. Connolly. But evidence showed that one bullet missed the car, striking an underpass.

This forced the Commission into a dilemma, and so Arlen Specter, the future long-standing senator, conjured up the so-called Magic Bullet Theory, claiming that one bullet hit and passed through Kennedy only to hit Connolly, zigzagging absurdly and causing seven wounds. It was ridiculous but conveniently avoided admitting that there had to be more shots and therefore a conspiracy. The Magic bullet – CE 399 – was said to have been found in pristine condition on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital. This bullet was foundational to the Warren Commission’s case, but Stone shows with released documents that there was no chain of custody for this bullet and that lies were told about it. He further shows how this magically found pristine bullet could not have passed through two men and emerge like new.

The film immediately demolishes the Warren Commission’s basic premise.


The “Rifle” with No Oswald on the Sixth Floor

And then this: the film shows that the rifle Oswald is alleged to have used and ordered through the mail with its paper trail (he could have walked into a store and bought one without leaving evidence) does not look like the famous highly questionable photos of Oswald posing with a rifle in the back yard. But more importantly than various other anomalies concerning the rifle(s-?), such as the absence of Oswald’s hand prints, is the new evidence the film documents about Oswald’s non-presence on the sixth floor.

Researcher Barry Ernest went to the National Archives to find the original testimony of Victoria Adams who worked on the fourth floor and knew Oswald. He discovered that it was missing and that the Warren Commission had destroyed the tapes. So he went and found Adams, and what she told him contradicted the Commission’s findings. It was claimed that after shooting Kennedy, Oswald quickly went down the back stairs to the second floor lunch room. Adams told Ernest that immediately after the assassination she went down the back stairs from the fourth floor and saw no one. Ernest found corroborating evidence from two other women, Sandra Styles who accompanied Vicki Adams down the stairs and Vicki’s supervisor Dorothy Garner who saw them descend, to back Adams’ testimony, about which the Warren Commission lied. Further proof that Oswald could not have shot Kennedy from the sixth floor window since he wasn’t there.


The Head Wound and the Autopsy Coverup

With video testimonies from Doctors Perry, Clark, and Crenshaw from Parkland Hospital, Stone shows how the original testimonies placed the neck and head wounds to Kennedy coming from the front, but that pressure was applied to Perry to recant, which he did, only to later to admit his recantation was a lie and that the wound in Kennedy’s neck was an entrance wound.

Then with the autopsy, we learn how it was controlled not by forensic pathologists experienced in doing autopsies on gunshot victims, but by shadowy military and intelligence figures. We learn of another magic bullet that allegedly was found in Parkland Hospital where it was claimed it fell out of a back wound of the president. But this bullet later turns out to be The Magic Bullet after further legerdemain by Warren Commission member Gerald Ford.
JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass - LewRockwell
Here is some correction for you Lee.

I know you hate Dulles for some dumb reason and love your gay grandppaaw Lee who you sucked off frequently. But you are posting proven lies.

the FBI never claimed all three bullets hit in the car. It was acknowledged by them and the Warren Commission that one missed and stuck the curb.

Areln Spector did not create the Magic Bullet theory.

Jim Garrison invented it to support his fictitious theory and it has been debunked. Spector never described any bullet zig zagging or turning in mid air.

It was never in pristine condition nor did anyone claim it was pristine except liars who push conspiracy theories.

It is the same rifle as in the photographs and had Oswald's prints.

Stone failed massively inventing witnesses and proving nothing. The fact is the Autopsy was performed by trained experts and was not overseen by " shadowy military figures"

You are a massive failure and the EVIDENCE proves you wrong.

Evidence and facts are things which you are alllergic to. Rather than fixate on your incestuous love for your daddy Oswald trry learning how evidence works you total faggot
 
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Here is some correction for you Lee.

I know you hate Dulles for some dumb reason and love your gay grandppaaw Lee who you sucked off frequently. But you are posting proven lies.

the FBI never claimed all three bullets hit in the car. It was acknowledged by them and the Warren Commission that one missed and stuck the curb.

Areln Spector did not create the Magic Bullet theory.

Jim Garrison invented it to support his fictitious theory and it has been debunked. Spector never described any bullet zig zagging or turning in mid air.

It was never in pristine condition nor did anyone claim it was pristine except liars who push conspiracy theories.

It is the same rifle as in the photographs and had Oswald's prints.

Stone failed massively inventing witnesses and proving nothing. The fact is the Autopsy was performed by trained experts and was not overseen by " shadowy military figures"

You are a massive failure and the EVIDENCE proves you wrong.

Evidence and facts are things which you are alllergic to. Rather than fixate on your incestuous love for your daddy Oswald trry learning how evidence works you total faggot
It’s okay Allen. Admitting grandpa was a serial killer doesn’t change your love for him. ❤️ ❤️ 💕 💗
 

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It’s okay Allen. Admitting grandpa was a serial killer doesn’t change your love for him. ❤️ ❤️ 💕 💗
Who did he kill ?

We have already proven he did not kill JFK we have proven Your gay lover OSwald did.

So go ahead tell me who Dulles killed?
 
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After JFK’s assassination, Allen Dulles told journalist Willie Morris that Kennedy “thought he was a god.” This from the man who had his henchmen kill with impunity and loved the Nazis with whom he worked and brought into the U.S. government (see David Talbot’s The Devil’s Chessboard). In a document uncovered by the ARRB called the Northwoods Document, the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommended to Kennedy that he approve a false flag operation to start a war with Cuba by blowing up an empty plane over Cuba and blaming it on Castro and setting off bombs in American cities killing Americans for the same purpose. Of course, Kennedy refused, only intensifying their hatred of him. Then when he wouldn’t bomb Cuba during the missile crisis in October 1962, gave his American University speech the following June, sought reconciliation with the Soviet Union, and decided to withdraw from Vietnam, the die was cast: He had to die.

Allen, did grandpa Dulles really say JFK thought he was God? My guess is grandpa thought he was God, so he didn’t like JFK thinking the same.
 

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After JFK’s assassination, Allen Dulles told journalist Willie Morris that Kennedy “thought he was a god.” This from the man who had his henchmen kill with impunity and loved the Nazis with whom he worked and brought into the U.S. government (see David Talbot’s The Devil’s Chessboard). In a document uncovered by the ARRB called the Northwoods Document, the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommended to Kennedy that he approve a false flag operation to start a war with Cuba by blowing up an empty plane over Cuba and blaming it on Castro and setting off bombs in American cities killing Americans for the same purpose. Of course, Kennedy refused, only intensifying their hatred of him. Then when he wouldn’t bomb Cuba during the missile crisis in October 1962, gave his American University speech the following June, sought reconciliation with the Soviet Union, and decided to withdraw from Vietnam, the die was cast: He had to die.

Allen, did grandpa Dulles really say JFK thought he was God? My guess is grandpa thought he was God, so he didn’t like JFK thinking the same.
You did not answer my question.

GO ahead and try.

While you are at it provide a citation for Spector claiming the Bullet was magic or that it Zig Zagged in the air. Not from someone else but from Spector himself. Provide a chapter and page of the Warren Commission report where he made this claim
 

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