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No it's not. If some masked guy hopped out of an unmarked SUV claiming to be ICE (But not providing any identification) and slapped cuffs on you and shoved you into the back of that SUV because they think you look suspicious, would you comply with that order?


Right, and law enforcement isn't doing that because it's unconstitutional. When local law enforcement picks them up, they are taken to the local jails and given access to legal representation because that's a requirement they follow. ICE doesn't do that, so they are violating the civil rights of everyone they pick up, citizen or not...and they have picked up multiple citizens by profiling (which is also a civil rights violation)



No, it's police departments actually complying with the law, particularly those pesky 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments.
Why would anyone want to kidnap me?

I’m not rich so ransom is not an option

That makes your question pretty silly

Yes I would comply because its practically a 100% possibility that the person is law enforcement

On the other hand there are more than a few wacko libs who want to harass ICE agents and their families

Thats why the drug gangs are feared in Mexico

They are ruthless
 
Local and state police will work with Federal LE as closely as their management - who is very often not a cop but a political appointee - allows them.
But most do not and do not participate in these activities, nor do many of them want to.


You won’t find a lot of rank and file cops who are antagonistic to ICE, Border Patrol, or any other Federal LE.
You'd be surprised.
 
Why would anyone want to kidnap me?

I’m not rich so ransom is not an option
ICE is kidnapping people, why are you trying to shift the subject?


That makes your question pretty silly
No, it makes you silly because you're not even responding in good faith to what I said.

What would you call it if a masked person without identification, but claiming to be ICE, grabbed you off the street and took you to a facility where you have no access to legal representation?


Yes I would comply because its practically a 100% possibility that the person is law enforcement
How do you know they're law enforcement if they're not wearing identification or producing any identification?

You would still hop in their car voluntarily? How do you know they're not human traffickers? Or serial killers?

On the other hand there are more than a few wacko libs who want to harass ICE agents and their families
If you're hiding your face and identity because people will "harass" you, maybe the problem isn't the people, it's you.

hats why the drug gangs are feared in Mexico
So you want ICE to act like drug cartels?
 
What would you call it if a masked person without identification, but claiming to be ICE, grabbed you off the street and took you to a facility where you have no access to legal representation?
I would call it as probable as winning the lottery

Do you think ICE agents are paid by the head?
 
For what reason?
Cruelty.

Grabbing people off the street by profiling them and then taking them somewhere that they can't access legal support is kidnapping. There's no other word for it.

Whenever someone in this country is arrested for anything, they are not denied their right to an attorney (Aka Habeus Corpus).
 
Cruelty.

Grabbing people off the street by profiling them and then taking them somewhere that they can't access legal support is kidnapping. There's no other word for it.

Whenever someone in this country is arrested for anything, they are not denied their right to an attorney (Aka Habeus Corpus).
Except that is not happening

A majority of the time ICE has a warrant
 
Except that is not happening
No, that is exactly what is happening. Listen to the interviews with the citizens who were mistakenly picked up. There are multiple lawsuits against this because of the civil rights violations. This is really dark stuff. A judge had to force ICE to give undocumented detainees access to lawyers, so you know that ICE isn't doing that and is trying not to allow that.

From Google AI:

Recent federal lawsuits and class actions detail systemic violations where U.S. citizens and immigrants have been detained by ICE and unlawfully denied access to legal counsel. These systemic issues include unconstitutional detentions, rapid out-of-state transfers, and restricted communication access. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
 
I call it a very VERY rare misunderstanding
What would you call it if, say, the ATF grabbed people off the street with no warrant because they suspected those people had possession of illegal firearms? Not proof, but suspicions.
 
Wait - so they're just grabbing people without a warrant? Isn't that technically kidnapping?

No, it’s an arrest. Which is perfectly legal and quite common whenever law enforcement has a reasonable suspicion that an offense has been committed.

If you’re going to discuss law, at least read about it instead of watching TikTok.
 
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No, it’s an arrest.
1. When you get arrested you get booked and then you get your counsel.

2. Then, you go before a judge for the initial hearing.

3. There, you plead guilty or not guilty.

4. Based on your case, the judge will either dismiss it or set a date for the preliminary hearing and order bail/bond.

5. Then, the case is tried or a plea deal is reached

6. The convicted will be sentenced.

ICE skips steps 1-5.
 
Which is perfectly legal and quite common whenever law enforcement has a reasonable suspicion that an offense has been committed.
Right, reasonable suspicion. That means they cannot profile, which is what ICE is primarily doing.

If you’re going to discuss law, at least read about it instead of watching TikTok.
It seems like you have never had any experience with our criminal court system (lucky for you).
 
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