Jewish cavalry crush protesters under hoof

[toobfreak]

ICE knows who their people are, but you and I don't because they hide their faces and don't have to identify themselves like law enforcement does.

You're just repeating the same crap. We already went over this. Strike One.

That means no accountability for civil rights violations.

Name me one "civil rights" violation in the history of ICE, then tell me how an undocumented alien criminal illegally living here getting arrested and deported has any "civil right" not to be arrested and deported?

And why would someone want to doxx them? What would be the reason for that?

Do you not read? We already went over that too and I answered that. Strike Two.

what ICE is doing isn't law enforcement, it's immigration and customs enforcement which is not the same thing as law enforcement.

ICE is a police force whose duty is enforce laws pertaining to borders, customs, and immigration. We already went over that.

If this stuff was being conducted by the FBI, then it would be law enforcement.

Wrong again. The FBI is an agency of national criminal investigation, not enforcement. The FBI does not handle tracking down and arresting illegal aliens, that is ICE's job.

But the FBI isn't going to do this because it's not within their scope...because it's not law enforcement.

Damn you are a circular blockhead. Talking to you is like using a calculator with a cracked motherboard. No matter the input, you come up with the wrong answer you want to believe every time. DHS is an agency of national protection and ICE is the law enforcement arm of that agency charged with rounding up and deporting illegal invaders who have broken immigration law. Strike Three, Four, Five and Six. You are now on IGGY. Won't waste anymore time on you. Bye.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Then your argument is bogus. The only thing that has failed is Joe Biden deliberately rushing 20 million more illegals into the country then trying to put them up in hotels and sanctuary cities.

You think 20,000,000 people came into the country in 4 years and I'm the crackpot?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

You're just repeating the same crap. We already went over this. Strike One.

No, we did not go over this. You dismissing something is not us "going over this".

It's you refusing to conduct yourself in good faith.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Name me one "civil rights" violation in the history of ICE

Sure. Shooting an American citizen. That's a civil rights violation.

Detaining someone without due process is a civil rights violation.

Racial profiling is a civil rights violation.

Holding detainees indefinitely and without access to legal support is a civil rights violation.

Losing people "in the system" is a civil rights violation.

Deporting someone to a country they didn't come from is a civil rights violation

I can keep going if you'd like...

 

[toobfreak]

The multiple shootings.

There were TWO shootings, both forced by paid rogue attackers trying to create an inncident. One was shot in self defense and the other got shot in a brawl the attacker started when his gun he was carrying went off.

The citizens who are mistakenly detained.

Names? How can you know they were mistakenly detained if ICE works anonymously? And if they were mistakenly detained, then they have been released. THey are free to file charges. You never heard of local police, state p;olice or others making a mistake? Yet you do not worry about them.

The separation of families as a tactic.

Too bad because Barrack Obuma started separating families, he is the one who put kids in cages. Again, with your total indifference.

The fact that no one who is detained is allowed to speak with a lawyer until it's too late. No due process (because there's no oversight of their activities), no habeus corpus, racial profiling, and civil rights violations

Look asshole, immigration detainees are not entitled to due process because their crime of illegal entry has already been determined, so they are being merely rounded up for deportation, get it? THAT IS THE LAW.

You are the one who sounds out of control and defensive. I have maintained a sober and thoughtful approach to your bad faith.

BLOW ME jerkoff. Your obsession with ICE is obvious and transparent. ICE will deport, ICE will continue on, and you are now on IGNORE, this one last post slipped through. Bye, Jerk. You illegal honeys are going Bye-Bye.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Do you not read? We already went over that too and I answered that. Strike Two.

No, you didn't go over that, you dismissed it. If these people don't want to be doxxed, the reason is because they do not believe what they're doing is good/legal/beneficial/worth it. It's like people who hide behind anonymity on the internet in order to be the worst possible version of themselves.

ICE is a police force whose duty is enforce laws pertaining to borders, customs, and immigration. We already went over that.

No, ICE is a federal agency whose scope is customs and immigration, not law enforcement. There is a difference. It's why the FBI doesn't do this.

Wrong again. The FBI is an agency of national criminal investigation, not enforcement.

You JUST SAID they were. And of course the FBI is law enforcement. That is its entire scope. Yeesh.

The FBI does not handle tracking down and arresting illegal aliens, that is ICE's job.

Right, because it's not law enforcement.

Damn you are a circular blockhead. Talking to you is like using a calculator with a cracked motherboard. No matter the input, you come up with the wrong answer you want to believe every time. DHS is an agency of national protection and ICE is the law enforcement arm of that agency charged with rounding up and deporting illegal invaders who have broken immigration law. Strike Three, Four, Five and Six. You are now on IGGY. Won't waste anymore time on you. Bye.

You seem very angry and scattered. And defensive. You also make up standards on the spot, make demands of the people you talk with, and then when those people don't give you the accommodation you want, you insult them.

That is bad faith, and I expect that out of Palestinians and MAGA.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Mostly hard core deadbeat nutjobs. Netanyahu has a policy of trying to assimilate these clowns inTo the IDF, and make them judges and other govt officials. He should avoid doing that. Having one of them as an IDF officer is just asking for an atrocity; they're hard core racists as well as nutjobs following some loony 'Messiahs'.

A sample of their beliefs:

Netanyahu, Peres remember ‘Torah giant’ | The Jerusalem Post

PM mourns "one of the great Torah sages of our generation"; Lapid, Bennett praise Yosef but Sarid says he won’t forgive him.

www.jpost.com

5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations

Late Sephardi spiritual leader made a range of inflammatory comments -- involving snakes and sinners, gentiles and Blacks

www.timesofisrael.com

1)The ‘guilt’ of Jewish victims of the Holocaust:

“The six million Holocaust victims were reincarnations of the souls of sinners, people who transgressed and did all sorts of things which should not be done. They had been reincarnated in order to atone.”

2) Hurricane Katrina as divine punishment for godlessness and American support for the disengagement from Gaza:

“There was a tsunami and there are terrible natural disasters, because there isn’t enough Torah study… Black people reside there [New Orleans]. Blacks will study the Torah? [God said] let’s bring a tsunami and drown them.”

“Hundreds of thousands remained homeless. Tens of thousands have been killed. All of this because they have no God.”

“Bush was behind Gush Katif [the Gaza settlement bloc]. He encouraged Sharon to expel Gush Katif… We had 15,000 people expelled here, and there 150,000. It was God’s retribution… God does not short-change anyone.”

— Weekly Saturday night sermon in July 2005

3) The purpose of Gentiles — to serve Jews:

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”

— Weekly Saturday night sermon in October 2010

Netanyahu gushed over the cretin:

Netanyahu, Peres remember ‘Torah giant’ | The Jerusalem Post

PM mourns "one of the great Torah sages of our generation"; Lapid, Bennett praise Yosef but Sarid says he won’t forgive him.

www.jpost.com

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu expressed his “profound grief” at the passing Monday of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, calling him one of the “great halachic authorities of our generation.”Within minutes of the announcement of Yosef’s death, Netanyahu – who a couple hours later visited Yosef’s family at the Shamgar funeral home in Jerusalem – issued a statement expressing his deep sorrow, and calling Yosef “among the greatest rabbis of our generation.”“Rav Ovadia was a giant in Torah and Halacha and a spiritual leader for tens of thousands,” Netanyahu said. “He worked hard to enhance Jewish heritage, and at the same time his rulings took into consideration the times and the realities of renewed life in the State of Israel. He was imbued with a love of Torah and his people. I very much appreciated his warm personality and his direct manner.”

Netanyahu's war policies are fine, but his domestic policies suck. Israel should avoid putting any kind of power in these cranks' hands. They are growing as a percentage of the population via a spurt in having children faster than the rest of the population.

 

[rosends]

Netanyahu has a policy of trying to assimilate these clowns inro the IDF,

That's not how things work in Israel. Try again.

Having one of them as an IDF officer is just asking for an atrocity; they're hard core racists as well as nutjobs following some loony 'Messiahs'.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef wasn't in the army.

A sample of their beliefs:

Netanyahu, Peres remember ‘Torah giant’ | The Jerusalem Post

PM mourns "one of the great Torah sages of our generation"; Lapid, Bennett praise Yosef but Sarid says he won’t forgive him.

www.jpost.com

5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations

Late Sephardi spiritual leader made a range of inflammatory comments -- involving snakes and sinners, gentiles and Blacks

www.timesofisrael.com

1)The ‘guilt’ of Jewish victims of the Holocaust:

“The six million Holocaust victims were reincarnations of the souls of sinners, people who transgressed and did all sorts of things which should not be done. They had been reincarnated in order to atone.”

2) Hurricane Katrina as divine punishment for godlessness and American support for the disengagement from Gaza:

“There was a tsunami and there are terrible natural disasters, because there isn’t enough Torah study… Black people reside there [New Orleans]. Blacks will study the Torah? [God said] let’s bring a tsunami and drown them.”

“Hundreds of thousands remained homeless. Tens of thousands have been killed. All of this because they have no God.”

“Bush was behind Gush Katif [the Gaza settlement bloc]. He encouraged Sharon to expel Gush Katif… We had 15,000 people expelled here, and there 150,000. It was God’s retribution… God does not short-change anyone.”

— Weekly Saturday night sermon in July 2005

3) The purpose of Gentiles — to serve Jews:

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”

— Weekly Saturday night sermon in October 2010

Netanyahu gushed over the cretin:

Netanyahu, Peres remember ‘Torah giant’ | The Jerusalem Post

PM mourns "one of the great Torah sages of our generation"; Lapid, Bennett praise Yosef but Sarid says he won’t forgive him.

www.jpost.com

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu expressed his “profound grief” at the passing Monday of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, calling him one of the “great halachic authorities of our generation.”Within minutes of the announcement of Yosef’s death, Netanyahu – who a couple hours later visited Yosef’s family at the Shamgar funeral home in Jerusalem – issued a statement expressing his deep sorrow, and calling Yosef “among the greatest rabbis of our generation.”“Rav Ovadia was a giant in Torah and Halacha and a spiritual leader for tens of thousands,” Netanyahu said. “He worked hard to enhance Jewish heritage, and at the same time his rulings took into consideration the times and the realities of renewed life in the State of Israel. He was imbued with a love of Torah and his people. I very much appreciated his warm personality and his direct manner.”

Netanyahu's war policies are fine, but his domestic policies suck. Israel should avoid putting any kind of power in these cranks' hands.

if you know how to read carefully, you would understand that Netanyahu was very carefully NOT supporting the problematic statements of Rabbi Yosef. But you would have to understand how Israel and Judaism work to appreciate that.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

That's not how things work in Israel. Try again.

You should inform them of that.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef wasn't in the army.

Nobody said he was.

if you know how to read carefully, you would understand that Netanyahu was very carefully NOT supporting the problematic statements of Rabbi Yosef. But you would have to understand how Israel and Judaism work to appreciate that.

You need to take your own advice.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

There were TWO shootings, both forced by paid rogue attackers trying to create an inncident.

I've seen the video with my own two eyes and ICE used excessive force. They murdered those people. And just because the body count (that we know of) is two, that is two too many.

One was shot in self defense and the other got shot in a brawl the attacker started when his gun he was carrying went off.

One was shot in self defense and the other got shot in a brawl the attacker started when his gun he was carrying went off.

Hard to believe given what I saw with my own eyes. You're gonna gaslight me here. Both of those citizens were killed. That is all that matters, not the feelings of the guys who did it.

Names? How can you know they were mistakenly detained if ICE works anonymously?

What are you talking about? Mistakenly detained by ICE.

So ICE is rounding up people, some of whom are citizens, and they're doing that anonymously.

Stop with the bad faith, it's really annoying.

And if they were mistakenly detained, then they have been released.

Have they? That doesn't matter. The fact that they were detained in the first place is the problem. Because ICE was using racial profiling to do it. That is a civil rights violation. A pretty major one. A Constitutional violation of the 4th and 14th amendments, and possibly others.

THey are free to file charges.

How? ICE refuses to disclose who their agents are, so how are any charges supposed to be filed without suing ICE for their list of agents?

You never heard of local police, state p;olice or others making a mistake? Yet you do not worry about them.

They have nothing to do with what ICE is doing, so don't try to drag them into this. BTW - many of those offices and departments have refused to participate in these activities.

Too bad because Barrack Obuma started separating families, he is the one who put kids in cages. Again, with your total indifference.

No he didn't. None of the children were detained more than 30 days, and they were children who weren't accompanied by their parents or relatives.

Look asshole, immigration detainees are not entitled to due process because their crime of illegal entry has already been determined, so they are being merely rounded up for deportation, get it? THAT IS THE LAW.

Everyone is entitled to due process in this country, regardless of your citizenship status. What you are saying is not true. Not at all. Not even close. Without the fundamental legal principle of habeus corpus, you're just kidnapping people. That's all you're doing. You're not enforcing the law because the law requires habeus corpus. Foreign nationals who commit crimes are tried in our court system before they are deported. Same court system that tries citizens. The Constitution does not call for a two-tiered legal system and that is the whole point of the 14th amendment.

LOW ME jerkoff. Your obsession with ICE is obvious and transparent. ICE will deport, ICE will continue on, and you are now on IGNORE, this one last post slipped through. Bye, Jerk. You illegal honeys are going Bye-Bye.

Calm down. You're acting hysterical. Get control of your emotions and don't take everything personally.

 

[Moonglow]

Huh....Even the Jews don’t like the extra Jewy Jews.

The water cannon was a nice touch.

The Ultra-Orthies needed Frau Blucher.

Look at those Anti-Semites attacking the Semites.....!!!

 

[rosends]

You should inform them of that.

I have nothing to inform. Your statement was wrong so I'm informing YOU.

Nobody said he was.

You speak all about him and write "Having one of them as an IDF officer". So were you spending time excerpting quotes by one person but then making a statement about another, unnamed person?

You need to take your own advice.

I do. That's why I educate myself and read carefully. I'm advising you to do the same. Are you resistant to that?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

DHS is an agency of national protection and ICE is the law enforcement arm of that agency charged with rounding up and deporting illegal invaders who have broken immigration law

And in doing so, ICE violates the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments.

Last time I checked Violating the Constitution in service of enforcing laws is super, super, super illegal.

 

[Mac-7]

ICE knows who their people are, but you and I don't because they hide their faces and don't have to identify themselves like law enforcement does. That means no accountability for civil rights violations. And that is a much bigger offense and way more dangerous than someone who is undocumented.

And why would someone want to doxx them? What would be the reason for that? It's not chasing them out of law enforcement because what ICE is doing isn't law enforcement, it's immigration and customs enforcement which is not the same thing as law enforcement.

If this stuff was being conducted by the FBI, then it would be law enforcement. But the FBI isn't going to do this because it's not within their scope...because it's not law enforcement.

The far left pro illegal alien extremists violently resisting immigration enforcement are the reason ICE agents cover their faces

They dont want to die

 

[AnOrangeCat]

The far left pro illegal alien extremists violently resisting immigration enforcement are the reason ICE agents cover their faces

It's not immigration enforcement. It's not law enforcement. It's violating the Constitutional right of due process. It's not up to ICE to determine if someone broke the law, and it isn't up to ICE to deny someone due process over suspicions and profiling.

If detainees are denied due process, then it's not "enforcing the law", it's kidnapping.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

The far left pro illegal alien extremists violently resisting immigration enforcement are the reason ICE agents cover their faces

They dont want to die

OK, so what you're saying is that you would comply with someone who jumped out of an unmarked SUV, claiming to be ICE but refusing to give their name or show their face, and you'd let them just whisk you away to places unknown without the ability to plead your case?

I find that hard to believe.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You do know that many local police and sheriffs offices are refusing to comply with this, correct?

So do you send the Gestapo -er, um I mean ICE- at them?

Are you going to use the jackboot of the government to go after police departments and local law enforcement who don't comply? And what's gonna happen to them if they refuse? Fire them all and replace them with loyalists?

100%! Absolutely.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's not immigration enforcement. It's not law enforcement. It's violating the Constitutional right of due process. It's not up to ICE to determine if someone broke the law, and it isn't up to ICE to deny someone due process over suspicions and profiling.

If detainees are denied due process, then it's not "enforcing the law", it's kidnapping.

If this is sarcasm you need to somehow indicate it. If not, you need to seek psychiatric help.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not ICE. You said so yourself that they work anonymously. So how is there any oversight?


I don't need to hear any claims because I see it with my own two eyes. The oversight is for civil rights violations.



The multiple shootings. The citizens who are mistakenly detained. The separation of families as a tactic. The fact that no one who is detained is allowed to speak with a lawyer until it's too late. No due process (because there's no oversight of their activities), no habeus corpus, racial profiling, and civil rights violations

You are the one who sounds out of control and defensive. I have maintained a sober and thoughtful approach to your bad faith.

Congratulations on earning an "ignore" status. No one that stupid should be posting on a public forum. Seek help immediately. You are suffering from TDS.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

100%! Absolutely.

So Gestapo it is, then.