Jesus Can Not Be Defeated.

[hobelim]

And your knee will bend to Jesus.

Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin. lol....

Jesus taught people to stand up and walk not kneel down or crawl before anything.

It is not kosher to eat the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly.... like you do.

You are a low life coward. Your flesh is vile and degrading.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

lol.
another one of these threads

 

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Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin. lol....

Jesus taught people to stand up and walk not kneel down or crawl before anything.

It is not kosher to eat the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly.... like you do.

Coward.

And Jesus said, "Whoever hates me also hates my Father."

 

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Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin. lol....

Jesus taught people to stand up and walk not kneel down or crawl before anything.

It is not kosher to eat the flesh of anything that crawls on its belly.... like you do.

You are a low life coward. Your flesh is vile and degrading.

Jesus responds...

"Whoever serves me must follow me, and where I am, there also will my servant be. The Father will honor whoever serves me."

 

[hobelim]

And Jesus said, "Whoever hates me also hates my Father."

Apparently you hate both Jesus and his Father.

I have irrefutably shown you what Jesus taught, what he learned from God, and you reject it as the inane ramblings of a madman.

Some Christian.

You are an actor and lying fraud.

 

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Apparently you hate both Jesus and his Father.

I have shown you what Jesus taught and you reject it as the inane ramblings of a madman.

Some Christian.

You are an actor and lying fraud.

Jesus responds...

28 Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it and will glorify it again.”

29 The crowd there heard it and said it was thunder; but others said, “An angel has spoken to him.”

30 Jesus answered and said, “This voice did not come for my sake but for yours."

 

[hobelim]

The crowd there heard it and said it was thunder; but others said, “An angel has spoken to him.”

Damn smart them Hebrews.......

They really knew how to screw with the heads of superstitious and ignorant anti semites.

 

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Damn smart them Hebrews.......

37 Although he had performed so many signs in their presence they did not believe in him,

38 in order that the word which Isaiah the prophet spoke might be fulfilled:

“Lord, who has believed our preaching,​

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to whom has the might of the Lord been revealed?”​

39 For this reason they could not believe, because again Isaiah said:

40 “He blinded their eyes

and hardened their heart,

so that they might not see with their eyes

and understand with their heart and be converted,

and I would heal them.”


41 Isaiah said this because he saw his glory and spoke about him.

42 Nevertheless, many, even among the authorities, believed in him, but because of the Pharisees they did not acknowledge it openly in order not to be expelled from the synagogue.

43 For they preferred human praise to the glory of God.

 

[hobelim]

Although he had performed so many signs in their presence

See ding dong. Signs. Not that he was a wonder worker but signs that he was the awaited messiah by doing that which no one else in heaven, on the earth or under the earth could do.

He revealed the hidden teaching in the law. Knowledge that he could have only received from God.

 

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See ding dong. Signs. Not that he was a wonder worker but signs that he was the awaited messiah by doing that which no one else in heaven, on the earth or under the earth could do.

He revealed the hidden teaching in the law. Knowledge that he could have only received from God.

Jesus respond to your rejection of him...

44 Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me believes not only in me but also in the one who sent me,

45 and whoever sees me sees the one who sent me.

46 I came into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me might not remain in darkness.

47 And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.

48 Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day,

49 because I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is eternal life. So what I say, I say as the Father told me.”

 

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See ding dong. Signs. Not that he was a wonder worker but signs that he was the awaited messiah by doing that which no one else in heaven, on the earth or under the earth could do.

He revealed the hidden teaching in the law. Knowledge that he could have only received from God.

“Our friend Lazarus has died, but I am going to awaken him.”

When Jesus arrived, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.

Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.i

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise.”

Martha said to him, “I know he will rise, in the resurrection on the last day.”

Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?

She said to him, “Yes, Lord. I have come to believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who is coming into the world.”

Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the dead man’s sister, said to him, “Lord, by now there will be a stench; he has been dead for four days.”

Jesus said to her, “Did I not tell you that if you believe you will see the glory of God?”

So they took away the stone. And Jesus raised his eyes and said, “Father, I thank you for hearing me.

I know that you always hear me; but because of the crowd here I have said this, that they may believe that you sent me.”

And when he had said this, he cried out in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

The dead man came out, tied hand and foot with burial bands, and his face was wrapped in a cloth. So Jesus said to them, “Untie him and let him go.”

Now many of the Jews who had come to Mary and seen what he had done began to believe in him.

But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.

So the chief priests and the Pharisees convened the Sanhedrin and said, “What are we going to do? This man is performing many signs.

If we leave him alone, all will believe in him, and the Romans will come* and take away both our land and our nation.”

 

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The miracles Jesus performed were signs that Jesus is God, hobelim

 

[Viktor]

Jesus Can Not Be Defeated.
By JAG
September 16, 2021

Because God can NOT be defeated and Jesus is God.


Jesus is the Word and "In the beginning was the Word
and . . . the Word was God" {John 1:1} . . .


. . . and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and He can not
be defeated by Sin, Satan, and Satan's sad selfish self-seeking sapiens.


Would you please seize . . . upon this mighty truth:


Jesus is NOW the most powerful Person in the Universe. John 13:3
John 3:35 John 5:22 Col. 2:9-10 Matt. 28:18 1 Cor. 15:24-25


And He was there when . . .


The Holy Trinity {Father, Son, Holy Spirit} created Andromeda, a galaxy
41,631,870 miles in diameter {67 kiloparsecs} which is only one of a few
hundred billion galaxies in the Universe ~ by the way Andromeda has an
estimated one trillion stars.


Speaking of stars . . .


Astronomers estimate there are between 30 to 70 billion trillion stars in the
Universe. The Father, His Son, and the Holy Spirit created it all.


So? So They are powerful. They can not be defeated.


"Now wait just a minute", objected Frail Christian Pessimist, "the Father, the Lord
Jesus, and the Holy Spirit lose the War For The World. They fail to Christianize
the world, and defeat evil, before Jesus returns."


Then out spake Braveheart the man of God, "So, Frail, you teach that Jesus and
His Great Commission fails?"


"Yes", replied Frail Christian Pessimist, "Jesus' command to His Christian Church
to go and make disciples of all nations will fail."


"But consider this.", replied Braveheart the man of God, "When Jesus commanded
His Christian Church to carry out His Great Commission, He said 'All authority in
heaven and on earth has been given to me. THEREFORE go and make disciples
of all nations' and He added 'surely I am with you always to the very end of the age'"


"Where in the Bible does Jesus say all that?", asked Frail Christian Pessimist.


""Matthew 28:16-20", replied Braveheart the man of God.


"Moreover", continued Braveheart the man of God, "Jesus' death on The Cross
and His Resurrection, has NOW defeated all His Enemies, and Sin, and Satan
and . . .

. . . Jesus NOW sits at the right hand of the Father God Almighty, so Jesus NOW
has ALL power to win the War For The World.


"I base my beliefs about the future on what the newspapers say", replied Frail
Christian Pessimist, "and the news headlines say the world is growing more and
more evil all the time."


"So Evil, not Jesus, wins the War For The World?", asked Braveheart the man of God.


"Yes, that's exactly right. You are correct", replied Frail Christian Pessimist.


"Are you saying that Jesus is a Loser?", asked Braveheart the man of God.


"I fear the worst", replied Frail Christian Pessimist.


{A wise man once asked:
Can we trust newspapers and news headlines to tell us the truth? Do you, reader,
trust newspapers to tell you the truth?}


"By the way I'm curious, what are your favorite news sources?", asked Braveheart the
man of God.


"I read the news headlines every day on the Internet", replied Frail Christian Pessimist,
"and I listen to the cable news networks a lot. I particularly like Fox News."


"But the Bible is our source", replied Braveheart the man of God, "and all Scripture is given
by inspiration of God {2 Timothy 3:16-20} . . .


. . . and we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us . . .


. . . this means . . .


. . . we can successfully carry out our Lord Jesus' Great Commission command, to go and
make disciples of all nations."


"No! We can not do that", replied Frail Christian Pessimist. "Evil is more powerful than Good,
and the Good loses the War For The World. I'm not giving up my newspapers."


Elsewhere on the battlefield . . .


Lieutenant Pale Grasshopper: "Look General, our Christian Army is taking heavy losses
everywhere along our front, on both our flanks, and in our center. We're losing the battle,
sir, and we must speedily retreat right now, General."


General John Strongfaith: "Stand firm. Stay calm. Be strong. Get a hold of yourself
Lieutenant Grasshopper. Have faith in God. Hold on. Take courage. Our heavy casualties
only serve to make our army battle-hardened which makes us stronger. We know how this
war ends. We win it. This Christian Army gradually destroys all it's enemies {1 Cor. 15:24-25}.
Therefore we fight it on out to the end. So advance the entire line forward right now, and do it
with a glad heart."

Back to Braveheart . . .


Braveheart the man of God speaks:


"There is world-changing power in The Blood of The Cross.


There is world-changing power in Jesus' Resurrection.


The Bible says Jesus 'was declared the Son Of God WITH POWER by the Resurrection from the
dead' {Philippians 2:8-9} . . .


. . . and shortly after His Resurrection, Jesus boldly proclaimed that 'All authority has been given
to Me in heaven and on earth' {Matthew 28:18}

So?


So Jesus commanded His evangelizing Great Commission SOON AFTER His Resurrection. Why
is this important? Because of the huge enormous power of His Resurrection to change the world.


We have Victory in Jesus! Jesus NOW has the power to empower His Christian Church to go and
make disciples of all nations."


"Evil is strong and the Christian Church will fail to successfully carry out Jesus' Great Commission",
replied Frail Christian Pessimist.


Braveheart the man of God, in kindness and with compassion now said to Frail Christian Pessimist:


"Frail, I leave you with these Christian victory thoughts: There is no power on this earth that can defeat
the power of The Cross and the power of Jesus' Resurrection . . .


. . . that now empowers Jesus' Christian Church to successfully carry out His Great Commission to
go and make disciples of all nations . . .


. . . therefore the Lord Jesus will gradually win the War For The World.


"The newspapers paint a different picture", replied Frail Christian Pessimist, "and I have faith in the news."


[]



Agree?
Disagree?
Thoughts?






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Christians sometimes talk as if their religion is the only one. Jews, Moslems, Buddhists and Hindus do not regard Jesus as divine. .

 

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hobelim , Jesus never said if you believe in what I am telling you you will live. Jesus always says if you believe IN ME you will live.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus respond to your rejection of him...

44 Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me believes not only in me but also in the one who sent me,

45 and whoever sees me sees the one who sent me.

46 I came into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me might not remain in darkness.

47 And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.

48 Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day,

49 because I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is eternal life. So what I say, I say as the Father told me.”

I don't reject Jesus. You do. In fact your entire religious belief system is an open demonstration of pure hatred for God in your deliberate defiance of the first command and desecration of the teachings of Jesus... Pssst! You celebrate the death of Jesus as if his death frees you from the consequences of your own stupidity so you can be an asshole for the rest of your life without compunction.

I have glorified Jesus by undoing the slander that you perpetuate about him by irrefutably showing the wisdom of his teaching, the wisdom of God in giving the divine commands especially the command to refrain from the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

And again,. thank you for so generously demonstrating for all the world to see the terrifying and deeply disturbing consequences for setting aside that Law and teaching others to do the same.

 

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I don't reject Jesus. You do. In fact your entire religious belief system is an open demonstration of pure hatred for God in your deliberate defiance of the first command and desecration of the teachings of Jesus... Pssst! You celebrate the death of Jesus as if his death frees you from the consequences of your own stupidity so you can be an asshole for the rest of your life without compunction.

I have glorified Jesus by undoing the slander that you perpetuate about him by irrefutably showing the wisdom of his teaching, the wisdom of God in giving the divine commands especially the command to refrain from the vile and degrading flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

And again,. thank you for so generously demonstrating for all the world to see the terrifying and deeply disturbing consequences for setting aside that Law and teaching others to do the same.

If you do not acknowledge that Jesus is Lord you do reject him.

Jesus never said if you believe in what I am telling you you will live. Jesus always says if you believe IN ME you will live.

The miracles Jesus performed were signs that Jesus is God.

And Jesus answered, “I told you that I AM.

 

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hobelim what is your interpretation of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead?

“Our friend Lazarus has died, but I am going to awaken him.”​

​

When Jesus arrived, he found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.​

​

Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.i​

​

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise.”​

​

Martha said to him, “I know he will rise, in the resurrection on the last day.”​

​

Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?​

​

She said to him, “Yes, Lord. I have come to believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who is coming into the world.”​

​

Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the dead man’s sister, said to him, “Lord, by now there will be a stench; he has been dead for four days.”​

​

Jesus said to her, “Did I not tell you that if you believe you will see the glory of God?”​

​

So they took away the stone. And Jesus raised his eyes and said, “Father, I thank you for hearing me.​

​

I know that you always hear me; but because of the crowd here I have said this, that they may believe that you sent me.”​

​

And when he had said this, he cried out in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”​

​

The dead man came out, tied hand and foot with burial bands, and his face was wrapped in a cloth. So Jesus said to them, “Untie him and let him go.”​

​

Now many of the Jews who had come to Mary and seen what he had done began to believe in him.​

​

But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.​

​

So the chief priests and the Pharisees convened the Sanhedrin and said, “What are we going to do? This man is performing many signs.​

​

If we leave him alone, all will believe in him, and the Romans will come* and take away both our land and our nation.”​

​

 

[hobelim]

And when he had said this, he cried out in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”The dead man came out, tied hand and foot with burial bands, and his face was wrapped in a cloth. So Jesus said to them, “Untie him and let him go.”

This story is about Lazarus losing faith in Jesus, dying, by returning to pharisaic beliefs and practices, whitewashed tombs, where the "repentant sinner" was kept in a windowless room for a week unwashed after which they would take a ritual bath and only then could return to good standing in the community.

After 4 days in the desert heat his body stank. Go figure.

Jesus came and said "come out" and he did. Whoop di doo. He then told his disciples to remove his grave clothes which means that he told his disciples to deprogram him.

A miracle!

At least as much of a miracle as if you rose out of your grave, stood up, and walked like a man.

 

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This story is about Lazarus losing faith in Jesus, dying, by returning to pharisaic beliefs and practices, whitewashed tombs, where the "repentant sinner" was kept in a windowless room for a week unwashed after which they would take a ritual bath and only then could return to good standing in the community.

After 4 days in the desert heat his body stank. Go figure.

Jesus came and said "come out" and he did. Whoop di doo. He then told his disciples to remove his grave clothes which means that he told his disciples to deprogram him.

A miracle!

At least as much of a miracle as if you rose out of your grave, stood up, and walked like a man.

Even you don't believe that stupid story you just made up.

 

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This story is about Lazarus losing faith in Jesus, dying, by returning to pharisaic beliefs and practices, whitewashed tombs, where the "repentant sinner" was kept in a windowless room for a week unwashed after which they would take a ritual bath and only then could return to good standing in the community.

After 4 days in the desert heat his body stank. Go figure.

Jesus came and said "come out" and he did. Whoop di doo. He then told his disciples to remove his grave clothes which means that he told his disciples to deprogram him.

A miracle!

At least as much of a miracle as if you rose out of your grave, stood up, and walked like a man.

So if this story is about Lazarus losing faith in Jesus, where is that explained in the story? Where is the narrative of Lazarus lost faith? And why would Lazarus losing faith in Jesus be important in the first place. So what if Lazarus lost faith in Jesus? Why would that be a big deal?

You see, Hobelim, it's easy to expose your lies. Do you have any idea how many narratives there are of the miracles performed by Jesus. It would be entertaining to walk you through each one and have you gasping for silly explanations that are obviously made up by you to serve your mission of subordinating Christianity. I can do the same thing using the parables told by Jesus. In each account you would be scrambling to make up a narrative. It would be so easy to poke holes in them because YOU ARE MAKING STUFF UP to subordinate Christianity. What kind of a person does that?