It’s time we stop calling China a communist country

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com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
That’s some fine hair splitting you have going on here.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
It's a mix.

It's a system of government marked by centralization of authority in which the state plans and controls a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, and a single, authoritarian party holding power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order.

They are Fascist Commies.
:dunno:
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
They don’t, they are capitalist. Not a very free market but neither was nazi germany. People do privately own the businesses there. But when the party calls their number, their business will answer. This is why they haven’t collapsed and can actually produce, feed their population, and be somewhat innovative (just like Germany), even though they’re stealing most of the tech they’re producing. They paved the way on 5G. They beat us to ultra-hypersonic missiles. They’re making submersible battleships. They’re starting to spread their innovative wings.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
They don’t, they are capitalist. Not a very free market but neither was nazi germany. People do privately own the businesses there. But when the party calls their number, their business will answer. This is why they haven’t collapsed and can actually produce, feed their population, and be somewhat innovative (just like Germany), even though they’re stealing most of the tech they’re producing. They paved the way on 5G. They beat us to ultra-hypersonic missiles. They’re making submersible battleships. They’re starting to spread their innovative wings.
They are not capitalists. They are communists. The government owns nearly all important sectors of business: banking, energy, construction, communications, etc.

Sure, there are “privately owned” businesses, but they can be taken over by the government if it wishes.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
I agree whole heartedly but fools have to have their new iphones
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
They don’t, they are capitalist. Not a very free market but neither was nazi germany. People do privately own the businesses there. But when the party calls their number, their business will answer. This is why they haven’t collapsed and can actually produce, feed their population, and be somewhat innovative (just like Germany), even though they’re stealing most of the tech they’re producing. They paved the way on 5G. They beat us to ultra-hypersonic missiles. They’re making submersible battleships. They’re starting to spread their innovative wings.
They are not capitalists. They are communists. The government owns nearly all important sectors of business: banking, energy, construction, communications, etc.

Sure, there are “privately owned” businesses, but they can be taken over by the government if it wishes.
That’s exactly how nazi germany worked too. And there’s a fuck ton more privately owned business in China per capita than there was in nazi germany. Communism and fascism are very similar. Ones just slightly less arrogant and slightly less narcissistic in that they realize they can’t control the production and distribution of everything (which leads to starving masses fields of bodies that didn’t tow the party line, which is exactly what happened when China was an actual communist country).
 
China is NOT a true Communist nation, just as the CCCP was never a true communist nation either, they were actually Nationalist Socialists state.

If you read the Communist Manifesto, you will see that never has a true Communist state ever existed.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
That’s some fine hair splitting you have going on here.
No it’s an important distinction in today’s world, not so much in the overall big picture of political definitions since communism and fascism are extremely similar. Why I say it’s important is because do you think businesses and organizations like the NBA are going to continue to bend the knee to a country that’s PROPERLY labeled a fascist country? The answer is no. People barely consider it a communist country because it really hasn’t been for 30 years. Even if it was communism is no longer seen as the evil it should be. Fascism on the other hand is seen as the ultimate evil.

China is even aggressively expanding and building up their military, just like 1930s nazi Germany. Look at Hong Kong. Look at the South China Sea. Look at how they claim Taiwan is their rightful territory. What the fuck is the point of teaching the history of the nazis when we don’t recognize when that history is beginning to rhyme?
 
China is NOT a true Communist nation, just as the CCCP was never a true communist nation either, they were actually Nationalist Socialists state.

If you read the Communist Manifesto, you will see that never has a true Communist state ever existed.
Yeah because the communist manifesto was such a dumb and impractical idea that lead to the death of hundreds of millions. Even Marx said the only way to get to true communism is to work your way there with a socialist country.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
It's a mix.

It's a system of government marked by centralization of authority in which the state plans and controls a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, and a single, authoritarian party holding power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order.

They are Fascist Commies.
:dunno:
All commies are fascists.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
It's a mix.

It's a system of government marked by centralization of authority in which the state plans and controls a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, and a single, authoritarian party holding power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order.

They are Fascist Commies.
:dunno:
The American left's desired end state.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
They don’t, they are capitalist. Not a very free market but neither was nazi germany. People do privately own the businesses there. But when the party calls their number, their business will answer. This is why they haven’t collapsed and can actually produce, feed their population, and be somewhat innovative (just like Germany), even though they’re stealing most of the tech they’re producing. They paved the way on 5G. They beat us to ultra-hypersonic missiles. They’re making submersible battleships. They’re starting to spread their innovative wings.
They are not capitalists. They are communists. The government owns nearly all important sectors of business: banking, energy, construction, communications, etc.

Sure, there are “privately owned” businesses, but they can be taken over by the government if it wishes.
They are communist/socialist, but since communism/socialism is not really a feasible economic system they have created Special Economic Zones in order to siphon wealth, jobs and technology from western liberal democracies.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.
Communism is when the state literally owns much of the industries, which in China’s case it does.

Fascism allows private ownership of companies, but the government abuses its authority and forces the private companies to do their bidding. Like a legitimized mafia. For example, when the Hussein rounded up all the health insurance companies and told them “this is how its going to happen” and forced ObamaCare on them. In America we don’t have a free market healthcare system, it is straight up fascist.
They don’t, they are capitalist. Not a very free market but neither was nazi germany. People do privately own the businesses there. But when the party calls their number, their business will answer. This is why they haven’t collapsed and can actually produce, feed their population, and be somewhat innovative (just like Germany), even though they’re stealing most of the tech they’re producing. They paved the way on 5G. They beat us to ultra-hypersonic missiles. They’re making submersible battleships. They’re starting to spread their innovative wings.
They are not capitalists. They are communists. The government owns nearly all important sectors of business: banking, energy, construction, communications, etc.

Sure, there are “privately owned” businesses, but they can be taken over by the government if it wishes.
They are communist/socialist, but since communism/socialism is not really a feasible economic system they have created Special Economic Zones in order to siphon wealth, jobs and technology from western liberal democracies.
With the help and encouragement of American Democrats.
 
com•mu•nism kŏm′yə-nĭz″əm
  • n.
    A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
fasc•ism făsh′ĭz″əm


  • n.
    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


    Now, which of these definitions is more fitting to what China actually is. They have a free market system, but business are beholden to the government. Whatever the party says goes. If the party tells them to install spyware into the computer chips they manufacture, they do so. Opposition to the party is disappeared. 2 million Muslims are in concentration camps and forcibly sterilized by the party. China believes it was the 1st empire and its going to “take its place” as the dominant empire of the world...Like I said, it’s time to stop calling China a communist country.

Yeah it's no longer a strict communist country. They have limited free markets in specific locations.

They still hold 100% power of the communist party.
 

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