Its time to shit or get off the pot, Mr President

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Yes. We have won virtually every battle that weve fought after WW2.

Holy shit on a shingle!! WHAT ?? You are in serious need of a history lesson.....or some other kind of more personal help.

 

[Southern Dad]

What's not to hate??

He’s the President of this country. He’s our leader. Like it or not, the people elected him to lead us. You can side with the illegals, you can side with Russia, you can side with the Chinese, you can side with Iran, Cuba, Venezuela… they all hate Trump, too.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

He’s the President of this country. He’s our leader. Like it or not, the people elected him to lead us. You can side with the illegals, you can side with Russia, you can side with the Chinese, you can side with Iran, Cuba, Venezuela… they all hate Trump, too.

Side with Russia? Dude!! That would be Trump!

 

[Godboy]

No one is there? Where is “there”?

Vietnam.

 

[Godboy]

Holy shit on a shingle!! WHAT ?? You are in serious need of a history lesson.....or some other kind of more personal help.

No, YOU need a lesson in military history.

Google AI - The U.S. military has won the vast majority of individual tactical battles it has fought since World War II, with a battlefield victory rate estimated at over 90% for specific engagements

 

[Southern Dad]

Side with Russia? Dude!! That would be Trump!

Really? Trump hasn’t done anything that Russia agrees with, but they do want Trump to be weaker, just like you do.

 

[TimFitz]

Really? Trump hasn’t done anything that Russia agrees with, but they do want Trump to be weaker, just like you do.

Nonsense.

Trump publically supported Putin’s war.

He blocked aid to Ukraine, and urged the GOP Congress to do the same when he was out of office.

The Russians are delighted that Trump attacked Iran. Especially after he lifted their oil sanction sjust in time to reap the windfall from Trump’s actions!

Trump’s continual assaults on all of our traditional allies is music to a Putin’s ears.

The Russians have wanted to undermine the E U, the UN, NATO and the entire post WWII world order. This has been a primary Russian foreign policy goal since `945.

And Trump is doing their bidding.
He even has his flat earth base cheering for Moscow.

And yes, the Russians do want the United States to abondon its role as a world leader.

And Trump is obliging, in spades.

 

[candycorn]

Vietnam.

Plenty of people in Vietnam. Nobody is in Saigon. Since there is no Saigon any longer…the winners renamed it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No, YOU need a lesson in military history.

Google AI - The U.S. military has won the vast majority of individual tactical battles it has fought since World War II, with a battlefield victory rate estimated at over 90% for specific engagements

You must also believe that the easter bunny, the fairy god mother and santa clause are real.....


AI Overview



History views the outcome of the Vietnam War as a decisive military and political victory for North Vietnam and the Viet Cong, who successfully unified the country. For the United States, which failed to prevent the spread of communism and withdrew its forces, historians generally classify it as a strategic defeat or a quagmire

History will not call the Afghanistan war a US victory, but rather a strategic failure or a costly stalemate that ended in defeat. While the US achieved its initial counterterrorism goals, the broader mission to build a stable, democratic Afghan state collapsed when the Taliban seized power.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Really? Trump hasn’t done anything that Russia agrees with, but they do want Trump to be weaker, just like you do.

• The 2018 Helsinki Summit: During a joint press conference, Trump appeared to accept Putin's denial of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, casting doubt on the findings of the U.S. intelligence community. This prompted widespread bipartisan backlash in the U.S.
• Ukraine and NATO: Critics have frequently accused him of deferring to Russian geopolitical objectives by questioning the value of NATO, criticizing the scale of U.S. aid to Ukraine, and pushing for ceasefires that would leave Russian forces in control of Ukrainian territory.
• Policy Shifts and Sanctions: Critics point to his administration's attempts to initiate peace summits on terms favorable to Russia and pauses on certain military and diplomatic actions against Russia as signs of appeasement or deference
• Financial and Business Connections: Critics point to a history of Trump's financial ties to Russia, including real estate investments and attempts to secure business deals in Moscow. Some journalists and former intelligence officials argue this created conflicts of interest, suggesting Trump could be financially indebted to Russian oligarchs. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Political Alliances: Trump has frequently praised Putin as a strong leader, and his foreign policy stances have sometimes aligned with Russian interests, such as his skepticism toward NATO and his approach to the war in Ukraine. Supporters argue this is simply a pragmatic approach to diplomacy and avoiding conflict, while opponents claim it demonstrates subservience or a lack of commitment to Western alliances. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
• Vladimir Putin’s Investment in Donald Trump Pays Off Bigly
  Feb 27, 2025 — It downplayed the whole Trump-Russia saga. Trump is acting like Putin's handmaid—and pursuing policies and creating discord that c...
  Mother Jones
• Links between Trump associates and Russian officials
  2016 campaign. During the 2016 campaign, Trump repeatedly praised Russian president Vladimir Putin as a strong leader.

 

[Godboy]

You must also believe that the easter bunny, the fairy god mother and santa clause are real.....


AI Overview



History views the outcome of the Vietnam War as a decisive military and political victory for North Vietnam and the Viet Cong, who successfully unified the country. For the United States, which failed to prevent the spread of communism and withdrew its forces, historians generally classify it as a strategic defeat or a quagmire

History will not call the Afghanistan war a US victory, but rather a strategic failure or a costly stalemate that ended in defeat. While the US achieved its initial counterterrorism goals, the broader mission to build a stable, democratic Afghan state collapsed when the Taliban seized power.

Just because a politician forces the troops to come home, doesnt mean that the military itself "lost the war". The military was straight up trouncing the enemy in both of your examples.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Just because a politician forces the troops to come home, doesnt mean that the military itself "lost the war". The military was straight up trouncing the enemy in both of your examples.

It appears that you have a pathological need to believe in fantasies as I suspected from your screen tag.

In both cases the decision to pull out was made because the wars were unwinnable and unsustainable. That is not winning

It would be the same shit all over again in Iran.

 

[Southern Dad]

Nonsense.

Trump publically supported Putin’s war.

He blocked aid to Ukraine, and urged the GOP Congress to do the same when he was out of office.

The Russians are delighted that Trump attacked Iran. Especially after he lifted their oil sanction sjust in time to reap the windfall from Trump’s actions!

Trump’s continual assaults on all of our traditional allies is music to a Putin’s ears.

The Russians have wanted to undermine the E U, the UN, NATO and the entire post WWII world order. This has been a primary Russian foreign policy goal since `945.

And Trump is doing their bidding.
He even has his flat earth base cheering for Moscow.

And yes, the Russians do want the United States to abondon its role as a world leader.

And Trump is obliging, in spades.

Ukraine is getting more weapons and munitions, the difference is we are getting paid for it. Other countries were extending loans to Ukraine to buy weapons we were expected to give it to them for free. Under Biden we were far from a world leader. Biden watched Russia mass troops, munitions, and equipment on that border for 13-14 months doing NOTHING. Then sent conflicting messages when the invasion was in the works.

 

[TimFitz]

Ukraine is getting more weapons and munitions, the difference is we are getting paid for it. Other countries were extending loans to Ukraine to buy weapons we were expected to give it to them for free. Under Biden we were far from a world leader. Biden watched Russia mass troops, munitions, and equipment on that border for 13-14 months doing NOTHING. Then sent conflicting messages when the invasion was in the works.

This too, is false.

No significant military aid to Ukraine has ever been approved by the Trump regieme.

Ukraine has had a significant windfall in increased direct military aid.

From NATO and the EU.

NOT the United States, whose leader still supports Putin.

There is no point in criticizing Biden for not reacting directly to the Russian military buildup.

Trump would have held the door for them when they invaded.

He called the Russian invasion a “genius move”.

 

[22lcidw]

Nonsense.

Trump publically supported Putin’s war.

He blocked aid to Ukraine, and urged the GOP Congress to do the same when he was out of office.

The Russians are delighted that Trump attacked Iran. Especially after he lifted their oil sanction sjust in time to reap the windfall from Trump’s actions!

Trump’s continual assaults on all of our traditional allies is music to a Putin’s ears.

The Russians have wanted to undermine the E U, the UN, NATO and the entire post WWII world order. This has been a primary Russian foreign policy goal since `945.

And Trump is doing their bidding.
He even has his flat earth base cheering for Moscow.

And yes, the Russians do want the United States to abondon its role as a world leader.

And Trump is obliging, in spades.

You are on the side of a malevolent world government push. Putin is not for that.

 

[Mac-7]

This too, is false.

No significant military aid to Ukraine has ever been approved by the Trump regieme.

Ukraine has had a significant windfall in increased direct military aid.

From NATO and the EU.

NOT the United States, whose leader still supports Putin.

There is no point in criticizing Biden for not reacting directly to the Russian military buildup.

Trump would have held the door for them when they invaded.

He called the Russian invasion a “genius move”.

The lies that libs tell are unbelievable

 

[Godboy]

In both cases the decision to pull out was made because the wars were unwinnable and unsustainable. That is not winning

Incorrect. The wars arent popular with people and you evetually get "war weariness". This causes politicians to make political decisions, not military decisions. They pullout because they want votes. The people never know what it takes to win wars, and neither do the politicians.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thats a cowardly deflection

Of course you want America to lose and for Iran to build thd bomb

Just be honest and say so

Trump said “we won” like 10 different times and Irans nuclear program was “obliterated”

What am I missing here?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Ground invasion. It would literally just take a few weeks, tops.

Dick Cheney is that you?

 

[TimFitz]

You are on the side of a malevolent world government push. Putin is not for that.

You are making up BS, again.