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You make an excellent point as to "Why" there is a need for Christianity to exist..........Do you comprehend just what is meant by addering to the Christian faith? The things you mentionded as the fault of Christianity actually have nothing to do with the actual source of Christian faith, the word of God. I defy you to present the authorization to condone torture, imprisonment, within the actual text of the New Testament of Christ Jesus. Book, Chapter and Verse........its not Christianity that is fault, its the corruption of the actual word of God and the faith found therein that is to blame. There are many instances where Christianity is used as nothing but a political tool or a method to garner personal wealth, power and or fame.
Hilter claimed to be a Christain..........there are many TV evangelists that claim to be Christian but preach nothing but a false message of "resproperity"...i.e., God loves you.......but send your money to my address and the Lord will repay you 10 fold.....yada, yada, yada.......all you have to do is pray, "I accept Jesus into my heart. These people are wovles in sheep's clothing........preying on those who can least afford their short con, the weak, the feeble expecting something that was never promised in scripture......a pesonal miracle...the widows and those on a fixed socialist income. Its evil personified.
Then of course we find the RCC attempting to rule the world from the "Vatican".......where it became a crime to even own and read from a Bible with only the clergy authorized to read the supposed word of God, in a dead language that only the highly educated could comprehend. The RCC brought to the world such Noble events as the Insquisitions, and the Crusades......while making it a crime in all the western civilized world to practice any religion other than Roman Catholicism.........controlling all the heads of state from Rome. Rome corrupted the actual word of God several hundred years after the actual church of Christ was established in order to use it as a political tool to accomplish what the fading military might of the Roman Empire could not, conquer and control the known world.
Again...........I defy you or anyone to present the Book, Chapter and Verse that authorized governments such as Rome or the Nazi regime to do what they did in the name of Christianity.
Its MEN and the sin they engage that have caused the events you project to be so concerned about..........what have you did to stop this tortue, war, murders.......theift....etc. in the name of Atheism? According to atheism.......its doctrine is responsible for such corruption. Might makes right........survival of the fittest.......you promote no golden rule, you promote a biased (at best) silver rule do good when someone is looking, and steal cheat, kill, back bite only when you are sure you will not have to pay the penalty of a Judicial System that based its fundamental principles upon Blackstones Commentaries on the law of England, with Blackstone using the Christian/Judeo philsophy as the corner stone to English Law. Blackstone is responsible for the majority of the founding documents and wording of the United States Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Laws.
Black to the original meaning of Christianity. It means "To be Called Out from the World and its god.........." Satan.
"If ye were of this world; the world would love its own; but because you are not of this world, but I have choosen you out of this world, therefore the world hates you." -- John 15:19.
You have demonstrated this to perfection......attempting to blame Christianity for faults that are common to those who DO NOT BELIEVE, call them what you will, I call them unblievers.....be they agnostic, athesits, or those of a corrupted faith that uses religion as a tool for personal gain.
English is the language of the US, but other languages are allowed.
It would be the same with a Christian nation.
I find it ironic, these atheists say they've abandoned Christianity because of the evil actions of some of it's alleged practitioners yet they never abandon atheism because of the far worse actions of atheism's practitioners, notably the 150 million murdered in the last century at the hands of atheist regimes.You make an excellent point as to "Why" there is a need for Christianity to exist..........Do you comprehend just what is meant by addering to the Christian faith? The things you mentionded as the fault of Christianity actually have nothing to do with the actual source of Christian faith, the word of God. I defy you to present the authorization to condone torture, imprisonment, within the actual text of the New Testament of Christ Jesus. Book, Chapter and Verse........its not Christianity that is fault, its the corruption of the actual word of God and the faith found therein that is to blame. There are many instances where Christianity is used as nothing but a political tool or a method to garner personal wealth, power and or fame.
Hilter claimed to be a Christain..........there are many TV evangelists that claim to be Christian but preach nothing but a false message of "resproperity"...i.e., God loves you.......but send your money to my address and the Lord will repay you 10 fold.....yada, yada, yada.......all you have to do is pray, "I accept Jesus into my heart. These people are wovles in sheep's clothing........preying on those who can least afford their short con, the weak, the feeble expecting something that was never promised in scripture......a pesonal miracle...the widows and those on a fixed socialist income. Its evil personified.
Then of course we find the RCC attempting to rule the world from the "Vatican".......where it became a crime to even own and read from a Bible with only the clergy authorized to read the supposed word of God, in a dead language that only the highly educated could comprehend. The RCC brought to the world such Noble events as the Insquisitions, and the Crusades......while making it a crime in all the western civilized world to practice any religion other than Roman Catholicism.........controlling all the heads of state from Rome. Rome corrupted the actual word of God several hundred years after the actual church of Christ was established in order to use it as a political tool to accomplish what the fading military might of the Roman Empire could not, conquer and control the known world.
Again...........I defy you or anyone to present the Book, Chapter and Verse that authorized governments such as Rome or the Nazi regime to do what they did in the name of Christianity.
Its MEN and the sin they engage that have caused the events you project to be so concerned about..........what have you did to stop this tortue, war, murders.......theift....etc. in the name of Atheism? According to atheism.......its doctrine is responsible for such corruption. Might makes right........survival of the fittest.......you promote no golden rule, you promote a biased (at best) silver rule do good when someone is looking, and steal cheat, kill, back bite only when you are sure you will not have to pay the penalty of a Judicial System that based its fundamental principles upon Blackstones Commentaries on the law of England, with Blackstone using the Christian/Judeo philsophy as the corner stone to English Law. Blackstone is responsible for the majority of the founding documents and wording of the United States Declaration of Independence and Constitutional Laws.
Black to the original meaning of Christianity. It means "To be Called Out from the World and its god.........." Satan.
"If ye were of this world; the world would love its own; but because you are not of this world, but I have choosen you out of this world, therefore the world hates you." -- John 15:19.
You have demonstrated this to perfection......attempting to blame Christianity for faults that are common to those who DO NOT BELIEVE, call them what you will, I call them unblievers.....be they agnostic, athesits, or those of a corrupted faith that uses religion as a tool for personal gain.
This is a typical canard: ''atheism's practitioners''. You make a mistake common among religious extremists of claiming atheism as the reason for the acts of sociopaths such as Stalin, Mao, Lenin as examples. That's clearly false but it's a tactic used by religious extremists who have a need to promote their hate.I find it ironic, these atheists say they've abandoned Christianity because of the evil actions of some of it's alleged practitioners yet they never abandon atheism because of the far worse actions of atheism's practitioners, notably the 150 million murdered in the last century at the hands of atheist regimes.
I find it ironic, these atheists say they've abandoned Christianity because of the evil actions of some of it's alleged practitioners yet they never abandon atheism because of the far worse actions of atheism's practitioners, notably the 150 million murdered in the last century at the hands of atheist regimes.
Actually atheism is a religion according to the Supreme Court. But even so, there is a whole lot of bad that accompanies a lack of belief in God. And for the 300th time, I didn't call for the banning of beliefs as if I could; I called for an end for the government promotion of atheismAtheism isn't a religion. It's simply a lack of belief in God. Do you actually think you can legislate a belief in God?
Since these atheists targeted and murdered Christians and closed Christian churches, then yes, their atheism most certainly was the motivation for their crimes. Also is the fact that atheism is common to all of Marxism. You can't separate the two. So your claim that atheism was not a motivating factor is disproven nonsense.This is a typical canard: ''atheism's practitioners''. You make a mistake common among religious extremists of claiming atheism as the reason for the acts of sociopaths such as Stalin, Mao, Lenin as examples. That's clearly false but it's a tactic used by religious extremists who have a need to promote their hate.
Marxism, which defines a political ideology, was the prime motivator for Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. Atheism was not a motivating factor in their atrocities.
On the other hand, Christian religious extremists will refuse to acknowledge or accept the atrocities committed by their religion was directly related to the goal of spreading the religion, typically resulting in atrocities related to converting the heathen.
Any comparison of the death toll resulting from the 20th century's Marxist sociopaths vs. religion's assault on humanity will show that religion is a ''supremely'' effective killer.
Since these atheists targeted and murdered Christians and closed Christian churches, then yes, their atheism most certainly was the motivation for their crimes. Also is the fact that atheism is common to all of Marxism. You can't separate the two. So your claim that atheism was not a motivating factor is disproven nonsense.
Also love the little pivot you made from Christianity to 'religion' so you could count Muslim atrocities. That's a favorite maneuver for the atheists.
No, Christianity has a special place of enmity from the Communist left. Islam, not so much. That's why radical Iran is an ally of both Russia and China. Christianity, particularly Catholicism is always in the crosshairs of every leftwing dictator, because we are their chief impediment.You make no rational connection between Leninist / Marxist sociopaths of the 20th century and your failed attempts at projecting a persecution complex. The sociopaths of the 20th century repressed all dissent, both political and religious in nature. Christianity didn't find any special notice. If you want to play the ouch contest, you didn't succeed.
Ironic you would cite violence towards little babies, since abortion is the sacrament of the atheist left.Sociopathy is the common link connecting the Marxist rulers. Oddly, they promised only an earthly paradise. The Christian conquistadors, on the other hand, would baptize the heathen South American Indian babies before bashing their heads on the rocks at the rivers edge to send them to a ''better place''.
Whatever false Christians have done in the past millennia has paled to the 33 years in the last century when atheists murdered 150 million.Your ''pivot'' comment was misplaced. Christianity has its own unique place in the death and suffering it has meted out to humanity. Denying that is a favorite maneuver of the Christian religious extremist.
It seems you want to press your conspiracy about xtianity having some special place with the communist left. You offer nothing to support that but it appeals to your persecution complex and the martry syndrone. Oh poor you. You're so persecuted.No, Christianity has a special place of enmity from the Communist left. Islam, not so much. That's why radical Iran is an ally of both Russia and China. Christianity, particularly Catholicism is always in the crosshairs of every leftwing dictator, because we are their chief impediment.
Ironic you would cite violence towards little babies, since abortion is the sacrament of the atheist left.
Also, love how you had to go back 500 years to find people are who working against their Catholic teaching. Fallible humans have long hijacked religious rationale for their personal gain, as noted in your Hitler example. But I challenge you to find where Jesus taught that it was OK to kill little babies.
Whatever false Christians have done in the past millennia has paled to the 33 years in the last century when atheists murdered 150 million.
Every bill of currency anyone reading this in America has ever spent here has read, "IN GOD WE TRUST."
So has ever single coin.
It is America's national motto. Atheists can scream and lie but their shrill mendacity is as meaningless as it is destructive.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams, Second President and Founding Father
Giggle those down your throats, atheists...
Stalin = athiest regimeIt seems you want to press your conspiracy about xtianity having some special place with the communist left. You offer nothing to support that but it appeals to your persecution complex and the martry syndrone. Oh poor you. You're so persecuted.
I would expect you would be leading the Crusade to free the xtian masses from the commie dictators. Wait, where are those huddled masses of poor, persecuted xtians?
Love how you avoided any accounting for Hitler and how the Church had no problem with his assault on humanity.
Did you know the Church never excommunicated Hitler? Why spoil a good thing, eh?
Not ironic at all that you would hope to sidedstep the history of war, conquest and slavery imposed by those good Christians on entire populations. The savagery inflicted on the South American Indians is one of ruthless cruelty. It seems ''fallible (Christian) humans'' have two thousand years of fallibility that has inflicted real brutality on the planet. We can identify where Christianity literally held back humanity for 800 years during the the Dark Ages as the Church imposed torture and death on those who dared try to explore the arts and science.
Love how you excuse the slaughter of humanity perpetrated by Christianity with the weasel, ''hey, were not as bad as though atheists''.
Well, actually, you're worse.
First, you need to get past demanding Christianity is not as bad as commie sociopaths.
Religionism actually “wins” the death count.
Let's see how well the numbers balance down the list, shall we?:
There is no question about Pol Pot - Commie/Authoritarian, no doubt about it.<-- Not religious (and not disputed!)
The Monguls were not Christians or Moslems. If anything their beliefs were more like your Eskimo religion.<-- Religious!
Manchu were possibly believers in Confucianism, but they were just as ruthless as Christians or Moslems.<-- Religious!
Taiping Rebellion was either Buddhism or Confucianism related.<-- RELIGIOUS!
While the Annihilation of the American Indians, might be attributed to Christianity, it was in reality a clash of a "Stone Age" culture with one that was moving into the "Industrial Age". <-- NON RELIGIOUS!
Joe Stalin, Mao, a real Communist atheist.<-- Not religious and NOT DISPUTED!
The Mideast Slave trade was run by Moslems, and of course there were ideological perspectives involved as well as a mercantile motive.<-- RELIGIOUS!
The Atlantic Slave could clearly be laid on the hands of Christians.<-- RELIGIOUS!
Timur Lenk was a Turkish Mongul whose conquests rivaled Ghengis Khan. He was not a Christian or Moslem - merely killed lots of them!<-- Not religious, perhaps!
The Kaiser, Archduke Ferdinand, King George, Tsar, and the French were all Christian (but the Turks were Islamic). Although WWII was largely about power and control, Nazism was deeply rooted in christianity <-- Religious!
The Russian Civil War was the Whites (Christians) against the Reds (Atheistic Communist Bolsheviks). Flip a coin, but the Bolsheviks started it! The Czar instituted pogroms against the Jews, <-- Religious!
The Thuggee were a Hindhu cult.<--- Religious!
Rome falls to the pagan Barbarians!<-- "Pagans" had religious beliefs. So did Rome. --RELIGIOUS!
The Thirty Year War involved Christian Europe, again more about power than religion!<--Religious!
The Congo Free State included imperialism and colonialism attributed to a number of European Christian States. It wasn't entirely about religion, however.<-- Religious!
The Chinese Civil War involved atheistic Marxist under Mao, and Buddhists or Confucians under the Nationalist banner. <-- BOTH!
The Crusades<-- Religious!
The moslem rape of the Indian Subcontinent stands as one of the greatest genocides in human history. Some 80 million people may have been killed <== RELIGIOUS
The moslem conquest of Europe shortly after the death of the islams man-god: muhammud, is impossible to calculate. <-- RELIGIOUS!
The war on humanity wrought by the Christians against the South American Continent <-- RELIGIOUS!
The Dark Ages and the brutality wrought by Christians against the European Continent <-- RELIGIOUS!
Any fair tallying of the numbers will put your communist-Marxist ideology in the running for really "evil" category! HOWEVER Marxism, which defines a political ideology, was the prime motivator for Lenin, Stalin, etc.
What is the prime motivator for the Christian assault on humanity?
all scandinavian countries = atheistStalin = athiest regime
Hitler = atheist regime
Mao = atheist regime
Pol Pot = atheist regime.
150 million killed in a 33 year span.
Atheists killed religious people because they were religious.
More than all religions combined in the history of mankind.
All atheist regimes are horrible murderous hell holes that won't let people escape.
Stalin = athiest regime
Hitler = atheist regime
Mao = atheist regime
Pol Pot = atheist regime.
150 million killed in a 33 year span.
Atheists killed religious people because they were religious.
More than all religions combined in the history of mankind.
All atheist regimes are horrible murderous hell holes that won't let people escape.
There you go with the silly martyrdom complex again. If you look at history, you will see that religions have a special enmity for one another. Wars of conquest and aggression define the religious entities as they made every effort to slaughter those of the competing religion.No, Christianity has a special place of enmity from the Communist left. Islam, not so much. That's why radical Iran is an ally of both Russia and China. Christianity, particularly Catholicism is always in the crosshairs of every leftwing dictator, because we are their chief impediment.
Ironic that good Christians get abortions, also. Atheism has no sacraments so when you launch yourself into these saliva-slinging tirades aimed at those who reject your religious tales and fables, you might want to understand the terms you use.Ironic you would cite violence towards little babies, since abortion is the sacrament of the atheist left.
Love how you fail to take responsibility for the human carnage your religion has waged Jihad against. I can only remind you of the wars of aggression that have been fueled by the religious perceptions and which continue today. I note that within a historical context and continuing to the present day, among of the most terrible purveyors of conquest and death were the religious entities. The legacy of assault, rapine and murder is undeniable. The religious wars of aggression were largely about expansion of the religion and the material rewards of conquest. The religious perspectives were inclusive of their behavior, be it for power or destruction or material gains, No one can simply dismiss any and all religious connotation to these acts, I incorporate them and do so fairly. These religious cultures had religion and it didn't stop them from their conquests, and indeed it motivated them.Also, love how you had to go back 500 years to find people are who working against their Catholic teaching. Fallible humans have long hijacked religious rationale for their personal gain, as noted in your Hitler example. But I challenge you to find where Jesus taught that it was OK to kill little babies.
Whatever false Christians have done in the past millennia has paled to the 33 years in the last century when atheists murdered 150 million.
We're talking about the governments being atheists, but even so, in these countries you mention, not even the majority are atheist.all scandinavian countries = atheist
all Europe = atheist
Canada = atheist
All those governments are atheistWe're talking about the governments being atheists, but even so, in these countries you mention, not even the majority are atheist.
Nope. There are only five officially atheist countries. I've named them. Scandinavian countries aren't part of that. Neither is CanadaAll those governments are atheist
Show me where those governments rule according to a religion.Nope. There are only five officially atheist countries. I've named them. Scandinavian countries aren't part of that. Neither is Canada
No, Christianity has a special place of enmity from the Communist left. Islam, not so much. That's why radical Iran is an ally of both Russia and China. Christianity, particularly Catholicism is always in the crosshairs of every leftwing dictator, because we are their chief impediment.
Ironic you would cite violence towards little babies, since abortion is the sacrament of the atheist left.
Also, love how you had to go back 500 years to find people are who working against their Catholic teaching. Fallible humans have long hijacked religious rationale for their personal gain, as noted in your Hitler example. But I challenge you to find where Jesus taught that it was OK to kill little babies.
Whatever false Christians have done in the past millennia has paled to the 33 years in the last century when atheists murdered 150 million.
