It's still going up boys and girls

[Sunsettommy]

Everyone who has not been played for fools by the fossil fuel companies knows that carbon emissions are responsible for climate change and that those emissions must be slowed to prevent catastrophe.

How the oil industry has spent billions to control the climate change conversation

Activists say Democratic climate proposals won’t be able to pass until lawmakers put a stop to oil companies trying to rebrand themselves

www.theguardian.com

The Climate Denial Machine: How the Fossil Fuel Industry Blocks Climate Action.

Fossil fuel interests have spent millions funding climate change denial — allowing them to protect dirty energy while remaining out of the public eye.

www.climaterealityproject.org

The usual lies gets thrown on about "fossil fuels" companies who didn't hide their position from day one. It is an old accusation that ran out of steam a few years ago.

You have new dumb irrelevant lies to offer?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Surely you have noticed the numbers of posters here arguing that localized regions in the US are experiencing cold weather and thus global warming must be false. Are you one of them?

Yeah, global warming is definitely false. I wish you leftist global warming types would focus on where the problem REALLY is instead of all this fake stuff!! Overpopulation, the hockey-stick increase from 1 billion to more than 7 billion in a couple hundred years.

You chose the wrong, wrong cause if you want to Save the Earth.

Cross over to fighting overpopulation. That might actually help.

Fighting overpopulation IS a worthy cause with many, many benefits, one of which would be a reduction in GHG production. But I think it would be far easier to reduce our CO2 output than to lower our population. Besides, you are peddling a false dichotomy: Nothing prevents us from working on both problems simultaneously.

Ooooh false dichotomy such uberelitist edumacation on display here.

I see no point in attempting to discuss anything with you. Your posts are valueless. Buh-bye

Many here are laughing at your insane infatuation over the bogeyman molecule that doesn't have demonstrated warm forcing increase danger to the planet. Heck you have no idea what the fuck AGW really is since even most warmists scientists knows that CO2 (the bogeyman) itself doesn't generate dangerous warming possibilities, it is the POSITIVE feedback that is postulated to do that, and that has never been showing up as projected from 20 years ago.

Diagram showing observed linear decadal temperature change at surface, 300 hPa and 200 hPa, between 20oN and 20oS, since January 1979. Data source: HadAT and HadCRUT4. Click here to compare with modelled altitudinal temperature change pattern for doubling atmospheric CO2. Last month included in analysis: December 2012. Last diagram update: 4 May 2013.

LINK

That is why you are getting mocked here.

It is warming, oh my god!

 

[Sunsettommy]

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We are in an interglacial cycle and our present temperature is still below the peak temperature of previous interglacial cycles.

It is still below the peak of THIS interglacial period too.

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

Everyone who has not been played for fools by the fossil fuel companies knows that carbon emissions are responsible for climate change and that those emissions must be slowed to prevent catastrophe.

How the oil industry has spent billions to control the climate change conversation

Activists say Democratic climate proposals won’t be able to pass until lawmakers put a stop to oil companies trying to rebrand themselves

www.theguardian.com

The Climate Denial Machine: How the Fossil Fuel Industry Blocks Climate Action.

Fossil fuel interests have spent millions funding climate change denial — allowing them to protect dirty energy while remaining out of the public eye.

www.climaterealityproject.org

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FAKE NEWS ALERT!!!

Really? Fake? Then you must have the REAL news. What does IT say?

Nothing at all.

 

[Batcat]

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Oh no Auntie Em, Auntie Em!!! As I am running away from the melty glaciers and the zombie virus attackers I am getting warmer and warmer oh Auntie Em, Auntie Em!!!

Surely you have noticed the numbers of posters here arguing that localized regions in the US are experiencing cold weather and thus global warming must be false. Are you one of them?

Yes, I have noticed that some people confuse local weather with global climate change.

I have also noticed that over the years the Global Warming advocates have made a lot of predictions which were laughable. Snow was supposed to be a rare event today, costal cities would be flooding and there would be hardly any ice left at the North Pole.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. At a minimum they should stop crying. “Wolf.”

Environmental apocalypse predictions have failed for half a century - Washington Examiner

Climate change activism is warming up this week with climate strikes, a U.N. summit, plus extra media coverage. Naturally, the apocalyptic rhetoric is warming up, too. To take only two examples among many: “2020 could be your last chance to stop an apocalypse,” warned a Los Angeles Times...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute

Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...

cei.org

 

[Sunsettommy]

No warming for 5 years and 10 months:

Somehow for that length of time the Bogeyman molecule goes on vacation, even when their numbers keeping adding in the atmosphere....

 

[Crick]

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Oh no Auntie Em, Auntie Em!!! As I am running away from the melty glaciers and the zombie virus attackers I am getting warmer and warmer oh Auntie Em, Auntie Em!!!

Surely you have noticed the numbers of posters here arguing that localized regions in the US are experiencing cold weather and thus global warming must be false. Are you one of them?

Yes, I have noticed that some people confuse local weather with global climate change.

I have also noticed that over the years the Global Warming advocates have made a lot of predictions which were laughable. Snow was supposed to be a rare event today, costal cities would be flooding and there would be hardly any ice left at the North Pole.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. At a minimum they should stop crying. “Wolf.”

Environmental apocalypse predictions have failed for half a century - Washington Examiner

Climate change activism is warming up this week with climate strikes, a U.N. summit, plus extra media coverage. Naturally, the apocalyptic rhetoric is warming up, too. To take only two examples among many: “2020 could be your last chance to stop an apocalypse,” warned a Los Angeles Times...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute

Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...

cei.org

I hate to point this out to you, but cities are flooding and there is very little ice left at the North Pole on a summer's day. We are not crying "wolf", we are attempting to convince the last few holdouts that AGW is a valid description of the behavior of our climate and represents a serious threat to humanity's well being over the next century.

 

[Crick]

Fighting overpopulation IS a worthy cause with many, many benefits, one of which would be a reduction in GHG production. But I think it would be far easier to reduce our CO2 output than to lower our population. Besides, you are peddling a false dichotomy: Nothing prevents us from working on both problems simultaneously.

I'm not "peddling a false dichotomy" --- I'm saying your global warming nonsense is all bogus.

But overpopulation is wow, is it ever not bogus!!

I understand that it is a problem for white leftists to deal with, since whites are depopulating rapidly, but the blacks and browns and yellows are grossly overpopulating --- and migrating as fast as they can to replace us, since we're depopulating. But it doesn't sound too leftie to say, all you colored people should stop reproducing, like us! Not tactful.

I think it could be dealt with ------ China did, after all, and people continue to have small families there, mostly males, which continues to be a drag on their overpopulation. I just looked up China again: their population is fully five times that of the U.S.A.

Ah well, I suppose you are right, it's hopeless. We'll have to let the Reverend Malthus solve it. And he will.

I did not use the term "peddling", but to suggest that we can not work on BOTH overpopulation and global warming at the same time is a false dichotomy. And it would be VERY tactless to suggest "colored people" should stop reproducing. It is, in fact, pure racism. But you knew that, didn't you.

 

[Crick]

Interesting that the graph shot up shortly after MMGW guru Al Gore lost the election. I wonder if he is still pulling the strings.

Unlikely, since he never did.

 

[Crick]

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No one paid attention to the anomalies in the election. Why is this different?

There were no anomalies in the election to which attention may be paid, unless you were gullible enough to buy into the blatant lies of Trump and his minions in THEIR attempt to steal the election. What you are commenting on is a graph of global temperature histories compiled by several different organizations. What is notable is how closely they all align. The point is to suggest that those insisting global warming is a complete charade and the world is NOT getting warmer do not have a leg to stand on.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I hate to point this out to you, but cities are flooding

Which ones?

Did you ever post how AGW is falsifiable?

 

[Crick]

I hate to point this out to you, but cities are flooding

Which ones?

Did you ever post how AGW is falsifiable?

Miami is flooding. I did post a lengthy comment on how it could be falsified, but that was many months ago. On a short list, you could disprove the greenhouse effect by showing that CO2 doesn't absorb IR. You could prove that the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has not risen or that the additional CO2 is not the result of fossil fuel combustion. You could prove that combusting fossil fuels doesn't produce CO2. You could show that satellite IR emission data are incorrect or that solar irradiance is responsible for all the observed warming. You could find that all the observed warming is due to poor thermometer placement or a grand conspiracy. Sadly, all of these have been tried and none of them have succeeded. I guess you're stuck. Todd, you're too smart to buy into some of these things. AGW is valid.

 

[Lastamender]

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No one paid attention to the anomalies in the election. Why is this different?

There were no anomalies in the election to which attention may be paid, unless you were gullible enough to buy into the blatant lies of Trump and his minions in THEIR attempt to steal the election. What you are commenting on is a graph of global temperature histories compiled by several different organizations. What is notable is how closely they all align. The point is to suggest that those insisting global warming is a complete charade and the world is NOT getting warmer do not have a leg to stand on.

Plenty of anomalies worth paying attention.

Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020

A Quantitative Analysis of Decisive Vote Updates in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia on and after Election Night

votepatternanalysis.substack.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I hate to point this out to you, but cities are flooding

Which ones?

Did you ever post how AGW is falsifiable?

Miami is flooding. I did post a lengthy comment on how it could be falsified, but that was many months ago. On a short list, you could disprove the greenhouse effect by showing that CO2 doesn't absorb IR. You could prove that the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has not risen or that the additional CO2 is not the result of fossil fuel combustion. You could prove that combusting fossil fuels doesn't produce CO2. You could show that satellite IR emission data are incorrect or that solar irradiance is responsible for all the observed warming. You could find that all the observed warming is due to poor thermometer placement or a grand conspiracy. Sadly, all of these have been tried and none of them have succeeded. I guess you're stuck. Todd, you're too smart to buy into some of these things. AGW is valid.

Miami is flooding.

That's awful!!!

How much is because of AGW and how much is because of pumping/subsidence?

On a short list,

I don't see too much/not enough precipitation.
Are both evidence of AGW?

You could show that satellite IR emission data are incorrect

Or that data from the 1930s (and earlier) was wrong.....
oh, wait, changing old data is what warmers do.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I care and we should all care. Not because warming is any kind of threat but that it will continue to be used to perpetuate the threat from democrats destroying the economy. All to gain Marxist control.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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[RoshawnMarkwees]

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And this goes all the way back to the beginning of the earth in 1880!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We must spend $78 trillion which may or may not lower CO2 which lowering may or may not have any effect on temperature, weather or climate!

Who's with me?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We must spend $78 trillion which may or may not lower CO2 which lowering may or may not have any effect on temperature, weather or climate!

Who's with me?

I'm fully behind AOC!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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How many trillions do we need to spend to "flatten the curve"?

Less than we will spend NOT flattening the curve. Did you miss that point Todd?

Where's you evidence that anything you propose doing will have any effect?

Evidence?! Ha! Who needs evidence when we have CONCENSUS???