It Looks Like Health Insurance, but It’s Not. ‘Just Trust God,’ Buyers Are Told.

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Wow! This seems like a bit of a scam---as always..let the buyer beware..and you get what you pay for:

It Looks Like Health Insurance, but It’s Not. ‘Just Trust God,’ Buyers Are Told.


....Instead, they pay about $530 a month through a Christian health care sharing organization to pay members’ medical bills. But the group capped payments for members at $250,000, almost certainly far less than the final tally of Blake’s mounting medical bills.

More than one million Americans, struggling to cope with the rising cost of health insurance, have joined such groups, attracted by prices that are far lower than the premiums for policies that must meet strict requirements, like guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions, established by the Affordable Care Act. The groups say they permit people of a common religious or ethical belief to share medical costs, and many were grandfathered in under the federal health care law mainly through a religious exemption.

These Christian nonprofit groups offer far lower rates because they are not classified as insurance and are under no legal obligation to pay medical claims. They generally decline to cover people with pre-existing illnesses. They can set limits on how much their members will pay, and they can legally refuse to cover treatments for specialties like mental health.
“Nothing is guaranteed,” said Dr. Carolyn McClanahan, a physician who is also a financial planner in Jacksonville, Fla. “You have to depend on the largess of the program.”
The main requirement for membership is adherence to a Christian lifestyle. And the alternative sharing plans keep flourishing, especially now that the Trump administration has relaxed rules to permit alternatives to the A.C.A. that don’t provide such generous coverage.

Because the groups are not technically considered insurance, they operate with no government oversight. “Regulators haven’t been willing to assert any control or regulatory authority over these plans,” said Katie Keith, who serves as a consumer representative to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and teaches health law at Georgetown University. “They feel their hands are tied. At the end of the day, it’s not insurance.”

Families who have joined the groups recount winding up with medical bills not covered by the ministries, with no legal way to appeal decisions to reject coverage for care. Some groups ask their members to push hospitals and doctors to write off their bills rather than use members’ money to pay their expenses.

“These plans offer a false sense of security,” said Jenny Chumbley Hogue, who runs an insurance agency in the north Dallas area of Texas. She refuses to offer them to her clients.
 
Wow! This seems like a bit of a scam---as always..let the buyer beware..and you get what you pay for:

It Looks Like Health Insurance, but It’s Not. ‘Just Trust God,’ Buyers Are Told.


....Instead, they pay about $530 a month through a Christian health care sharing organization to pay members’ medical bills. But the group capped payments for members at $250,000, almost certainly far less than the final tally of Blake’s mounting medical bills.

More than one million Americans, struggling to cope with the rising cost of health insurance, have joined such groups, attracted by prices that are far lower than the premiums for policies that must meet strict requirements, like guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions, established by the Affordable Care Act. The groups say they permit people of a common religious or ethical belief to share medical costs, and many were grandfathered in under the federal health care law mainly through a religious exemption.

These Christian nonprofit groups offer far lower rates because they are not classified as insurance and are under no legal obligation to pay medical claims. They generally decline to cover people with pre-existing illnesses. They can set limits on how much their members will pay, and they can legally refuse to cover treatments for specialties like mental health.
“Nothing is guaranteed,” said Dr. Carolyn McClanahan, a physician who is also a financial planner in Jacksonville, Fla. “You have to depend on the largess of the program.”
The main requirement for membership is adherence to a Christian lifestyle. And the alternative sharing plans keep flourishing, especially now that the Trump administration has relaxed rules to permit alternatives to the A.C.A. that don’t provide such generous coverage.

Because the groups are not technically considered insurance, they operate with no government oversight. “Regulators haven’t been willing to assert any control or regulatory authority over these plans,” said Katie Keith, who serves as a consumer representative to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and teaches health law at Georgetown University. “They feel their hands are tied. At the end of the day, it’s not insurance.”

Families who have joined the groups recount winding up with medical bills not covered by the ministries, with no legal way to appeal decisions to reject coverage for care. Some groups ask their members to push hospitals and doctors to write off their bills rather than use members’ money to pay their expenses.

“These plans offer a false sense of security,” said Jenny Chumbley Hogue, who runs an insurance agency in the north Dallas area of Texas. She refuses to offer them to her clients.

Kind of dumb. She refuses to offer them to her clients?

Yeah, because they don't pay commissions to insurance brokers. What a shock..... shocking I say.

That said, what exactly is the complaint? Christians spending their own money on each other. Why do you pagans care? What business is it of yours?

And I don't understand how you pagans can scream and cry about insurance companies, and how evil they are, and then turn around and demand Christians not have a cost sharing program, and force them into insurance companies.

How does that work? Left-winger "This is terrible and awful, and how dare you find an alternative to these terrible awful companies!"
 
Wow! This seems like a bit of a scam---as always..let the buyer beware..and you get what you pay for:

It Looks Like Health Insurance, but It’s Not. ‘Just Trust God,’ Buyers Are Told.


....Instead, they pay about $530 a month through a Christian health care sharing organization to pay members’ medical bills. But the group capped payments for members at $250,000, almost certainly far less than the final tally of Blake’s mounting medical bills.

More than one million Americans, struggling to cope with the rising cost of health insurance, have joined such groups, attracted by prices that are far lower than the premiums for policies that must meet strict requirements, like guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions, established by the Affordable Care Act. The groups say they permit people of a common religious or ethical belief to share medical costs, and many were grandfathered in under the federal health care law mainly through a religious exemption.

These Christian nonprofit groups offer far lower rates because they are not classified as insurance and are under no legal obligation to pay medical claims. They generally decline to cover people with pre-existing illnesses. They can set limits on how much their members will pay, and they can legally refuse to cover treatments for specialties like mental health.
“Nothing is guaranteed,” said Dr. Carolyn McClanahan, a physician who is also a financial planner in Jacksonville, Fla. “You have to depend on the largess of the program.”
The main requirement for membership is adherence to a Christian lifestyle. And the alternative sharing plans keep flourishing, especially now that the Trump administration has relaxed rules to permit alternatives to the A.C.A. that don’t provide such generous coverage.

Because the groups are not technically considered insurance, they operate with no government oversight. “Regulators haven’t been willing to assert any control or regulatory authority over these plans,” said Katie Keith, who serves as a consumer representative to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and teaches health law at Georgetown University. “They feel their hands are tied. At the end of the day, it’s not insurance.”

Families who have joined the groups recount winding up with medical bills not covered by the ministries, with no legal way to appeal decisions to reject coverage for care. Some groups ask their members to push hospitals and doctors to write off their bills rather than use members’ money to pay their expenses.

“These plans offer a false sense of security,” said Jenny Chumbley Hogue, who runs an insurance agency in the north Dallas area of Texas. She refuses to offer them to her clients.

Kind of dumb. She refuses to offer them to her clients?

Yeah, because they don't pay commissions to insurance brokers. What a shock..... shocking I say.

That said, what exactly is the complaint? Christians spending their own money on each other. Why do you pagans care? What business is it of yours?

And I don't understand how you pagans can scream and cry about insurance companies, and how evil they are, and then turn around and demand Christians not have a cost sharing program, and force them into insurance companies.

How does that work? Left-winger "This is terrible and awful, and how dare you find an alternative to these terrible awful companies!"
Dunno about the Andy part..but you got the delusion part down pat!

Lessee..where shall I start..perhaps where you assume that I'm a pagan...I'm guessing the classic meaning and not the motorcycle club? You do know what they say about assumptions, right?

Speaking of assumptions--you assume that it is the lack of commissions that is the driving force? Not that the service is inferior to others..or that there is no obligation to perform the service contracted for...or that preexisting conditions are not covered? You don't think that the total lack of accountability is an issue? The complete lack of any legal recourse for those who find that they have been lied to?

Do you believe that mealy-mouthed hiding behind small print is appropriate in a 'Christian' faith-based organization? Do you think that there should be an expectation of a moral and ethical high ground?

Perhaps you have no problem that these God-fearing people are being stuck with medical costs rising into the hundreds of thousands of dollars? When they had every reason to believe that they were covered..by their brothers and sisters in Christ?

At the end of the day..no one is saying that faith-based cost sharing programs should be made illegal..just that there should be some..dare I say it..secular oversight---so that the kind and caring people who are going out of their way to rip off the faithful have something to worry about..besides Eternity in Hell!
 

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