It Is OFFICIAL: Pelosi / 'Shutdown' Party Reject Deal - They Own The Shutdown!

[busybee01]

what the left does then is win the senate followed by dancing on the grave of the GOP.

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

Right.
I don't give a shit.
Those posting here are not the powers that be.
Nancy doesn't give a shit either. She just pays lip service to federal workers. If she actually gave a shit, she would set aside her bitter partisanship and negotiate. She is even willing to throw DACA under the bus to resist Trump.

Another Trump moron who has no clue what he is talking about.

 

[depotoo]

What site is that? And no, even in the article further down shows, no it was not tunnels. Did some dig under the fence? Yes. Did they build tunnels? No. There is even border patrol footage showing them sliding under the fence, and climbing thru it. There is no concrete poured under the fence there.

And while they were distracting border patrol with this large group, others were moving drugs in, fortunately part of it was stopped-
Another migrant group crosses NM border » Albuquerque Journal
The Border Patrol is now saying that criminals are using some of these mass crossings to distract agents as drug mules move contraband across the border.

They say that is what occurred early Wednesday morning – just after midnight – when Border Patrol agents encountered 247 migrants.

The Border Patrol released more information about that group Friday, saying that the crossing had been timed to serve as a distraction so illegal drugs could be moved across the border just west of Antelope Wells.


With the help of Customs and Border Protection air support, Border Patrol agents seized 265 pounds of marijuana and arrested two suspected “drug mules.”

“Criminal organizations continue to exploit the loopholes in immigration law to distract agents with large groups of smuggled aliens in an attempt to move their contraband through a different area,” according to the statement issued by the Border Patrol’s El Paso sector, which includes all of New Mexico.

Nearly 400 migrants were apprehended last week in Arizona after crossing the border using 7 TUNNELS! They`ll be laughing at our big beautiful communist wall.
376 migrants, including 179 kids, used 7 tunnels to get under the US border fence in Arizona

 

[jc456]

by the way, the president presented a plan for the senate to vote on. Now we will see who votes for Americans or illegals

 

[busybee01]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government

Trump rejected it

Pelosi wants to appear as if she is in complete control now, and that she is now the president of this nation with her condescending arrogant bullcrap, but she will find out just how weak she and her cohorts are.

They are counting on Mueller to come through on their hoping that their blackmail scheme will finally work it's magic on Trump, but a let down is coming again and again to them, but they don't care because it's get Trump with them no matter what.

The radicals are actually after the Christian's Trump has put in office with him, and that has been proven over time also.

An America hostile to Christian inclusion is no America anyone should want to live in or promote into the future, but here we are watching the final push for this ousting of Christianity from our government... Trump and Pence are caught in the political cross hairs of these radicals trying to take them out of office.

Wake up America.

You are the one who needs to wake up. I am a Christian and any Christian who supports Trump is a fake Christian. It is Trump who is attempting blackmail. Most of the government that is shut down has nothing to do with border security.

Demanding Compromise on gov't issues is part of the Constitution.........The Power of the Purse is part of that system..........Refusing to compromise is the problem. Call it what you like..........but we've already spent and lost more money than requested which is stupidity in motion. Fund better security.......better yet go find the appropriated funds from 2006 that were squandered.............They only spent 2.3 billion on the wall for 10 years........Broken promises..........all for political gain.

improving and adding border walls for CBP that makes their job easier makes sense..............unless you don't want or border secure.....which is exactly what this fight is about.

That is not what this fight is about. This fight is about Trump pleasing his base and telling the other 60% or so people in this country to go to hell.

 

[jc456]

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

Right.
I don't give a shit.
Those posting here are not the powers that be.
Nancy doesn't give a shit either. She just pays lip service to federal workers. If she actually gave a shit, she would set aside her bitter partisanship and negotiate. She is even willing to throw DACA under the bus to resist Trump.

Another Trump moron who has no clue what he is talking about.

How so?

 

[jc456]

The man that started this shit owns this shit. There is nothing Trump can do that will change that.

If think this nation is so shallow that it can't see the bigger picture playing out in it all, then you are one ignorant human being.

I see better than you because you somehow think the American people are immigrant hating reactionaries.

No, the people are more like Demon-crat hating reactionaries now, and all because they know that the demon-crats are using the border as a political weapon to try and destroy America as it stands or as it has stood in which worked for all American's for many years looking back. The Demon-crats are power horders who want to retain or gain power off the backs of those who will suffer greatly due their radical views on life (in this country), for which they want for themselves now.

Agree, president is showing again the colors of the swamp.

BTW, trump may own the shutdown, the dems own the hate on Americans

Americans support the Democrat plan not the Trump plan.

 

[jc456]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government

Trump rejected it

Pelosi wants to appear as if she is in complete control now, and that she is now the president of this nation with her condescending arrogant bullcrap, but she will find out just how weak she and her cohorts are.

They are counting on Mueller to come through on their hoping that their blackmail scheme will finally work it's magic on Trump, but a let down is coming again and again to them, but they don't care because it's get Trump with them no matter what.

The radicals are actually after the Christian's Trump has put in office with him, and that has been proven over time also.

An America hostile to Christian inclusion is no America anyone should want to live in or promote into the future, but here we are watching the final push for this ousting of Christianity from our government... Trump and Pence are caught in the political cross hairs of these radicals trying to take them out of office.

Wake up America.

You are the one who needs to wake up. I am a Christian and any Christian who supports Trump is a fake Christian. It is Trump who is attempting blackmail. Most of the government that is shut down has nothing to do with border security.

Demanding Compromise on gov't issues is part of the Constitution.........The Power of the Purse is part of that system..........Refusing to compromise is the problem. Call it what you like..........but we've already spent and lost more money than requested which is stupidity in motion. Fund better security.......better yet go find the appropriated funds from 2006 that were squandered.............They only spent 2.3 billion on the wall for 10 years........Broken promises..........all for political gain.

improving and adding border walls for CBP that makes their job easier makes sense..............unless you don't want or border secure.....which is exactly what this fight is about.

That is not what this fight is about. This fight is about Trump pleasing his base and telling the other 60% or so people in this country to go to hell.

Sad

 

[eagle1462010]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government

Trump rejected it

Pelosi wants to appear as if she is in complete control now, and that she is now the president of this nation with her condescending arrogant bullcrap, but she will find out just how weak she and her cohorts are.

They are counting on Mueller to come through on their hoping that their blackmail scheme will finally work it's magic on Trump, but a let down is coming again and again to them, but they don't care because it's get Trump with them no matter what.

The radicals are actually after the Christian's Trump has put in office with him, and that has been proven over time also.

An America hostile to Christian inclusion is no America anyone should want to live in or promote into the future, but here we are watching the final push for this ousting of Christianity from our government... Trump and Pence are caught in the political cross hairs of these radicals trying to take them out of office.

Wake up America.

You are the one who needs to wake up. I am a Christian and any Christian who supports Trump is a fake Christian. It is Trump who is attempting blackmail. Most of the government that is shut down has nothing to do with border security.

Demanding Compromise on gov't issues is part of the Constitution.........The Power of the Purse is part of that system..........Refusing to compromise is the problem. Call it what you like..........but we've already spent and lost more money than requested which is stupidity in motion. Fund better security.......better yet go find the appropriated funds from 2006 that were squandered.............They only spent 2.3 billion on the wall for 10 years........Broken promises..........all for political gain.

improving and adding border walls for CBP that makes their job easier makes sense..............unless you don't want or border secure.....which is exactly what this fight is about.

That is not what this fight is about. This fight is about Trump pleasing his base and telling the other 60% or so people in this country to go to hell.

LOL.

60% are with you...........LOL

Most of Americans want the border secured.......have wanted it for decades..........hell even Billy Boy wanted it way back when........and each time they failed to do anything about it.........

Add E-Verify to the 1986...........and your side is done.............LOL

 

[BookShaka]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

No. On 12/11 Trump said he was responsible

Oh so now you believe him? How convenient... I thought he was a pathological liar and you couldn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth? But in this he’s telling the 100% truth, eh? LMFAO you idiots get dumber by the second.

 

[eagle1462010]

Walls Work

What’s next you might ask? When combined with the funds provided in FY 2017 and FY 2018, if funded at $5B in FY 2019 DHS expects to construct more than 330 miles of border wall in the U.S. Border Patrol’s highest priority locations across the Southwest border.

DHS is positioned to construct 215 miles of Border Patrol’s highest priority border wall miles including:

• ~5 miles in San Diego Sector in California
• ~14 miles in El Centro Sector in California
• ~27 miles in Yuma Sector in Arizona
• ~9 miles in El Paso Sector in New Mexico
• ~55 miles in Laredo Sector in Texas
• ~104 miles in Rio Grande Valley Sector in Texas

The Bottom Line: Walls Work. When it comes to stopping drugs and illegal aliens from crossing our borders, border walls have proven to be extremely effective. Border security relies on a combination of border infrastructure, technology, personnel and partnerships with law enforcement at the state, local, tribal, and federal level. For example, when we installed a border wall in the Yuma Sector, we have seen border apprehensions decrease by 90 percent. In San Diego, we saw on Sunday that dilapidated, decades-old barriers are not sufficient for today’s threat and need to be removed so new – up to 30 foot wall sections can be completed.

 

[BookShaka]

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

Emotion is always the comeback of the left.................Facts do not matter...............the left is worried a better wall will impede the flow of their new voters........why they are fighting so hard for .011% of a years budget.

Riddle me this............if we built the wall like Israel.......just the physical wall..............concrete with observation towers..........how much would if cost us at 3 million a mile for the barrier................6 Billion dollars.............for 2000 miles.

This is no longer about a wall, if it ever was, it's about Trump taking the government hostage. He cannot be allowed to get a damned thing this way. He has no respect for the process put forth in the constitution so he is attempting to get what he wants by other means. This is how countries slip away from democracy into despotism. Democrats are going to fight the battle that never should have happened had republicans not somehow been tricked into wanting an emperor.

Your self-portrait:

 

[petro]

Doubtful...........he can deport them NOW............remove them from the equation........You underestimate what the people of this country think about this..........Why your side talks tough on it during elections.

My side is the side of decency, there is no wide support for arbitrarily mass deporting "dreamers".

Your war on tiny humans and minorities/poor . suffering/dying in your political ghettos betrays all decency standards, I guess you prefer to be distracted or detracting from reality..
.

Quit acting like you care about the unfortunate. You see these stories of the hardship caused by the shutdown the same as the rest of us and do not give a shit.

Right.
I don't give a shit.
Those posting here are not the powers that be.
Nancy doesn't give a shit either. She just pays lip service to federal workers. If she actually gave a shit, she would set aside her bitter partisanship and negotiate. She is even willing to throw DACA under the bus to resist Trump.

Another Trump moron who has no clue what he is talking about.

Another NPC troll that can't reply to the content of the post and hurls useless insults.

 

[easyt65]

And there are so many other steps we all agree on that will reduce the numbers of illegals coming here but trump won’t do any of them unless we give him $5 billion.

He doesn’t want to be seen as losing. He said he was a tough negotiator and this was a main campaign promise. This is all about trump. $5 billion was just a low ball number he through out. He wants the trump wall. Ego. Narcissistic

Obama's own hand-picked border expert and former chief of the Border Pattol stated:

1. President Trump is Right

2. 'Walls ABSOLUTELY .WORK'

3. Walls work & they are NOT 'immoral' ... which is why we already have sections of wall up and why the Democrats - to include Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer - voted for it and why Pelosi is not demanding those existing 'immoral' walls be torn down.

4. There is NO REASON NOT to build / use a wall, augmented by other forms of security

He debunked / bashed every reason, excuse, and justifications democrats have - and snowflakes parrot - for not building the wall.

NANCY Pelosi just confirmed to the world that she is a FAILED Speaker of The House, a vile Party-1st Liberal extremist whose only goal is to damage the President's chances of re-election in 2020, and that she has no problem standing with violent illegals / human traffickers thieves / rapists / cop killers and other Democrats who are illegally operating fedetal law-violating Sanctuary cities that provide them safe haven to do so!

NANCY PELOSI AND THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THIS SHUTDOWN!

 

[BookShaka]

Why do you refuse to accept that government policy cannot be made under duress? If Trump's border security proposals are so good let him make them through the normal process instead of this destructive hostage crisis.

Knock off the hostage bullshit. The process is working exactly as designed.
Trump has attempted to negotiate and has every right to refuse disaggreable bills. Much like Obama did many times.

Not supposed to be this way. Republicans have been steadily expanding executive power since Nixon and then cry like little bitches when democrats use those expanded powers for their own ends.

You mean President Executive Action?View attachment 241108

Trump is actually trying to cut a deal and get an actual budget. Something that never happened under Obama. Just non stop continuing resolutions.

Trump can get nothing acting like this. Seriously he has cut his own throat so deeply he could not sell water if congress was on fire.

No one gets anything as long as Pelosi refuses to negotiate.

Yeah, this obviously hasn’t sunk in for occupied yet. He/she obviously needs to consult the media before making a decision about anything. His/her posts are evidence enough of that.

 

[jc456]

And there are so many other steps we all agree on that will reduce the numbers of illegals coming here but trump won’t do any of them unless we give him $5 billion.

He doesn’t want to be seen as losing. He said he was a tough negotiator and this was a main campaign promise. This is all about trump. $5 billion was just a low ball number he through out. He wants the trump wall. Ego. Narcissistic

Obama's own hand-picked border expert and former chief of the Border Pattol stated:

1. President Trump is Right

2. 'Walls ABSOLUTELY .WORK'

3. Walls work & they are NOT 'immoral' ... which is why we already have sections of wall up and why the Democrats - to include Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer - voted for it and why Pelosi is not demanding those existing 'immoral' walls be torn down.

4. There is NO REASON NOT to build / use a wall, augmented by other forms of security

He debunked / bashed every reason, excuse, and justifications democrats have - and snowflakes parrot - for not building the wall.

NANCY Pelosi just confirmed to the world that she is a FAILED Speaker of The House, a vile Party-1st Liberal extremist whose only goal is to damage the President's chances of re-election in 2020, and that she has no problem standing with violent illegals / human traffickers thieves / rapists / cop killers and other Democrats who are illegally operating fedetal law-violating Sanctuary cities that provide them safe haven to do so!

NANCY PELOSI AND THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THIS SHUTDOWN!

He’s been on most talk radio shows saying exactly that

 

[jc456]

Knock off the hostage bullshit. The process is working exactly as designed.
Trump has attempted to negotiate and has every right to refuse disaggreable bills. Much like Obama did many times.

Not supposed to be this way. Republicans have been steadily expanding executive power since Nixon and then cry like little bitches when democrats use those expanded powers for their own ends.

You mean President Executive Action?View attachment 241108

Trump is actually trying to cut a deal and get an actual budget. Something that never happened under Obama. Just non stop continuing resolutions.

Trump can get nothing acting like this. Seriously he has cut his own throat so deeply he could not sell water if congress was on fire.

No one gets anything as long as Pelosi refuses to negotiate.

Yeah, this obviously hasn’t sunk in for occupied yet. He/she obviously needs to consult the media before making a decision about anything. His/her posts are evidence enough of that.

Get his/her talking points

 

[jc456]

by the way, the president presented a plan for the senate to vote on. Now we will see who votes for Americans or illegals

Additionally, the failure to accept the plan also shows DACA really isn’t a leftist position

 

[BookShaka]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

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President Trump proves the Democrats have no intention of compromising. Dem's own the shutdown 100%. You Dem idiots prepare to get reamed in the SOTU address.

Trump is committing political suicide and you people are cheering him on. From this moment on he is the most powerless president of our lifetimes.

How is Trump committing political suicide?

They heard some liberal commentator saying that I’m sure and parroted it here.

 

[BookShaka]

The next move is a public proposal by the Democrats otherwise they are sitting on the issue.

They have made their proposal clear. Open the government and then we will talk. Americans overwhelmingly agree with that.

You’re a true idiot if you think the Dems will “talk” once the government reopens.

 

[candycorn]

The President just offered Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats DACA ... AGAIN ... and they rejected the deal.

The President has made every effort, offered them what they claim to want, but Pelosi j Iyeah st demonstrated she is he'll-bent on keeping the government shutdown until the Prresident resigns or gives in to her 'hostsge demands' of opening up the govt in return for NOTHING.

THE DEMOCRATS NOW OFFICIALLY OWN THE SHUTDOWN!

"President Donald Trump on Saturday proposed a broad immigration deal to end the government shutdown, though Democratic leaders quickly declared his overture dead on arrival."

Democrats reject Trump’s bid to negotiate on immigration for his wall

.

No. On 12/11 Trump said he was responsible

Oh so now you believe him? How convenient... I thought he was a pathological liar and you couldn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth? But in this he’s telling the 100% truth, eh? LMFAO you idiots get dumber by the second.

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So your argument is that your messiah is a liar and one is a fool to believe him?