rylah
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INITIAL QUESTION: in case there's a building with militants about whom there's information of readiness to attack your side,and before/after the attack, they put babies at the windows. Who's responsible for their death if they get killed?
SUB EMPHASIS: Effectiveness of Tactics
RE: Israeli-Arab war - tactics, intent and morality
⁜→ et al,
BLUF: At the end of the day, the objective is to "Break the Spirit and Will of the Arab Palestinians" such that they no longer want to conduct Hostile Operations as an Opposing Force (OPFOR).
(COMMENT)
✪ As a consequence of employing (100%) successful operations means "peace" becomes the "ground truth."
That is an ideal objective and outcome. In the case of the Arab - Israeli Conflict, we will not (if ever) see that outcome in my lifetime. You would have to totally eliminate the entire Arab Palestinian population. No Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) survivors, - no hostilities - peaceful outcome. (That is unrealistic!)
So, we know at the outset, 100% success is unachievable. But, "Breaking the Spirit and Will of the Arab Palestinians" is an obtainable objective. The tactics employed must:
◈ Fall within the range of being Humanitarianly acceptable. (No scorch-earth → No total elimination.)◈ It must be inside the limits of Customary Law.◈ It must be politically defendable actions.◈ The capitulation must be an announcement originating from the Arab Palestinians.In WWII, this was accomplished in a number of ways. Entire cities were incinerated; burnt to the ground. Damns were destroyed. The industry was ground-down to a halt. One Allied Power would bomb by day, while another Allied Power would bomb by night. It was destruction on a massive scale.
Of course, WWII Tactics cannot be employed. But the Israelis are attempting to chock-off support HoAP, through award (reinforcement for good behaviors) and punishment (loss of something important as a consequence for bad behaviors).
These questions about the destruction of home and crops, reduced water and new settlements in Area "C", are nothing more than the consequence for bad behaviors. The question is:
◈ Do the Arab Palestinians want the Firestorms in the Dresden Effect? .......................................................→ OR → ◈ Do the Arab Palestinians want the more tempered slow choking and strangulation?
The Arab Palestinian has spent more of an effort trying to justify their past practices of criminal behaviors, then they have trying to fix their leadership problems. Out of these hundreds of Resolutions singling out Israel for one thing or another, it is a very good thing that the Jewish People have a National Home to which they can retreat to protect themselves from the lack of justice emanating from the International Community.
Just how friendly and innocent are the HoAP:
Years: (between 2017 and 2018)
Global Terrorism Database (GTD)
SEARCH RESULTS: 97 INCIDENTS
All incidents regardless of doubt.
Country: (Israel)
(QUESTION)
How many attacks would your country accept before it retaliated with sufficient force to eliminate the threat and its infrastructure and support mechanism? What would that look like?
Most Respectfully,
R
About the 'break the spirit' and 'capitulation'.
'Break the spirit' is the main theme of Arab tactics, that's the main focus of all the lack of rationality.
Their mistake was that they approached the conflict thinking they KNOW Israelis, all figured out.
Israeli tactics are more about effective results - not mere effect.
And Israelis historically know much more about the Arab population,
than Arabs can ever learn from someone about Israelis of northern diaspora.
All that aside - to expect capitulation from Arabs is not the local language,
no Arab leader will utter anything close to that, it's either Sulhah or war, alliance or submission.
So there's that and there's the Israeli "Judo" way.
Show the enemy their utmost goals fulfilled, those are also their worst fears.
Arabs want to submit civilizations, we'll show them how they will get submitted by the weakest.
Arabs want to unify the middle east under exclusive Arab-Muslim hegemony, we'll lead that hegemony.
Arabs wanted to cleanse Arabia of Jews - they'll build us kosher restaurants, synagogues and dance to our music, even learn Hebrew before we even come there - with the sole purpose that we return to help them survive...which reminds me of another thing about the fertility of an Israeli man along a decline of Arab world birthrates and a loud threat we've learned to take at face value.
There's also the intellectual warfare, trending, uni's
where the anti-Israel side seems to have an upper hand.
But that is all short sighted, Israeli focus in not even in comparable time factors,
and therefore too strange and too crazy to take seriously, and miss the boldness of the act.
Reform of the Arab-Muslim world,
best self defense tactic, and appealing.
