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Is the term TeaBagger turning into hate speech?

PLYMCO_PILGRIM

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Bear with me here on this one.

Most of the people who use "Teabagger" in a negative way to describe tea party protesters typically also claim its a white conservative movement in the country.

So based on the fact that it is hurtful speech directed at a people who are looked at as white, conservative, and angry at the govt is calling them "Teabaggers" hatespeach akin to other derogatory words used for various groups of people.

The tea party is also considered a specific social group so it could come under that classification also.

hate speech - Legal Definition
Speech not protected by the First Amendment, because it is intended to foster hatred against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference, place of national origin, or other improper classification.

hate speech: Definition from Answers.com
Bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social or ethnic group or a member of such a group.

Hate speech - Definition
is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against someone based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability. The term covers written as well as oral communication.


It sure sounds like it qualifies as hate speech so I may have to watch myself with that term in the future.
 
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I personally don't buy into the notion of hate speech (or hate crimes).

1st Amendment Rights apply to everyone, even if what they say is hateful to the ears of some. There is the argument that such inflamatory speech is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The underlying racist assumption to that line of thinking, however, means that the minority who is being insulted lacks the self-control and maturity to ignore "the speech".

The morons who are calling Tea Partiers "teabaggers" just reveal their own stunted maturity and lack of class. They have no real impact on the Tea Party movement other than to make those who are curious wonder what the big deal is (and perhaps they will then join once they find out).
 
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I personally don't buy into the notion of hate speech (or hate crimes).

1st Amendment Rights apply to everyone, even if what they say is hateful to the ears of some. There is the argument that such inflamatory speech is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The underlying racist assumption to that line of thinking, however, means that the minority who is being insulted lacks the self-control and maturity to ignore "the speech".

The morons who are calling Tea Partiers "teabaggers" just reveal their own stunted maturity and lack of class. They have no real impact on the Tea Party movement other than to make those who are curious wonder what the big deal is (and perhaps they will then join once they find out).

I'm not a big fan of the whole "laws on speech" idea myself. I find it to be a stick in the eye of the first ammendment.

Considering that we do have laws about it I was just curious if people felt this type of derogatory terminology fit under the description of the hate speech laws.

Semantics are fun for me.
 

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And right on cue, here's one of the hate speechifiers spewing her filth.

(She really is special. :) )
 

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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

You should tell this guy that it's "hate speech" to use the term "Tea Baggers:"
philly.jpg


^ That dude is a Tea Partier.
 
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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

You should tell this guy that it's "hate speech" to use the term "Tea Baggers:"
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^ That dude is a Tea Partier.

THis is more about semantics than the movement in general. Im just curious if you think, under the definition of hate speech, someone can start claiming me or anyone else throwing the term teabagger around as hate speech.
 

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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

It's HATE SPEECH to accurately identify the political and economic ideology being practiced by the President? Wishing for him to be a one term president is HATE SPEECH?

Hope your brown shirt is not too tight.

Calling him a Socialist is not the same as Witch Doctor, btw. I don't know anyone who uses the latter term - and in and of itself, it's silly and no worse than calling Bush a Chimp.
 

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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

It's HATE SPEECH to accurately identify the political and economic ideology being practiced by the President? Wishing for him to be a one term president is HATE SPEECH?

Hope your brown shirt is not too tight.

Calling him a Socialist is not the same as Witch Doctor, btw. I don't know anyone who uses the latter term - and in and of itself, it's silly and no worse than calling Bush a Chimp.


Calling Obama a witch doctor without the appropriate visual just doesn't have the same effect.

obama_witch_doctor_image.jpg



So as to quell those who will call me racist (hey, it's a two-for-one deal!)

bush-witch-doctor.jpg
 
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I personally don't buy into the notion of hate speech (or hate crimes).

1st Amendment Rights apply to everyone, even if what they say is hateful to the ears of some. There is the argument that such inflamatory speech is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The underlying racist assumption to that line of thinking, however, means that the minority who is being insulted lacks the self-control and maturity to ignore "the speech".

The morons who are calling Tea Partiers "teabaggers" just reveal their own stunted maturity and lack of class. They have no real impact on the Tea Party movement other than to make those who are curious wonder what the big deal is (and perhaps they will then join once they find out).

Yup....kinda like those morons who call Liberals "Libtards".....:eusa_eh:
 

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is a FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE!!

If there's gonna ba a Teabagger Party, then we need to decide who's gonna be the Fudgepacker Party, and the Rugmuncher Party.

and YES, dernitall............





the Octopussy Party!!!:cool:
 

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Almost everything that issues from the foul maws of liberals is hate speech.

It's going to be a while before I get over one of our own calling any black tea party participant someone who just "dances and sings".
 

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Indeed. Some of the most vile racism I've ever witnessed has been aimed at conservative blacks by the Left.
 
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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

You should tell this guy that it's "hate speech" to use the term "Tea Baggers:"
philly.jpg


^ That dude is a Tea Partier.

He's a TEA Partier, is he? Just because it'll be entertaining for the board.... back that claim up, Little Lefty.
 

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Indeed. Some of the most vile racism I've ever witnessed has been aimed at conservative blacks by the Left.

Wow! While the most violent racism or hate I have witnessed has been commited by the right aimed at blacks and gays. It works both ways.
 

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Tea Bagger isn't near as bad as the Tea Baggers themselves calling the United States of America's President "Socialist," "Communist," "Witch Doctor," Calling for his days to be "Short," among other hateful things..and racist comments.
That is hate speech.

You should tell this guy that it's "hate speech" to use the term "Tea Baggers:"
philly.jpg


^ That dude is a Tea Partier.

He's a TEA Partier, is he? Just because it'll be entertaining for the board.... back that claim up, Little Lefty.

shouldn't the little fuckstain be in school right now?
 

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