CDZ Is Slavery America's Original Sin?

[EvilEyeFleegle]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

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I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

hahahhahahahahahhahah I just posted the proof how they act exactly like nazis
..I've been reading WW2/etc for over 40 years---you don't want to mess with me Smart Guy
here is some more just for YOU hahahahhahahahahahahaha
'''''''The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents''''''

Sturmabteilung (SA)

A history of the Sturmabteilung (SA) that includes includes images, quotations and the main facts of his life. GCSE Modern World History - Nazi Germany. A-level - Life in Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Last updated 10th June 2020.

spartacus-educational.com

nazis/SA DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings--sound familiar???????!!!!! hahahhahah here:

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than two dozen protesters chanting "black lives matter" disrupted Donald Trump's rally here on Friday, linking arms and resisting security personnel trying to eject them from the venue.

www.cnn.com

etc MANY links of Dems/BLM/etc DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings

You know nothing.

I don’t know what h you ou have been reading, but it has not improved your understanding of history.

Do you admire what Hitler tried to accomplish?

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

hahahhahahahahahhahah I just posted the proof how they act exactly like nazis
..I've been reading WW2/etc for over 40 years---you don't want to mess with me Smart Guy
here is some more just for YOU hahahahhahahahahahahaha
'''''''The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents''''''

Sturmabteilung (SA)

A history of the Sturmabteilung (SA) that includes includes images, quotations and the main facts of his life. GCSE Modern World History - Nazi Germany. A-level - Life in Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Last updated 10th June 2020.

spartacus-educational.com

nazis/SA DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings--sound familiar???????!!!!! hahahhahah here:

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than two dozen protesters chanting "black lives matter" disrupted Donald Trump's rally here on Friday, linking arms and resisting security personnel trying to eject them from the venue.

www.cnn.com

etc MANY links of Dems/BLM/etc DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings

You know nothing.

I don’t know what h you ou have been reading, but it has not improved your understanding of history.

Do you admire what Hitler tried to accomplish?

......you PROVE what I just stated = I provide evidence - you provide babble crap.....how many posts will you post WITHOUT evidence/etc??? it's been many so far .......keep going --you keep proving my pointS

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

hahahhahahahahahhahah I just posted the proof how they act exactly like nazis
..I've been reading WW2/etc for over 40 years---you don't want to mess with me Smart Guy
here is some more just for YOU hahahahhahahahahahahaha
'''''''The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents''''''

Sturmabteilung (SA)

A history of the Sturmabteilung (SA) that includes includes images, quotations and the main facts of his life. GCSE Modern World History - Nazi Germany. A-level - Life in Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Last updated 10th June 2020.

spartacus-educational.com

nazis/SA DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings--sound familiar???????!!!!! hahahhahah here:

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than two dozen protesters chanting "black lives matter" disrupted Donald Trump's rally here on Friday, linking arms and resisting security personnel trying to eject them from the venue.

www.cnn.com

etc MANY links of Dems/BLM/etc DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings

You know nothing.

I don’t know what h you ou have been reading, but it has not improved your understanding of history.

Do you admire what Hitler tried to accomplish?

he was ok, he just went a little too far

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

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I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

no--you have NO proof
'''instructed to DISRUPT the meetings of political opponents''''
etc
.......I have a lot of German [ nazi ] memorabilia --brought home by my Uncle who fought in WW2

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

View attachment 435558

I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

no--you have NO proof
'''instructed to DISRUPT the meetings of political opponents''''
etc
.......I have a lot of German [ nazi ] memorabilia --brought home by my Uncle who fought in WW2

Your “uncle” or his memorabilia has nothing to do with your lack of understanding about Nazi history.

If you can’t make a point about BLM protests without Nazi references you should not be posting in this thread.

 

[meaner gene]

Had America given up slavery when the rest of the civilized world did, there never would have been a civil war.

No, because slavery was not the issue. Succession was.

Succession for SLAVERY.

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

View attachment 435558

I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

no--you have NO proof
'''instructed to DISRUPT the meetings of political opponents''''
etc
.......I have a lot of German [ nazi ] memorabilia --brought home by my Uncle who fought in WW2

Your “uncle” or his memorabilia has nothing to do with your lack of understanding about Nazi history.

If you can’t make a point about BLM protests without Nazi references you should not be posting in this thread.

but they act just like nazis--YOU brought it up

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

View attachment 435558

I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

no--you have NO proof
'''instructed to DISRUPT the meetings of political opponents''''
etc
.......I have a lot of German [ nazi ] memorabilia --brought home by my Uncle who fought in WW2

Your “uncle” or his memorabilia has nothing to do with your lack of understanding about Nazi history.

If you can’t make a point about BLM protests without Nazi references you should not be posting in this thread.

so, you brought up the EVIl stuff the ''Republicans'' do
I have question for you:
===what do you think of the Dems [ blacks ] committing HATE crimes at twice the rate of whites??--that blew your mind, didn't it??
..or Dems [ blacks ] murdering whites at TEN times the rate of vice versa??
blew your mind, didn't it
----all the LIES and bullshit about white supremacists/EVIL whites/EVIL Republicans

 

[9thIDdoc]

In a word..Yes. As you point out, we compromised from the very beginning....else there would have been no nation at all---and set the table for the Civil War..100 years later.

Had America given up slavery when the rest of the civilized world did, there never would have been a civil war.

No, because slavery was not the issue. Succession was.

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue. Actual history makes it clear that the war was fought because States had in fact left the Union and Lincoln was in denial over of the matter as you appear to be. The States had quite legally voluntarily left a union that they had voluntarily joined. The North was very much like a stalking and abusive ex-husband.

 

[meaner gene]

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue. Actual history makes it clear that the war was fought because States had in fact left the Union and Lincoln was in denial over of the matter as you appear to be. The States had quite legally voluntarily left a union that they had voluntarily joined. The North was very much like a stalking and abusive ex-husband.

You are putting the cart before the horse by saying the Civil War was about seccession.

Because seccession was about slavery.

 

[AMart]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

hahahhahahahahahhahah I just posted the proof how they act exactly like nazis
..I've been reading WW2/etc for over 40 years---you don't want to mess with me Smart Guy
here is some more just for YOU hahahahhahahahahahahaha
'''''''The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents''''''

Sturmabteilung (SA)

A history of the Sturmabteilung (SA) that includes includes images, quotations and the main facts of his life. GCSE Modern World History - Nazi Germany. A-level - Life in Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Last updated 10th June 2020.

spartacus-educational.com

nazis/SA DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings--sound familiar???????!!!!! hahahhahah here:

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than two dozen protesters chanting "black lives matter" disrupted Donald Trump's rally here on Friday, linking arms and resisting security personnel trying to eject them from the venue.

www.cnn.com

etc MANY links of Dems/BLM/etc DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings

You know nothing.

I don’t know what h you ou have been reading, but it has not improved your understanding of history.

Do you admire what Hitler tried to accomplish?

he was ok, he just went a little too far

Hitler missed the Frankfurt School guys, they escaped. Now Hitler did have the leader of Antifa arrested and killed and the rest of them fled to USSR and Stalin had them killed. Useful idiots LOL.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue. Actual history makes it clear that the war was fought because States had in fact left the Union and Lincoln was in denial over of the matter as you appear to be. The States had quite legally voluntarily left a union that they had voluntarily joined. The North was very much like a stalking and abusive ex-husband.

You are putting the cart before the horse by saying the Civil War was about seccession.

Because seccession was about slavery.

Slavery was legal both before and after the North's invasion of the South. Why was it necessary to invade a foreign country if the intent was to abolish slavery?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue. Actual history makes it clear that the war was fought because States had in fact left the Union and Lincoln was in denial over of the matter as you appear to be. The States had quite legally voluntarily left a union that they had voluntarily joined. The North was very much like a stalking and abusive ex-husband.

You are putting the cart before the horse by saying the Civil War was about seccession.

Because seccession was about slavery.

Slavery was legal both before and after the North's invasion of the South. Why was it necessary to invade a foreign country if the intent was to abolish slavery?

The intent was NOT to abolish slavery..it was to preserve the Union. Lincoln would have accepted slavery in exchange for solidarity..however his constituency would not have. The intent of the South however...was to perpetuate slavery--which they saw as integral to their way of life..both culturally..and economically.

 

[meaner gene]

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue.

Slavery was legal both before and after the North's invasion of the South. Why was it necessary to invade a foreign country if the intent was to abolish slavery?

Actually slavery had been made illegal in most of the "northern" states.

Pennsylvania abolished slavery in 1780, and about half the states abolished slavery during the Revolutionary War or in the first decades of the new country

Slavery became a very divisive issue. It was a major issue during the writing of the U.S. Constitution in 1787, and slavery was the primary cause of the American Civil War in 1861.

Slave states and free states - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

View attachment 435558

I provide proof for my claims --you people provide babble crap

Our proof is our 8th grade education..apparently you missed some classes.

no--you have NO proof
'''instructed to DISRUPT the meetings of political opponents''''
etc
.......I have a lot of German [ nazi ] memorabilia --brought home by my Uncle who fought in WW2

Your “uncle” or his memorabilia has nothing to do with your lack of understanding about Nazi history.

If you can’t make a point about BLM protests without Nazi references you should not be posting in this thread.

so, you brought up the EVIl stuff the ''Republicans'' do
I have question for you:
===what do you think of the Dems [ blacks ] committing HATE crimes at twice the rate of whites??--that blew your mind, didn't it??
..or Dems [ blacks ] murdering whites at TEN times the rate of vice versa??
blew your mind, didn't it
----all the LIES and bullshit about white supremacists/EVIL whites/EVIL Republicans

You have a problem with racial integration don't you.

You also have a very loose grip on facts.

 

[otto105]

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue. Actual history makes it clear that the war was fought because States had in fact left the Union and Lincoln was in denial over of the matter as you appear to be. The States had quite legally voluntarily left a union that they had voluntarily joined. The North was very much like a stalking and abusive ex-husband.

You are putting the cart before the horse by saying the Civil War was about seccession.

Because seccession was about slavery.

Slavery was legal both before and after the North's invasion of the South. Why was it necessary to invade a foreign country if the intent was to abolish slavery?

What foreign country are you referring too?

 

[9thIDdoc]

Quite informed, thank you. Slavery was an issue but it was not THE issue.

Slavery was legal both before and after the North's invasion of the South. Why was it necessary to invade a foreign country if the intent was to abolish slavery?

Actually slavery had been made illegal in most of the "northern" states.

Pennsylvania abolished slavery in 1780, and about half the states abolished slavery during the Revolutionary War or in the first decades of the new country

Slavery became a very divisive issue. It was a major issue during the writing of the U.S. Constitution in 1787, and slavery was the primary cause of the American Civil War in 1861.

Slave states and free states - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The North was largely industrial while the South largely agricultural. Slaves were as much a part of the system in the South as machinery was in the North. It was mostly about wealth and who had it or were in a position to get it. Southerners who had never owned a slave, either didn't have any desire to do so or expectation ever being able to afford one, had maybe never even seen one fought for their Country and their family the same as any American with the slightest bit of self-respect would do. I don't think you would ever be able to convince him he was fighting for slavery. And it probably have been hazardous to try.

 

[9thIDdoc]

The United States of America as opposed to the Confederate States of America. It was in all the newspapers and history books.

 

[2aguy]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

They didn't murder him....he had 2X the lethal level of fentanyl in his system.....he was dead before the police arrived.