CDZ Is Slavery America's Original Sin?

[meaner gene]

What part of "that doesn't matter," do you not understand?

It seems like when it's pointed out that Biden got more votes in the swing states than Trump, you give the same answer

"That doesn't matter"

 

[2aguy]

What part of "that doesn't matter," do you not understand?

It seems like when it's pointed out that Biden got more votes in the swing states than Trump, you give the same answer

"That doesn't matter"

Fake votes? Yeah, the don't matter to a real election.

Nice to see you are moving off of defending obama.....since you can't make the argument against him being a racist.

 

[meaner gene]

Again......sharpton is a racist and has been to the obama white house over 72 times....

But Sharpton never got a personal invite from Obama.

Here's Sharpton with Senator Obama in 2008

And Sharpton with Bloomberg and Gingrich after a meeting.

Why no Kanye West or Kim Kardashian type invites?

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

In a word..Yes. As you point out, we compromised from the very beginning....else there would have been no nation at all---and set the table for the Civil War..100 years later.

When we codified enslaved human beings as chattel worth less than white people--in our founding document--at the very inception of our polity...that is the definition of original sin..and it has cast its shadow ever since. Not just Blacks..but every non-white was suspect and held to be less than White...it was what it was and it is what it is.

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

 

[meaner gene]

Good news Bad news
Louis Farrakhan did visit the Obama white house.

But before the drooling starts

Norm Eisen, the special counsel to the president on ethics and government reform, noted that the James Taylor and Louis Farrakhan that appeared the records aren't the famous people with those names.

Oh.... So close.... so close ....

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

 

[meaner gene]

In a word..Yes. As you point out, we compromised from the very beginning....else there would have been no nation at all---and set the table for the Civil War..100 years later.

Had America given up slavery when the rest of the civilized world did, there never would have been a civil war.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Most Americans are intent on denying that their country is totally immersed in systemic racism. And so instead of debating that point they have to present a turn-about argument in which they accuse black people of being racists too.

AND THEY'RE RIGHT, at least to the same degree as are white people.

But that's just avoiding the issue!
There's little chance of many Americans just facing up to the racism issue now that it's been permitted to fester for so many years. The writing of the US Constitution failed to take sufficient affirmative action to end racism and that was because dirty compromises were demanded for the sake of union of the states.

It seems that many who opposed Trump were aware of the racism problem in America, but they weren't also aware that they were racists too.
I think the issue didn't come up for Trump opposers for a simple reason. The Trump supporters wouldn't have considered racism of the other side as an issue on which they could gain by fighting on the fact. No racism is going to show much concern about the behaviour of another fellow racist, regardless of political loyalty.

" Most Americans are intent on denying that their country is totally immersed in systemic racism."

I think that most American are simply aware that that is an obvious self-serving lie that also has nothing to do with the OP.

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

 

[9thIDdoc]

In a word..Yes. As you point out, we compromised from the very beginning....else there would have been no nation at all---and set the table for the Civil War..100 years later.

Had America given up slavery when the rest of the civilized world did, there never would have been a civil war.

No, because slavery was not the issue. Succession was.

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

In a word..Yes. As you point out, we compromised from the very beginning....else there would have been no nation at all---and set the table for the Civil War..100 years later.

Had America given up slavery when the rest of the civilized world did, there never would have been a civil war.

No, because slavery was not the issue. Succession was.

Disingenuous or just uninformed? The South wished to secede in order to retain slavery..it was the number one issue....all the State's Rights stuff...was just the chosen argument. If the North had taken abolition off of the table...there would never have been a Civil War.

 

[otto105]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but your clearly not up to this forum.

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

......---I've posted in many threads and my thread has shown that the left act just like the nazis...you prove you don't know shit about the nazis
here is just ONE example:

Rioters/left just like the nazis-Kristallnacht

...in ADDITION to my other links and evidence, we have these rioters and the left acting just like the nazis on Kristallnacht--where the nazis burned/looted/destroyed because of RACE and hate https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht MORE proof they are like nazis

www.usmessageboard.com

The fascist NAZIs acted like themselves. Civil unrest over the unjustified police murder of unarmed African-Americans is not equivalent as you imply.

hahahhahahahahhahahahah
but most of them ARE justified ...most of the protests are not justified
....blacks commit crimes/violent crimes at HIGHER rates = they have more contact with the police = they are killed at LOWER rates than whites


......plain and simple, you cannot refute that the left/BLM/Dems act just like nazis---you are trying to deflect
....AND your deflection is bullshit also

What is clear, is that you know nothing about Nazism. Do you understand what mutually exclusive means?

If not, you cannot hope to have a discussion on subject.

Your conservative talking points will have no meaningful impact on anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

hahahhahahahahahhahah I just posted the proof how they act exactly like nazis
..I've been reading WW2/etc for over 40 years---you don't want to mess with me Smart Guy
here is some more just for YOU hahahahhahahahahahahaha
'''''''The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents''''''

Sturmabteilung (SA)

A history of the Sturmabteilung (SA) that includes includes images, quotations and the main facts of his life. GCSE Modern World History - Nazi Germany. A-level - Life in Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Last updated 10th June 2020.

spartacus-educational.com

nazis/SA DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings--sound familiar???????!!!!! hahahhahah here:

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than 2 dozen Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Trump rally

More than two dozen protesters chanting "black lives matter" disrupted Donald Trump's rally here on Friday, linking arms and resisting security personnel trying to eject them from the venue.

www.cnn.com

etc MANY links of Dems/BLM/etc DISRUPTING political opponents' meetings

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

 

[harmonica]

If slavery had existed for 150 years before the creation of the United States, how can it be described as our original sin? The answer is that it can't be blamed on our country unless you miraculously reset the date of its creation to 1619, when the first African slaves were sold to British colonialists in Jamestown. The principal reason for buying African slaves was their natural resistance to malaria., which was killing off the European workers in the Southern Colonies. Once purchased, they became an indispensable asset to labor intensive agriculture in those colonies.

Slavery was never popular in the Northern Colonies, and abolitionist movements began to spring up in the mid 1700s. However, resentment of the British government's authoritarian policies was also building and finally erupted into the War for Independence from Great Britain. After winning that war, the Colonies realized that their independence could not be protected unless a common government was formed. A proposed Constitution was hotly debated among the former colonies, and was ratified only after allowing the southern States to retain slavery in return for accepting joint responsibility for the war debts that had been accrued.

This compromise enabled the creation of the United States, but did not end the ever-growing abolitionist movement which culminated in the Civil War. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in that conflagration, and it is an insult to those who died for that cause to now be accused of supporting the institution they fought against. If there is any original sin to be assigned, it was the widespread rape of African women by their slave masters. But this is not and should not be an indictment of the entire United States of America.

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/the-first-africans/

Hove you read the Constitution and it’s proclaimed values and compared that to actions at the time?

That would help you.

Yep....slavery has existed Throughout the entire history of mankind, our Constitution finally put down in words how we would be different from the rest of the planet, by ending slavery and stating that all men are created equal.........since Europe and Africa brought slavery to America, we had to deal with it....and we did........we ended slavery with bloodshed....and have been working to create our ideals in this country....all the while, the democrat party, from it's very creation, has been fighting to keep racism and hate alive.

The Democratic Party included the Dixiecrats until the republic party decided they wanted them.

Enjoy them. They have made the GOP into a new dumber party.

And that is not true or accurate......

The dixiecrats stayed democrats.....they never changed sides.....the lie of the great party switch on racism is just that, a lie....the democrat party never abandoned it's racism and violence, as we see today as joe biden voters burned and looted cities, beat and murdered Americans and as the democrat party, today, seeks to resegregate society based on race.....

Don't try to deny what any 3rd grade kid can plainly see.

3rd Graders are smarter than that.......given the truth, they will see that the democrat party has been and still is the party of racism and hate...

Sure, sure.

Which party in 2020 is still bitching about all those African-American votes from urban areas.

Which party will again move to suppress voters in urban areas.

Which party has a president who retweets from racist alt-right websites and call neo-nazi protesters fine people?

Which party president pushed for and signed the Civil Rights bills?

Which party is david duke a current member of?


Why do you support the party of dumb?

David Duke ---WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
what party has members that commit HATE crimes at the highest rate?? ??? Dems

Offenders

ucr.fbi.gov

.....which party has members that commit MURDER at FOUR times the rate??? commit INTERRACIAL murder at TEN TIMES the rate!!!!!!??????
Dems:

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

ucr.fbi.gov

white supremacists murder less than 10 per year
Obama's people murder over 3000 per year
Obama's people rape at TWICE the rate

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

The Long List of Killings Committed by White Extremists Since the Oklahoma City Bombing

White supremacist James Fields Jr. appears to have intentionally run over Heather Heyer in Virginia on Aug. 12.

slate.com

Great here we go with the false equivalence straw man.

The trump FBI has called rightwing domestic violence the greatest terror threat facing America.

Yet, you compare gang violence directly to Obama like as a black man responsible for the entire race. The south has a term for that...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHH--woooooooooooooooo
no strawman--FACTS!! and not from the MSM--those are FACTS
no, not comparing gang violence/etc

Is trump responsible for the actions of every white person who has committed violence?

hold on there
you are talking about which party has the EVIL people!!
YOU are the one who brought up party affiliation

I’m sorry, but you clearly not up to this forum.

It hasn't stopped him yet. ROTFLMAO!

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