CDZ Is preventing one Corona death worth 1,000 people losing their jobs?

I say no. One person dying is a singular event. One thousand people losing their jobs has lasting repercussions. What say you?

Saving one person is worth Dopey Donald Trump and the whole Trump administration losing their jobs.

Then why don't you get with Sweden and convince them to lockdown.

They are not and have no plans it seems.

And they are doing just fine.

You are a hack and can kiss my ass.
CDZ you two. Just sayin' don't derail a good thread.
 
I say no. One person dying is a singular event. One thousand people losing their jobs has lasting repercussions. What say you?

Saving one person is worth Dopey Donald Trump and the whole Trump administration losing their jobs.

Dopey Leftists like you and Nancy Pelosi must have a certain hatred for private sector jobs, don't you?
There are already thousands of homeless living in Pelosi's district and the place isnt getting any better... do you really want to see the ranks of the homeless become greater? Wheres your compassion?
Thousands of restaurants go out of business all over the country for example.. you think those are Trumps jobs? are you really an idiot? or just filled with so much hate it makes you sound like one on a regular basis?
So say a family loses their life savings they invested in a business .. end up getting divorced.. turn to alcohol, someone dies from a stress related illness, someone has to work two lesser paying jobs later instead of the good one they lost... and they die years earlier.. the kids end up having a crappier life because they see their parents lives screwed up..
there are just so many things that would happen if our economy is truely screwed. You just dont seem to get it, so it kind of makes me feel your some kind of government employee, or have some other income source so your insulated.
It must be nice.

What a pathetic rant from a person who would die for Trump's lies.

All of the current situations are related to Donald Trump's incompetence. He granted wealthy corporations huge tax reductions. They brought back their foreign cash reserves, borrowed more, and combined the cash and borrowings with the tax deduction savings and bought back their shares to create a bogus stock market bubble.

Trump has been crashing the US economy since January 2017 as he created debt at >2 x GDP growth rate.

The coronavirus job crisis is just the latest manifestation of Dopey Donald Trump's incompetence.

Now these corporations, including Boeing, are crying poor because thet frittered their cash holdings on the Trump bogus stockmarket bubble.
 
The other reality of this troll post is buckle up folks. People aren't going back to work on May 1st. No way no how. It's bad yes. It's massively unfortunate. But it isn't over in 25 days. Maybe by June, maybe. Hopefully. There's reality.
 

Sweden has focused on isolating and treating the sick rather than closing down swathes of society.

Gatherings of more than 50 people have been banned, high schools and universities have moved teaching online and people have been told not to take unnecessary trips, all quite low-key measures in a European context.

The public face of Sweden's pandemic fight, Health Agency Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, only months ago a little known civil servant but now rivalling the prime minister for publicity, has questioned how effectively lockdowns can be enforced over time.

"It is important to have a policy that can be sustained over a longer period, meaning staying home if you are sick, which is our message," said Tegnell, who has received both threats and fan mail over the country's handling of the crisis.

"Locking people up at home won't work in the longer term," he said. "Sooner or later people are going to go out anyway."



The experiment continues in Sweden..........of EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE. In a nutshell they think that the young and those that normally beat this thing will get it.......beat it and no longer be able to transmit it..............so a vast portion of the country will become IMMUNE to it.......They quarantine the sick...........advise those with high risk to hide........and let the main HERD LOOSE.......

They are calling it HERD MENTALITY.

It's herd immunity, dumbass! No, you have it all wrong.
 
The reality is that crucial jobs that allow us even to survive, food production and processing, transport, distribution, power generation, and so much more is not and can not be shut down. As many here have said, however, the present lock down policies can NOT be maintained long term.

So an informed and serious conversation about when and which industries and businesses can be opened is a crucial and legitimate one.

Here is an article that deals with it in more depth, and does so without partisan references to Trump or Democrats. Hard decisions will have to made sooner or later, and denying that is foolish.

 
Jobs mean nothing is there are no people to work. Who will raise the children if the parents become ill and die?

We should be analyzing how this pandemic is affecting our country and economy so that we are better prepared if/when this happens again. The US is primarily a service driven country. Lets stop complaining about having to close down businesses for a relatively short period of time in the scale of things and rise to the occasion and figure out how to modify how we do things to make it work. The US has become whiny. Suck it up and figure it out!
 
I think Fauci has been basing his predictions on faulty assumptions. That much has been proven, from Communist China hiding facts about COVID 19 to our MSM who invariably side with Red China as long as they're anti Trump. Fauci seems like more of a politician than a scientist or problem solver. His answers are vague generalizations that serve little purpose. Stay home to mitigate the disease spreading and wash your hands is the extent of advice that comes from Fauci. They should immediately test all out of work people for COVID 19 or the presence of the antigen so we can get back to work now. Also keep in mind that many of the people who died of the virus were going to die anyway. That's why this "we should do anything to save one life" philosophy is all bullshit. If we leave this economy deteriorate to the point of being unsalvageable, that will kill far more people than this virus ever could. It's just like what Trump said about not allowing the cure to become worst than the disease. If Trump has done anything wrong in this situation it's putting too much faith in Fauci. But then again, imagine the MSMs coverage if he would get someone else. Imagine the MSMs coverage if Trump opened things up and deaths went up. Ah, what the hell. Imagine the MSMs coverage no matter what Trump does. The MSM and Communist China are fast becoming indistinguishable
 
False choice. Amazing however...back when Obama single handedly saved our auto industry; the conservatives were aghast—aghast I tell you— and reasoned that the workers would just find other work. Now it’s unthinkable.

I find it silly such questions are being asked when, as conservative dogma goes, creative destruction always takes place.
 
I think Fauci has been basing his predictions on faulty assumptions. That much has been proven, from Communist China hiding facts about COVID 19 to our MSM who invariably side with Red China as long as they're anti Trump. Fauci seems like more of a politician than a scientist or problem solver. His answers are vague generalizations that serve little purpose. Stay home to mitigate the disease spreading and wash your hands is the extent of advice that comes from Fauci. They should immediately test all out of work people for COVID 19 or the presence of the antigen so we can get back to work now. Also keep in mind that many of the people who died of the virus were going to die anyway. That's why this "we should do anything to save one life" philosophy is all bullshit. If we leave this economy deteriorate to the point of being unsalvageable, that will kill far more people than this virus ever could. It's just like what Trump said about not allowing the cure to become worst than the disease. If Trump has done anything wrong in this situation it's putting too much faith in Fauci. But then again, imagine the MSMs coverage if he would get someone else. Imagine the MSMs coverage if Trump opened things up and deaths went up. Ah, what the hell. Imagine the MSMs coverage no matter what Trump does. The MSM and Communist China are fast becoming indistinguishable
Both of the people qualified to speak about viruses are wondering where the “off” button is on the political idiots.

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I say no. One person dying is a singular event. One thousand people losing their jobs has lasting repercussions. What say you?

Saving one person is worth Dopey Donald Trump and the whole Trump administration losing their jobs.

Dopey Leftists like you and Nancy Pelosi must have a certain hatred for private sector jobs, don't you?
There are already thousands of homeless living in Pelosi's district and the place isnt getting any better... do you really want to see the ranks of the homeless become greater? Wheres your compassion?
Thousands of restaurants go out of business all over the country for example.. you think those are Trumps jobs? are you really an idiot? or just filled with so much hate it makes you sound like one on a regular basis?
So say a family loses their life savings they invested in a business .. end up getting divorced.. turn to alcohol, someone dies from a stress related illness, someone has to work two lesser paying jobs later instead of the good one they lost... and they die years earlier.. the kids end up having a crappier life because they see their parents lives screwed up..
there are just so many things that would happen if our economy is truely screwed. You just dont seem to get it, so it kind of makes me feel your some kind of government employee, or have some other income source so your insulated.
It must be nice.

What a pathetic rant from a person who would die for Trump's lies.

All of the current situations are related to Donald Trump's incompetence. He granted wealthy corporations huge tax reductions. They brought back their foreign cash reserves, borrowed more, and combined the cash and borrowings with the tax deduction savings and bought back their shares to create a bogus stock market bubble.

Trump has been crashing the US economy since January 2017 as he created debt at >2 x GDP growth rate.

The coronavirus job crisis is just the latest manifestation of Dopey Donald Trump's incompetence.

Now these corporations, including Boeing, are crying poor because thet frittered their cash holdings on the Trump bogus stockmarket bubble.


The market crash has nothing to do with "Trumps incompetence" neither does the job loss. It was fears over the Virus. You know that. The economy was doing fine. Trump is trying to bring jobs and companies BACK to the U.S. from over seas. We lost tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs and companies because of Clintons Nafta and China trade deal. Its a big reason why companies like 3M are not making product here in the U.S.
Plus, His administration and others after him were very lax with China even though they were and are a human rights abuser. We allowed them to ship off our infrastructure over there... pathetic. Trusted them in the hopes that they would peacefully join the world trade community because of our good will... What did we get?
Diane Feinstein got a Chinese Spy as a driver. No telling how much classified information they gleaned from her alone over the years. Thats outside of all their other intellectual theft from universities and else ware.
Yeah, your people really set us up gooooood. Anything else you want to do for us? And to think I voted for Clinton the first time, but I learned my lesson that the Democrats are here to sell us out. Big Internationalists hiding behind lies and media generated images of being benevolent to the little guy... want to look into Feinstein's ties to China and the hundreds of millions her husband invested there?

U.S.Companies were given incentive to set up shop outside the country. This is not Trumps fault and if anything he's been trying to reverse that trend, and also make us more energy independent from the M.E.
 
Dopey Donald Trump made the US economy fragile by creating the environment for corporations to squander their cash assets and tax savings on share buy-backs to create a bogus share market bubble.

Donald Trump was accumulating government debt >2 x GDP growth which means the debt infusion was unproductive as it was producing only 50% of its value in economic growth.

Any fool can create a bubble with burgeoning debt and low interest rates. Now the bubble has burst.

Yes Trumpies, it is Dopey Donald Trump's fault you are blubbering, blathering, and blundering around singing his praises while biting people on the neck.
 
I say no. One person dying is a singular event. One thousand people losing their jobs has lasting repercussions. What say you?


I guess the answer to your question depends on who it is that dies. Is your wife's life more that 1,000 jobs? How about your children? Which one would you sacrifice for 1,000 jobs?


Understand the concern we have right now but there is a tipping point to where job loss will cost lives as well and Are we prepared to shut down every year for the common flu? Thousands of lives are lost each year with the common flu.... but we accept those deaths and keep going to work. Even though we know we may infect someone else. Why is ONE of those lives lost acceptable?

We need to obviously find a vaccine for Corona and more social distancing is warranted but at some point we have to go back to work even though one more person might get sick and die.. the virus will probably be around for a couple years. You really want to wait that long?
 
do you really want to see the ranks of the homeless become greater?

Excellent point. Many businesses will never reopen, so those jobs will be permanently lost. There is a direct connection between lack of employment and homelessness, and a direct connection between homelessness and premature death.

Of course, the homeless are valuable to libtards only as political pawns in their game to defeat President Trump.
 
Easy too say, but what if that one death is you your child your parent, would that change the value?
 

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