Iraq wants us to leave

[Ravi]

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Iraq's national security adviser said Tuesday his country will not accept any security deal with the United States unless it contains specific dates for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces.

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[sealybobo]

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Finally the truth is coming out? Where did you hear this? Because I heard this weeks ago on Randi Rhodes and no other "liberal" media mentioned this fact.

I've even been arguing with a guy at work. His son is in Iraq and he said that the Iraqi's want us to stay. I told him, "your son is in the green zone".

But, I have a feeling Bush is going to make Malaki an offer he can't refuse.

I hope Exxon gets thrown out too. And I hope we Nationalize our oil like Venuezuela did. Screw the oil companies.

And while we are at it, abolish the Federal Reserve. Those are rich men that own our country. They control the money, so they control EVERYTHING.

And break up the media. It has been taken over by neocons. Time for truth to come back to the news.

 

[Article 15]

Terrorism is defeated ...

We want a time table ...

All this coming from the Iraqi gov't who are "calling the shots," and in control of their own destiny.

Right ... right?

 

[sealybobo]

Terrorism is defeated ...

We want a time table ...

All this coming from the Iraqi gov't who are "calling the shots," and in control of their own destiny.

Right ... right?

What I hate is that the people we argue with will just pretend to forget they were dead wrong about "Iraqi's wanting us to stay", and they'll swallow the next lie that Rush feeds them.

Just like the mission changed a million times.

Now I don't even care or believe that we are succeeding in Iraq. They lied about that so many times.

And the surge was meant to lower violence enough that they could make politicial reconciliation. So don't tell us General Betrayus that the surge worked, because there still is NO POLITICIAL RECONCILIATION.

Oops. Did I say Betrayus? I meant Petrayus. Obama, osama. You know. LOL.

 

[AllieBaba]

Iraq wants to be independent, and those who are corrupt and evil would like to see our backsides sooner than later.

We're on the verge of having a beacon in the middle east that will be an example to everyone else. A place where a representative government is in place, a place that is friendly to the US, a place where people can live happily and in peace. And dumbasses who have claimed we lost from the beginning will ruin it all by whining and wringing their hands and pulling us out of there microseconds (figuratively speaking) before it happens.

 

[sealybobo]

iraq Wants To Be Independent, And Those Who Are Corrupt And Evil Would Like To See Our Backsides Sooner Than Later.

We're On The Verge Of Having A Beacon In The Middle East That Will Be An Example To Everyone Else. A Place Where A Representative Government Is In Place, A Place That Is Friendly To The Us, A Place Where People Can Live Happily And In Peace. And Dumbasses Who Have Claimed We Lost From The Beginning Will Ruin It All By Whining And Wringing Their Hands And Pulling Us Out Of There Microseconds (figuratively Speaking) Before It Happens.

One Of The Terrorists Number One Reason For Hating America Is That We Have Bases In Saudi Arabia. Infidel Invaders Is What They Call Us.

Dude, You Want A 100 Year War. What's Wrong With You.

How About We Secure Our Borders And Stop Letting Terrorists In To Attack Us?

People Like You Made The Same Argument In Viet Nam.

You Are Simply Wrong.

We Have Afganistan Already.

Iraq Wants Us To Leave. Malaki Wants Us To Leave. Time To Leave.

The War On "terrorism"? How Can You Beat That? Who Are "terrorists"? Evildoers. Insurgents.

Dude, You Got Mad When 4000 Americans Died On 9-11. We Have Killed Over A Million Iraqi's. How Angry Are They?

You Need To Take Your Brainwashed Head Out Of Your Patriotic Ass.

 

[Article 15]

The troops aren't going to get "yanked" out.

Even *if* Obama withdraws from Iraq it will be done over a period of time.

We're talking 2 years from today at the earliest ...

So if we are "on the verge" now is not possible that it "will be" in two years?

 

[Steerpike]

Most recent poll I could find on the subject:

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Poll suggests flicker of optimism in Iraq

 

[AllieBaba]

One Of The Terrorists Number One Reason For Hating America Is That We Have Bases In Saudi Arabia. Infidel Invaders Is What They Call Us.

Dude, You Want A 100 Year War. What's Wrong With You.

How About We Secure Our Borders And Stop Letting Terrorists In To Attack Us?

People Like You Made The Same Argument In Viet Nam.

You Are Simply Wrong.

We Have Afganistan Already.

Iraq Wants Us To Leave. Malaki Wants Us To Leave. Time To Leave.

The War On "terrorism"? How Can You Beat That? Who Are "terrorists"? Evildoers. Insurgents.

Dude, You Got Mad When 4000 Americans Died On 9-11. We Have Killed Over A Million Iraqi's. How Angry Are They?

You Need To Take Your Brainwashed Head Out Of Your Patriotic Ass.

Let's talk about brainwashing. Brainwashing is when you think the best place on earth, the United States, where people have the highest standard of living in the world, is bad simply by way of being good. When you think that because we have a high standard of living, we should suffer. Or because we treat our citizens well, other countries are right to target and resent us. Because we have freedom, we should die at the hands of tyrants and terrorists. That's brainwashing. The inability to see that terrorists are not good guys, that they don't have justification for targeting innocents (they don't just target us, you know, you fucking moron. They target people indiscriminately. They kill their own children and women, for God's sake).

I suggest that if you're going to play with the big boys, you take a deep breath to make sure your tiny pea brain is fully oxygenated, and think for yourself, instead of mindlessly regurgitating the pap you've been fed by anti-American, terrorist-supporting pieces of shit who think it's cute to bad mouth the very country that allows you to speak at all.

 

[busara]

Brainwashing is when you think the best place on earth, the United States, where people have the highest standard of living in the world, is bad simply by way of being good.

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Or because we treat our citizens well, other countries are right to target and resent us. Because we have freedom, we should die at the hands of tyrants and terrorists. That's brainwashing. The inability to see that terrorists are not good guys, that they don't have justification for targeting innocents (they don't just target us, you know, you fucking moron. They target people indiscriminately. They kill their own children and women, for God's sake).

did you read what he wrote? he didnt say we should be attacked or that terrorists are nice people.

i have a question. can you be critical of someone or something, even if you love them or it? youre talking like america is purely a victim, while that doesnt seem to be the case.

take a deep breath and calm down. lets get back to an intelligent discussion instead of name calling.

 

[Article 15]

Let's talk about brainwashing. Brainwashing is when you think the best place on earth, the United States, where people have the highest standard of living in the world, is bad simply by way of being good. When you think that because we have a high standard of living, we should suffer. Or because we treat our citizens well, other countries are right to target and resent us. Because we have freedom, we should die at the hands of tyrants and terrorists. That's brainwashing. The inability to see that terrorists are not good guys, that they don't have justification for targeting innocents (they don't just target us, you know, you fucking moron. They target people indiscriminately. They kill their own children and women, for God's sake).

I suggest that if you're going to play with the big boys, you take a deep breath to make sure your tiny pea brain is fully oxygenated, and think for yourself, instead of mindlessly regurgitating the pap you've been fed by anti-American, terrorist-supporting pieces of shit who think it's cute to bad mouth the very country that allows you to speak at all.

I'd just be content with some form of consistency from the White House. We've been told that the US isn't in charge there, that it's Maliki's gov't and that the Iraqis make the decisions. But when stuff like this comes out they shrug it off or brush it aside. Double-speak all around.

It's like the surge ... before the surge we couldn't leave because things were going so badly and now the narrative has flipped to we can't leave now because thing are going so well.

 

[AllieBaba]

Before the surge we couldn't leave because things would get worse if we did. And it's the same now...if we left now, things will devolve.

But it's right and natural that Iraqis want to take over their own government. YOu just have to be careful with the strategy. If we leave too soon, they're ripe for the picking and you end up with a mess like before.

We have handed over 9 of 18 provinces already. Things are going exactly the way they're supposed to.

 

[Taomon]

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he people have spoken.

 

[Yurt]

Finally the truth is coming out? Where did you hear this? Because I heard this weeks ago on Randi Rhodes and no other "liberal" media mentioned this fact.

I've even been arguing with a guy at work. His son is in Iraq and he said that the Iraqi's want us to stay. I told him, "your son is in the green zone".

But, I have a feeling Bush is going to make Malaki an offer he can't refuse.

I hope Exxon gets thrown out too. And I hope we Nationalize our oil like Venuezuela did. Screw the oil companies.

And while we are at it, abolish the Federal Reserve. Those are rich men that own our country. They control the money, so they control EVERYTHING.

And break up the media. It has been taken over by neocons. Time for truth to come back to the news.

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[Jeepers]

Why doesnt the CIA just take out Nuri al-Maliki... He is basically saying that he wants Obama to win...

 

[007]

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Set the terms, then set the dates, then get the fuck otta there.

 

[editec]

What I hate is that the people we argue with will just pretend to forget they were dead wrong about "Iraqi's wanting us to stay", and they'll swallow the next lie that Rush feeds them.

Just like the mission changed a million times.

Now I don't even care or believe that we are succeeding in Iraq. They lied about that so many times.

And the surge was meant to lower violence enough that they could make politicial reconciliation. So don't tell us General Betrayus that the surge worked, because there still is NO POLITICIAL RECONCILIATION.

Oops. Did I say Betrayus? I meant Petrayus. Obama, osama. You know. LOL.

You ever read 1984, dude?

Don't bother... you're living it.

We have always been at war with Oceania​

 

[AllieBaba]

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did you read what he wrote? he didnt say we should be attacked or that terrorists are nice people.

i have a question. can you be critical of someone or something, even if you love them or it? youre talking like america is purely a victim, while that doesnt seem to be the case.

take a deep breath and calm down. lets get back to an intelligent discussion instead of name calling.

Yes, I read it and my tolerance ends when anybody starts to list the "reasons" terrorists hate us.

They hate us because they're intolerant, because they're tyrannical, because they're fascists, and because they have no sense of the dignity of human life or human rights. The rest is just bs propaganda spewed by anti-American POSes.

And yes it's fine to be critical, so long as you're equally critical of the people who WANT TO KILL US. I don't see that. It's ok to be criticial so long as you aren't demoralizing Americans and boosting the morals of the people we are at war with.

Finally, consistency isn't something you're likely to see any time soon. The consistency we had with Reagan died with him, and I don't see it coming back. For consistency you have to have actual leaders who don't hover over poll results and think that every time someone is displeased, they must pander.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, I read it and my tolerance ends when anybody starts to list the "reasons" terrorists hate us.

They hate us because they're intolerant, because they're tyrannical, because they're fascists, and because they have no sense of the dignity of human life or human rights. The rest is just bs propaganda spewed by anti-American POSes.

So you won't even listen when the rest of the world says Bush and America is out of line? That's scary. And I'm sure Hitler didn't let international news into Germany, just like you don't know what the rest of the world thinks of our invasion of Iraq.

And it is strange, because it seems to me that Bush is the one that is intolerant, tyrannical, fascist and has no sense of dignity of human life.

Dick Chaney and Rummy said back when HW Bush was in office that going into Bagdad would be a Quagmire and cause heavy casualties and cost a fortune. Fast forward to 2002, and they said they couldn't have imagined it was going to be so difficult. So you should know you are being lied to because it's a fact.

I lost track. How many lies does that make?

I'm sure Germans back in the 30's and 40's loved their country right or wrong

And, you do remember that people in England considered Washington and John Adams and Ben Franklin terrorists, right? That's the propoganda England put out to their citizens. And I'm sure English citizens loved England, right or wrong. Was England suppressing America or was Washington a terrorist? I guess it depends on which side you are on.

And I'm sure the King of England had zero tolerance or sympathy for any citizen that suggested he was a tyrant. I'm sure back then, England could do no wrong?

I imagine you wearing one of those British wigs screaming at anyone who would dare suggest England did ANYTHING wrong.

You ready to follow Bush into WW3? What if he asked you to pay $30,000 and gas would go up to $10 a gallon? What the fuck would your broke ass do?

You are brainwashed!!!!

Bush is about as bad as Hitler. He will go down in history as one of our worst presidents. And around the world, you can put him in the same category as a tyrant.

 

[AllieBaba]

Yeah. Bush is as bad as Hitler.

Yet more evidence that the left doesn't distinguish between evil and good, right and wrong, and would not recognize a human right if it sat on their faces and wiggled.