Iran Strikes Israel With Missiles In Retaliation To Israel Striking Lebanon

[AnOrangeCat]

Iran proposed a peace deal that was rejected.

Right, partially because they weren't going to stop their proxies from attacking Israel. How can there be peace if Iran's still attacking Israel using Islamists in Lebanon and Gaza?

What else can they do? Every time they almost reach some tentative plan, here comes the bloodthirsty mob from Israel stirring the pot. They're such an incorrigible and disgusting lot.

The bloodthirsty mobs are from Gaza and Lebanon, not Israel.

It's inversion to accuse Israel of being bloodthirsty when Hezbollah is launching rockets at civilians.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Apparently -- considering the fact that only Israeli bombs are killing women and kids.

Who told you that?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Hahahahahahaha. Tell that to the 100,000 kids and women murdered in Gaza and the more than 4000 killed in Lebanon.

Who told you that many people have died?

According to Hamas, 70,000 people died in Gaza and half of them were Hamas. Also, they count anyone under 18 as a child knowing that many of those aged 14-18 are used by Hamas as child soldiers.

Hamas uses child soldiers and has for a while now. The youngest 10/7 terrorist who accompanied Hamas on their kibbutz rampage was just 10 years old.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Yeah ... that's why they keep pushing their way into someone else's land (in the name of the Greater Israel Project). I guess if that's what you call "defense."

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, WTF are you talking about?

Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt in 1979, WTF are you talking about?

Israel pushes their way into land in order to push themselves out? Huh?

When have Arabs ever initiated peace by exchanging territory? Other than Egypt and Jordan?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Israel elbowed their way into someone else's land in 1948.

Nope.

The UN partition would have created a 53/47 Jewish state in Israel and a 90/10 Arab state in Jordan.

Arabs rejected that and five Arab armies invaded Israel, only to lose to a bunch of Holocaust survivors they outnumbered 2:1.

Arabs were elbowing their way into Jewish land, driving 30,000 Jews out of Judea, Samaria, and East Jerusalem where they had lived for 3,000 years.

Is that not ethnic cleansing?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Yes, it always comes down to this. You support Hezbollah and Hamas unconditionally because they are the "righteous" ones with bullets and rockets and are therefore not restricted by morality and law.

Using human shields is a war crime that Arabs never get disciplined for.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Except iran literally started shooting directly at them first.

Very true and why I have no problem with what the IDF is doing.

 

[Kruska]

The UN partition would have created a 53/47 Jewish state in Israel and a 90/10 Arab state in Jordan.

The UN partition-plan of November 1947 has NOTHING to do with Jordan - since the latter already received independence from Britain in May 1946. You are spreading the typical Zionist bull.

As for 53/47 - why should the NATIVE population accept giving 53% of their land to illegal Foreigners who additionally only constituted 35% of the total population??

 

[AnOrangeCat]

The UN partition-plan of November 1947 has NOTHING to do with Jordan - since the latter already received independence from Britain in May 1946. You are spreading the typical Zionist bull.

As for 53/47 - why should the NATIVE population accept giving 53% of their land to illegal Foreigners who additionally only constituted 35% of the total population??

What I'm saying is that Jews were willing to accept only a slight majority in their own country for the sake of peace.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

The UN partition-plan of November 1947 has NOTHING to do with Jordan - since the latter already received independence from Britain in May 1946. You are spreading the typical Zionist bull.

As for 53/47 - why should the NATIVE population accept giving 53% of their land to illegal Foreigners who additionally only constituted 35% of the total population??

How does this reconcile with the fact that Israel made 150,000-175,000 Arabs citizens during the war in 1948?

Doesn't that blow a giant hole through the myth of the Nakba?

Why would Israel want to get rid of all Arabs but make them citizens at the same time? Does that make sense to you?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

It's just a matter of tonnes or quantity - aka $$ and supplies.

Palestinians have been receiving US taxpayer support since UNRWA was created in 1949, longer than the US has been supporting Israel.

Whilst Hamas rockets or bomb devices kill maybe 10 civilians in a year - Israels missiles and bombs kill thousands.

Hamas killed 1250 Jews in a matter of hours on 10/7 and then dragged another 250 into Gaza as hostages.

Every single Gazan came out to lynch those Jews.

Every. Single. One.

And in the 2 years those hostages were there, not one Palestinian did anything to free them. Even in Nazi Germany, there were Germans who risked their lives to get Jews to safety. No such people exist in Gaza.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Very true and why I have no problem with what the IDF is doing.

They can pound hell put of Iran. We just need to not be involved. This shit will never end.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

The UN partition-plan of November 1947 has NOTHING to do with Jordan - since the latter already received independence from Britain in May 1946. You are spreading the typical Zionist bull.

Wasn't Jordan one of the countries that invaded Israel in 1948?

 

[Kruska]

What I'm saying is that Jews were willing to accept only a slight majority in their own country for the sake of peace.

British Palestine was NOT "their" own country in 1947 - it was the lands of the native population, that constituted of 1.2 million Muslims & Christians, and around 35,000 native Jews. To that plus 120,000 legal Jewish settlers from Europe since 1917 to 1938 and around 500.000 Illegal immigrants from 1946-1948 from Europe.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Wasn't Jordan one of the countries that invaded Israel in 1948?

Jordan and Israel have been allies for multiple decades at this point. Syria and the PLO gave them common enemies.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Jordan and Israel have been allies for multiple decades at this point.

Yes, of course. But not until 1994.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes, of course. But not until 1994.

Much earlier. Israel used aircraft to to threaten Syria when Syria was threatening Jordan.

 

[Shusha]

British Palestine was NOT "their" own country in 1947 - it was the lands of the native population, that constituted of 1.2 million Muslims & Christians, and around 35,000 native Jews. To that plus 120,000 legal Jewish settlers from Europe since 1917 to 1938 and around 500.000 Illegal immigrants from 1946-1948 from Europe.

The native population included both Arabs and Jews. One of the reasons for emerging law of self-determination at the time was to protect the rights of minority populations - that they too would have self-determination as indigenous peoples.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

British Palestine was NOT "their" own country in 1947

Hebron had a 3,000 year old Jewish community that was completely cleansed out in 1948. There were 30,000 Jews living in Judea and Samaria and E Jerusalem, all of whom were kicked out by Jordan.

Is that not ethnic cleansing?

What's your excuse for that?

- it was the lands of the native population, that constituted of 1.2 million Muslims & Christians, and around 35,000 native Jews

Maybe in the entire mandate, but at the time of Israel's independence, there were only 350,000 Arabs living in what would become Israel and 175,000 of them became Israeli citizens.

Why would Israel make Arabs citizens if they wanted to drive Arabs out? Does that make sense to you? If so, you might have brain damage.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Much earlier. Israel used aircraft to to threaten Syria when Syria was threatening Jordan.

Wasn't that in the 2000's?