Instead of whining about a "popular vote" divide CA & NY electoral votes by district

Should Barbara Boxer submit a proposal for CA & NY to assign electoral votes by district?

  • Yes - it would make many rural districts toss-ups

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • No - we want all the political advantage we can get

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
    5

kyzr

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Barb Boxer wants to replace the electoral college by using the popular vote, that is DOA. Instead, she should consider the Nebraska way of assigning electoral college votes by district such that there will be many districts in CA & NY that will be contested instead of assigned to the dems.
 
It would serve the Dems right were they to abolish the Electorial College in favor of the popular vote and then turn right around and lose the popular vote next election.
 
Barb Boxer wants to replace the electoral college by using the popular vote, that is DOA. Instead, she should consider the Nebraska way of assigning electoral college votes by district such that there will be many districts in CA & NY that will be contested instead of assigned to the dems.

I mean, I don't think it should happen, but not for the reason in the poll. Why mess with it? Trump just won the electoral college decisively, so why should we bother switching all that up? Too much work and wasted resources for no good gain.
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.

How in the heck does deciding the election by congressional district have ANY relation to Barbara's request to decide it by popular vote????

If anything deciding by congressional district would produce a result that's even WORSE from the people's vote.
 
Good idea, but Boxer will never go for it. Conservative & military town San Diego and predominantly conservative Los Angeles and outlying areas heavily populated with hispanic catholics and the interior regions would give about 5/8s of those electoral votes to republicans.

Nope, Boxer would never sign off on that.
 
I can't believe how stupid people are when they bitch and moan about the popular vote in this election. If it was based on popular vote then the outcome would change as voters would less likely waste votes on third parties and write ins, plus ads and rallys would shift and exist in areas formerly thought lost causes. Furthermore some of the illegal tactics the DNC used would have a more serious issue in the election and cheating would be elevated by them as easier to cheat the election would exist.

If they only had a brain, but then again kids having hissy fits never stop to think if their outburst is warranted or rational, it's all emotions instead.
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.

How in the heck does deciding the election by congressional district have ANY relation to Barbara's request to decide it by popular vote????

If anything deciding by congressional district would produce a result that's even WORSE from the people's vote.

What part of "the popular vote" will never happen, don't you understand? NEVER. The small states would never approve. Think hard about what I'm saying here, if Boxer wants to give more parts of CA that are toss-ups an active part in the political process instead of being ignored and thrown to the democrats, she should give electors by district like Nebraska.
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.

How in the heck does deciding the election by congressional district have ANY relation to Barbara's request to decide it by popular vote????

If anything deciding by congressional district would produce a result that's even WORSE from the people's vote.

It would give people in Orange and Riverside counties a VOICE in elections, which they currently have NONE in. The leftists in Los Angeles and San Francisco rule the state with an iron fist.Silicone Valley Billionaires buy elections openly (yes, I men YOU Zuckerberg, you corrupt pile of shit.)

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Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.

How in the heck does deciding the election by congressional district have ANY relation to Barbara's request to decide it by popular vote????

If anything deciding by congressional district would produce a result that's even WORSE from the people's vote.

What part of "the popular vote" will never happen, don't you understand? NEVER. The small states would never approve. Think hard about what I'm saying here, if Boxer wants to give more parts of CA that are toss-ups an active part in the political process instead of being ignored and thrown to the democrats, she should give electors by district like Nebraska.

The NPVIC has passed in smaller state legislatures all the time, it even got ratified in Vermont, Rhode Island, and DC. It's passed in the Arkansas House twice.

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

The electoral college doesn't actually help small states....it helps swings states, a lot of which are really big states like Florida and Pennsylvania.
 
Assigning EV's by congressional district is even WORSE because it falls prey to gerrymandered maps.

....Ignoring the obvious troll of only doing this for NY and CA....

The OP is not a "troll", more like attempted sarcasm of Boxer throwing a "Hail Mary" that has a less than zero chance of happening. If she has true altruistic reasons for wanting the "popular vote" she should opt for the apportionment of electoral college votes by district of her state, which is a slam dunk to make happen.

How in the heck does deciding the election by congressional district have ANY relation to Barbara's request to decide it by popular vote????

If anything deciding by congressional district would produce a result that's even WORSE from the people's vote.

What part of "the popular vote" will never happen, don't you understand? NEVER. The small states would never approve. Think hard about what I'm saying here, if Boxer wants to give more parts of CA that are toss-ups an active part in the political process instead of being ignored and thrown to the democrats, she should give electors by district like Nebraska.

The NPVIC has passed in smaller state legislatures all the time, it even got ratified in Vermont, Rhode Island, and DC. It's passed in the Arkansas House twice.

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

The electoral college doesn't actually help small states....it helps swings states, a lot of which are really big states like Florida and Pennsylvania.

The NPVIC is the only way to get Electoral Votes based on the overall popular vote. An Amendment to the Constitution just won't happen. Arkansas is a red state so your assertion is bullshit. Tell Boxer to get busy getting states to adopt the NPVIC.
 
Do a study of that, people, and you will find that the final EV is very close to the way it is done now.
 
Arkansas is a red state so your assertion is bullshit. .

What?
What?

Arkansas is in the Trump column in 2016, i.e. a "red state". If Arkansas was a NPVIC state it would be blue, i.e. a blue state since H won the national popular vote. Therefore the NPVIC assertion is total bullshit..

So what? The states that pass it are doing it out of morality...not partisan interests.
 

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