‘Independents’ and ‘moderates’…..what about Trump kept you from voting for and or supporting him?

The point I made was about the scale of the issue at the time(s). Under TRump, the issue grew to a point where it was part of the national Conventional Wisdom. Which, as was teh point, is evidence of a more secure border. And him at least making a good faith attempt at a campaign promise.


Which, is the most any supporter of any candidate can hope for.

Just because there are a lot of people like you that take it as feel good gospel doesn't mean it's fact.

You've said there were not shortages of farm labor before.

I asked you for evidence. You have none and I've provided a directly contradicting example of labor shortages in 2015.

If you were me, would you believe you?
 
Just because there are a lot of people like you that take it as feel good gospel doesn't mean it's fact.

You've said there were not shortages of farm labor before.

I asked you for evidence. You have none and I've provided a directly contradicting example of labor shortages in 2015.

If you were me, would you believe you?


If I was you, I would kill myself. NOt really, but I would certainly try to become a better person.
 
Which of his policies turned you off? What would you have liked to have seen him do differently?
I ask because I have asked this here before and most refuse to participate…I wonder why?
Some of his policies were ok. He spent like a drunken leftist and he supported amnesty though. Which are BIG turn offs.
He is also the most childish older man i have ever seen. He isnt well spoken, a complete asshole, disloyal, emotional, liar etc.
 
If I was you, I would kill myself. NOt really, but I would certainly try to become a better person.
Bad person bashing you too hard with facts and reason?

Nothing in your little "nice" head to respond with except scuicide fantasies?

Oh you poor poor snowflake. :itsok:
 
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Some of his policies were ok. He spent like a drunken leftist and he supported amnesty though. Which are BIG turn offs.
I’m not sure fiscally responsible government is ever coming back. Sadly, there’s just not enough support there anyone…Americans have been conditioned and programmed to expect and embrace debt.
I hope his “amnesty” bullshit was all just part of a weird game of cat and mouse with Chuck and Nasty Beloni.

He is also the most childish older man i have ever seen. He isnt well spoken, a complete asshole, disloyal, emotional, liar etc.
I agree….but I never look to be mentored by our POTUS. I need to see effective policies that yield positive gains for good Americans.
 
I consider myself a right leaning independent. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Didn't vote for Hillary either. I did vote for Trump in 2020 because I was afraid the rabid left would destroy our country with socialism, wokeness, and political correctness. Turns out I was right about that. I don't really want to vote for Trump in 2024 because I think he will be more interested in revenge than it running the country and I'm also afraid that given the revolving door he had last time and additional others since then who just don't want any part of him, he will find it almost impossible to find people to work under him, especially when that revolving door will be turning even faster.

Biden won in 2020 because people falsely believed that he would try uniting the country. While Biden has done nothing of the sort, most Americans still want the country united and I don't think Trump is the man for that job, given that I believe he will use his power to seek revenge instead of uniting, not that he doesn't deserve revenge. But, it is not what is best for the country.
Revenge would be sweet. I'd vote for that.
 
I consider myself a right leaning independent. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Didn't vote for Hillary either. I did vote for Trump in 2020 because I was afraid the rabid left would destroy our country with socialism, wokeness, and political correctness. Turns out I was right about that. I don't really want to vote for Trump in 2024 because I think he will be more interested in revenge than it running the country and I'm also afraid that given the revolving door he had last time and additional others since then who just don't want any part of him, he will find it almost impossible to find people to work under him, especially when that revolving door will be turning even faster.

Biden won in 2020 because people falsely believed that he would try uniting the country. While Biden has done nothing of the sort, most Americans still want the country united and I don't think Trump is the man for that job, given that I believe he will use his power to seek revenge instead of uniting, not that he doesn't deserve revenge. But, it is not what is best for the country.


The opposition to Trump was fired by the Left's shock and dismay that working class whites, especially working class white men, should be given any voice in natinional affairs.

If Trump runs and is defeated, taht will VALIDATE the idea that we are forever MARGINALIZED.
 

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